….pick up younger woman at a bar, what makes older men attractive to younger woman

[Booboobear84]

While I would trust women's advice on this, I wouldn't trust (or distrust) a woman's advice because there is a broad spectrum of women with different tastes and motivations: single point of advice reflects her experience. At the very least one should have a woman explain why she feels that way.

I remember watching a matchmaking show, the professional matchmaker is talking with a colleague, and says I HATE WHEN A GUY ASKS PERMISSION FOR A KISS. The implication being, to me, he's supposed to know, and be alpha enough to take it. I'm sure some women think exactly that and many women want more communication and few might still be old fashioned enough to think the man gallant for asking.

 

[Booboobear84]

I understand what everyone means by "friend-zone" in this thread, and I think it serves its purpose, but for what it's worth, it's not used by Gen Z. To them, Facebook doesn't exist.

Friend zone existed before the internet (sad personal experience). It wouldn't bother me except it was usually for a more exciting guy who typically treat women like shit. I hated being the guy everyone's mom thought they should date and none of them wanted to.

 

[JBoy1952]

Oh what do you know, he is actually a troll or an incel! PLEASE block me, as I know you'll be sad the rest of your life being an asshole!

This male knows from his own experience that the best advice a male can get regarding sexuality comes from the female. I believe there would be a lot more happy men if the macho-men rethink their attitudes about sex and making the female happy.

 

[AnnyMouse28]

Honestly for the most part age is just a number. But I do have a "rule" that I won't date anyone olde enough to be my father or young enough to be my father. So that puts my age range at 15 years youngers and 20 years older. But in reality I think +/- 10 years in more realistic.

 

[JBoy1952]

….pick up younger woman at a bar, what makes older men attractive to younger woman​

I guess I've never really provided my "answer" to the question posed in this thread. So I will now. 1st, I don't have actual experience at "pick up younger women". I've never tried the clear "pick up" approach as I interpret it.

When being unattached but wanting the possible sexual interaction time from women when at a bar, I've NEVER treated women as a "pick up". I've seen enough macho-men exude that approach and end up leaving holding a very limp dick. Treat any woman, no matter what the age, like you'd like to be treated. Lose the "pick up" attitude that women see through. I believe there can be no younger women attraction when your approach method involves sex.

Next, not all women at bars are there to find sex.
Have I gone home with "younger" women from a bar as an "older man"? Yes, but the women have rarely been more than 10 years younger. Only one time, about 20 years ago, did I have sexual contact with a female greatly younger than me. I was about 52 and she was 18--but it wasn't from a bar, it was at a party.. But she came on to me. Why? She told me. She wanted to experience an older man with anticipated sexual experience that could maybe satisfy her because she couldn't get it from the juvenile attitudes of the boys/men near her age that only cared about their own sexual gratification.

 

[JBoy1952]

See, here’s the thing. If you want to learn something, and you think you need help, ask someone who has actually been successful doing that thing.

Lots of people who have never done it will have opinions that seem valid and sensible to them. But actual experience often proves to be different than just talking about it.

So… how many of these women who know so much have actually picked up a (straight) woman in a bar? Probably none. The total of their knowledge is what they THINK might work on them.

And how many of them would even admit to being the kind of woman who lets herself get picked up? Not many, given that they think it works the way they think it should… instead of how it works.

“If I asked people what they wanted, they’d have said faster horses.” Henry Ford

Is it....kinked? or kicked?
You ask "So… how many of these women who know so much have actually picked up a (straight) woman in a bar? Probably none. The total of their knowledge is what they THINK might work on them."

And when the number of women who "THINK might work on them" (as you say) mounts and overwhelmingly outnumbers those who THINK like YOU DO, who will REAL MEN believe?

Take a statistics class. Learn.

Yes, I know. I'm a HOOT.

 

[littlecordelera]

And how many of them would even admit to being the kind of woman who lets herself get picked up? Not many, given that they think it works the way they think it should… instead of how it works.

Hello.

I've never been monogamous and have never had any intention to. My husband knew this before we got married.

 

[v_indigo]

If you think the number of women who answer this thread is an overwhelming number, you’re even dumber than I thought… and that’s not easy.

I’m going to bin you now because I’m sure you’ll never say anything worth reading. Goodbye.

Incel/PUA/misogynist thinking someone else has nothing worth saying?
I AM AGHAST!

 

[v_indigo]

I’ve grown bored with you people. The women on this thread are making the mistake of thinking their own supposed preferences are universal… and the men here make the mistake of sucking up to them in hopes of a pat on the head.

Why not take your beliefs out into the world and see how they pan out.

Don’t bother responding. I understand you well enough already. There won’t be any more replies.

Goodbye.

My tears will never end.

 

[Noor]

While I would trust women's advice on this, I wouldn't trust (or distrust) a woman's advice because there is a broad spectrum of women with different tastes and motivations: single point of advice reflects her experience. At the very least one should have a woman explain why she feels that way.

I remember watching a matchmaking show, the professional matchmaker is talking with a colleague, and says I HATE WHEN A GUY ASKS PERMISSION FOR A KISS. The implication being, to me, he's supposed to know, and be alpha enough to take it. I'm sure some women think exactly that and many women want more communication and few might still be old fashioned enough to think the man gallant for asking.

I’m more likely to kiss a guy or at least not take off running if he asked first.

 

[JBoy1952]

If you think the number of women who answer this thread is an overwhelming number, you’re even dumber than I thought… and that’s not easy.

I’m going to bin you now because I’m sure you’ll never say anything worth reading. Goodbye.

"If you think the number of women who answer this thread is an overwhelming number,..."

You're reading comprehension level makes you look dumb. I never said a thing about "the number of women WHO ANSWER THIS THREAD.

Think more before you speak. Otherwise, I could care less what you do. Kink yourself to your hearts delight because I seriously doubt you have the love and respect of women in your head.

 

[lovecraft68]

Answer is don't be a loser like all the guys here giving 'advice' all of which paint young women as gold diggers while ignoring the fact you're middle aged men trying to pick up young girls, but that's not a problem, that's your right as being "men"

Know why so many guys go for young women? Because they can't in anyway satisfy a woman their age so they go look for young girls thinking they don't really know what it is yet, so maybe I can impress them.

 

[Cardinal]

Not true, friend. Gotta stay hopeful. Another music quote, different genre, spoken by the man to the lady: “You got the money, honey, I got the time.” Probably won't work, but it's a nice thought.

Quoting Willie to make the point about older men and younger women?
That’s a good one, fat wallet, but not sure Willie is what younger women think about when thinking about older men

 

[Cardinal]

I’m not sure these assumptions are accurate, I’m mid 50s, average looks and body type, have money, drive a luxury vehicle, member of a country club, wear custom clothes, and I don’t get younger women, or any women actually, to come on to me. I’m in fine restaurants and bars often, I’ve never had a woman come on to me. It’s just not something that happens.

 

[ColinPiper]

I’m not sure these assumptions are accurate, I’m mid 50s, average looks and body type, have money, drive a luxury vehicle, member of a country club, wear custom clothes, and I don’t get younger women, or any women actually, to come on to me. I’m in fine restaurants and bars often, I’ve never had a woman come on to me. It’s just not something that happens.

Occasionally I see women who may be "plain" or average in terms of what they were given in looks, but they really put an effort in to make the most of what they have. I'm talking about clothes, makeup, hair, and making an effort to be outgoing and interested in other people. Rather than think they're fake, I find that admirable, and I have to say attractive.

If you want to attract women and you have what you believe to be the qualities that would attract them, albeit at an older age, I feel you have to project confidence. Let everyone know you're a good catch with your looks, clothes (appropriate for the occasion), body language, and so on. It's useful to know some short funny stories that you could cue off a remark someone makes. It may feel like an act to begin with, but you could grow into it, if that's what you want. And you don't have to be a sleaze, just be confident and act genuinely interested in what other people's lives are like. You may find you're giving an impression of "well, there's no way this guy is single". Just a thought, and of course you probably don't need my advice - I'm just thinking in terms of myself in a kinda similar situation and waiting for the new job to kick in with an improvement to my financial situation. Good luck

 

[stickygirl]

I don't think being an attractive man is something you can learn from any source: you've either got it or you haven't. Shower, wear clothes that suit your age and take an interest in other people's lives, not their bodies.

Women are seldom heard, so listen. Older men, with their confidence and life experience have plenty to offer but yes, we do know you've got a dick. We've had men hitting on us since we were 13yrs old - we've got that message.

 

[AnnyMouse28]

I’m not sure these assumptions are accurate, I’m mid 50s, average looks and body type, have money, drive a luxury vehicle, member of a country club, wear custom clothes, and I don’t get younger women, or any women actually, to come on to me. I’m in fine restaurants and bars often, I’ve never had a woman come on to me. It’s just not something that happens.

Want a younger woman hang out where they do. Dive bars. Most 30-somethings aren’t hanging out I. Upscale restaurants and bars.

 

[IrisAlthea]

I don't think being an attractive man is something you can learn from any source: you've either got it or you haven't. Shower, wear clothes that suit your age and take an interest in other people's lives, not their bodies.

I think the makeup-, fitness and fashion industries, the womens magazines, hair stylists and a bunch of social media influencers seem to be doing reasonably well.

Do you mean that people spending money on things like that are doing so without getting anything out of it?

 

[morelikeasong]

Want a younger woman hang out where they do. Dive bars. Most 30-somethings aren’t hanging out I. Upscale restaurants and bars.

THIS! I’ve flirted with (or more) many older men in my favorite dive bar. Loved when they would tell the bartender to put me on their tab. Loved when they’d seem to take a genuine interest in me. Hated when they’d get too drunk and seem sloppy. Hated when they felt entitled to grope me just because they’d bought me a $5 drink.

 

[stickygirl]

I think the makeup-, fitness and fashion industries, the womens magazines, hair stylists and a bunch of social media influencers seem to be doing reasonably well.

Do you mean that people spending money on things like that are doing so without getting anything out of it?

Of course! Isn't that a given?!
Hang on - are you being ironic? Sorry I'm always slow at this!

 

[sicpup72]

The age gap can be whatever you think. If you’re an older guy, what has worked for you? If you’re a younger woman, what would/could/has worked for you?

Older man who may be getting released back into the wild soon and have no idea what I’m in for…..

Gold AmEx

 

[LeaHaven]

Want a younger woman hang out where they do. Dive bars. Most 30-somethings aren’t hanging out I. Upscale restaurants and bars.

I say go to nightclubs and live music events.

 

[Littletoo]

The age gap can be whatever you think. If you’re an older guy, what has worked for you? If you’re a younger woman, what would/could/has worked for you?

Older man who may be getting released back into the wild soon and have no idea what I’m in for…..

Older men know how to s l o w d o w n.

 

[LeaHaven]

Older men know how to s l o w d o w n.

You mean like the security guard asleep in the corner?

 

[Cardinal]

Want a younger woman hang out where they do. Dive bars. Most 30-somethings aren’t hanging out I. Upscale restaurants and bars.

This is good advice and kind of funny, yeah I don’t meet a lot of young women at the country club or the restaurants that I frequent. Might have to change things up.