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One thing that always bugged me is that Vegito had a "double voice" like Gotenks, but Kobito Kai did not when fused using the same method.
 
The Jeffinator said:
One thing that always bugged me is that Vegito had a "double voice" like Gotenks, but Kobito Kai did not when fused using the same method.
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That's a goof. Vegetto isn't supposed to have a double voice. He doesn't in the Japanese as I recall either. Also like a lot of things the spelling doesn't really matter since we're American but it's definitely supposed to be Vegetto because it's a fusion of the names Vegeta and Kakarotto but in English Kakarotto got shortened to Kakarot which would have made the fusion named Vegetot and. . .that just looked ugly so they hoped like hell the English audience would never figure it out.

Also "like watching a tiger maul a ballet dancer" that is definitely a phrase I'm gonna have to remember for future reference. Also it was supposed to be implied that Star might have been able to go all Black Canary and basically hold him off until either Star got tired or Superboy got lucky but he's got a lot of things, but a lack of self confidence ain't one.

Dear God, love Tigress.
 
The interesting part is that means Vegeta must be the dominant personality and not just the lucky one who got his name put in front. Because Goku does not go by Kakkarot, so dominant Vegeta must have basically gone "Bitch we're Saiyan, we ain't usin no stupid Earth name!"
 
Either that or Vegeta just brought out Goku's Saiyan pride, lol. What I wonder is if someone can be fused more than once or if the earrings can make temporary fusions permanent. Like what if Gogeta and adult Gotenks used them to fuse together? Or if Goku and Vegeta used the earrings, then Goten and Trunks used them, then the two fused forms use them to join together. That would be one badass mofo.
 
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Presumably the temporary fusion would break and override the earrings. It's hard to know for sure.
 
Even if for only 30 minutes, that would be a badass warrior. And then imagine if all four of them could go Super Saiyan God? This new ultimate warrior would be even stronger than Bills-sama, lol.
 
The problem being even counting the movies there aren't enough Saiyans PERIOD to do that. The most there have ever been were something like eight I believe.

  1. Raditz
  2. Nappa
  3. Turles
  4. Vegeta
  5. Tarble
  6. Broly
  7. Paragus
  8. Gohan
  9. Gotten
  10. Pan
  11. Bra
  12. Trunks

Sorry 12, but since it takes 6+1 they still need two more to get two gods.

Also that legend was bullshit, Toriyama really needs to nail down the Saiyan History cus that shit is bananas.
 
You forgot Bardock and King Vegeta and all the Saiyans of the past. And Goku could go God at will after tasting the power. So, if we say the others can do the same, they would just have to go in a circle, each one taking a turn being the one to accept the power.

Also, just read the IC, and when I get home in the morning I have an idea for Nightwing to come to Tigress' aid. It involves a grappling line and a certain Kryptonian hybrid tripping and falling on his face and then getting even angrier :).
 
Well, I'm off to start my audit and then boil eggs, whip up some waffle batter, and stock the breakfast room. All 118 rooms are sold out yet again -- gotta love busy season. This means I have a lot more paperwork and have to make more stuff for the breakfast.
 
The Jeffinator said:
You forgot Bardock and King Vegeta and all the Saiyans of the past. And Goku could go God at will after tasting the power. So, if we say the others can do the same, they would just have to go in a circle, each one taking a turn being the one to accept the power.

Also, just read the IC, and when I get home in the morning I have an idea for Nightwing to come to Tigress' aid. It involves a grappling line and a certain Kryptonian hybrid tripping and falling on his face and then getting even angrier :).
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I left off anybody who was dead prior to the beginning of Z. And he couldn't go God, just apparently knowing that it's possible let him achieve that power again which. . .is retarded as all fuck. I hate SSG so fucking much.

Go for it, I think we've got Nightwing, Beastboy and Miss Martian to go.
 
My biggest issue with SSG was the appearance. SS4 Gogeta would have been a kick-ass appearance for SSG, lol. And SS4 should have had golden fur and hair, not red fur, lol. But, SS4 wasn't part of Toriyama's continuity, and he considers GT and the movies -- except Battle of Gods -- to be non-canon, as do many hardcore fans of the manga.
 
The Jeffinator said:
My biggest issue with SSG was the appearance. SS4 Gogeta would have been a kick-ass appearance for SSG, lol. And SS4 should have had golden fur and hair, not red fur, lol. But, SS4 wasn't part of Toriyama's continuity, and he considers GT and the movies -- except Battle of Gods -- to be non-canon, as do many hardcore fans of the manga.
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I just hate SSG from top to bottom. The baby counts as a Saiyan? Fuck you. I still hate that Gotten and Trunks can go super. As far as looks go it wasn't bad.

Toriyama goes back and forth a lot on if he approved or not of GT though.

As for the movies I wish he'd give us a list of what is or isn't cannon since it's not just Battle of the Gods. At the very least Bardock: Father of Goku, History of Trunks and the 2008 special are all cannon. We know the goofy 2008 special is cannon because when Goku is trying to go SSG they specifically ask "What about Vegeta's brother Tarble?" (I don't recall the specific line) but he's from a "movie" (I know they make a distinction between specials and movies but I've never honestly figured out how you're supposed to know outside going to wikipedia.)
 
The movie Dead Zone had connections to the Garlic Jr. saga, but that was entirely filler content and never occurred in the manga. Just like everything from like episode 140-150 to 220 of Naruto was pure filler. And one thing that does make the DB stuff harder to follow is the fuck-ups in translation. Like during the first run of the Android Saga, Roshi told Marron, "If General Tao was the heart of the Red Ribbon Army, Doctor Gero was the brains." But Tao was a mercenary hired by the RR, which they eventually corrected when they dubbed DB. But in the nine days before the Cell Games, Goku calls him General Tao. And one time Bulma also claims to have known Goku since he was five years old.
 
At the risk of opening up a new can of worms, I have another idea for something Steel could do to weaken or slow down Superboy that's not red-sun related.

During the Grant Morrison "JLA" arc "Crisis Times Five," a newly-repowered hero-turned-villain named Triumph attacked The Watchtower. In the process, he used his vast electromagnetic abilities to rip the solar energy out of Superman's cells.

Given that Steel's just used Lucy to harness and throw lightning at The Sins, it's not so huge a leap that she could use Lucy's EM powers for the same purpose on The Boy-- conduct his solar energy out of his body and either throw it back at him as lightning-- possibly even specifically tuned to penetrate The Boy's Kryptonian bioelectric force-aura-- or throw it at the returning Sins instead.

Thoughts?
 
ChasNicollette said:
At the risk of opening up a new can of worms, I have another idea for something Steel could do to weaken or slow down Superboy that's not red-sun related.

During the Grant Morrison "JLA" arc "Crisis Times Five," a newly-repowered hero-turned-villain named Triumph attacked The Watchtower. In the process, he used his vast electromagnetic abilities to rip the solar energy out of Superman's cells.

Given that Steel's just used Lucy to harness and throw lightning at The Sins, it's not so huge a leap that she could use Lucy's EM powers for the same purpose on The Boy-- conduct his solar energy out of his body and either throw it back at him as lightning-- possibly even specifically tuned to penetrate The Boy's Kryptonian bioelectric force-aura-- or throw it at the returning Sins instead.

Thoughts?
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Yeah, that could work. Her HUD could show his aura and when he hit her, the AI probably could have measured the force and was able to read the solar energy stored within him or something. Her attack could have a double effect -- absorbing his stored energy while also damaging him enough that whatever energy she doesn't absorb immediately depletes itself in an attempt to heal him. This will pretty much bring him to his knees, since he has no source to recharge where he is. He may still have a little energy left over when it's done, but at that point he won't be a huge threat to the team anymore on his own, though that's when the Sins will likely show back up, haha. Thank you for considering an alternative to the red sunlight idea :).
 
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Just a short post. But I can totally see Superboy with his fists over his head, about to crush Nightwing, when suddenly a green rhino sends him flying down the hall, hahahaha.
 
The Jeffinator said:
Just a short post. But I can totally see Superboy with his fists over his head, about to crush Nightwing, when suddenly a green rhino sends him flying down the hall, hahahaha.
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One rhino...on scene in the nick of time...hehehe ;)
 
The Jeffinator said:
The movie Dead Zone had connections to the Garlic Jr. saga, but that was entirely filler content and never occurred in the manga. Just like everything from like episode 140-150 to 220 of Naruto was pure filler. And one thing that does make the DB stuff harder to follow is the fuck-ups in translation. Like during the first run of the Android Saga, Roshi told Marron, "If General Tao was the heart of the Red Ribbon Army, Doctor Gero was the brains." But Tao was a mercenary hired by the RR, which they eventually corrected when they dubbed DB. But in the nine days before the Cell Games, Goku calls him General Tao. And one time Bulma also claims to have known Goku since he was five years old.
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I find that in many cases the translators unfucked something that the original japanese fucked up. A great case is the Cell Saga where Cell points out he can regenerate as long as a certain lump of cells in his head survives he'll come back. In the English translation they goofed and changed it to a single cell. Only since Goku blew everything north of Cell's waist off clearly Akira didn't know how his own creation worked and the translaters unfucked him.

A few more of the mistranslations are more funny than distracting like when Goku calls a Special Beam Cannon a Galic gun once.
 
Sean Renaud said:
I find that in many cases the translators unfucked something that the original japanese fucked up. A great case is the Cell Saga where Cell points out he can regenerate as long as a certain lump of cells in his head survives he'll come back. In the English translation they goofed and changed it to a single cell. Only since Goku blew everything north of Cell's waist off clearly Akira didn't know how his own creation worked and the translaters unfucked him.

A few more of the mistranslations are more funny than distracting like when Goku calls a Special Beam Cannon a Galic gun once.
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But Cell didn't know he could regenerate from a single cell -- he was just as surprised as the others when he came back after blowing himself up.
 
The Jeffinator said:
But Cell didn't know he could regenerate from a single cell -- he was just as surprised as the others when he came back after blowing himself up.
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He was surprised, but once it happened he understood how it happened. It wasn't "I have no idea how I'm here." It was "What the fuck. . .oh my god that's AWESOME!"
 
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