2008 News & Views: Discussion and Announcements for the Survivorphile

[CrimsonMaiden]

Scoreboard has been updated.

 

[PrincessErin]

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[LitEroCat]

We love you Crimson Maiden

Lit - you still didn't answer my question. So a pic subscription site? Naked pics? Of what?

Erin

I didn't know there was a ?

'of what?' ummm, t&a and delicious Cookies!

There are loads, ummm many, free subscription sites. Most are not worth the phosphors. Maybe I shouldn't say that since I haven' seen even a tenth of what's there. But there are some interesting Yahoo or Google adult groups and even some classy model sites. Go explore.

 

[PrincessErin]

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[LitEroCat]

Aha. Now I understand. I figured that was what it was but since your past conversations have been about wax, fruit, and other weird things I didn't know if you were really talking about food.

Erin

Ohhhhh, well IIRC it was Lady who was strong on hairless/waxed bodies. I'm not into THAT much pain. I don't have any use for wax fruit either.

But weird foods.... how can that hurt? Don't you like playing with your foods? What's weird about body food? Even a simple, warm, chocolate syrup drizzled on tasty nips and cookies is a delight.
Right Lady?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Ohhhhh, well IIRC it was Lady who was strong on hairless/waxed bodies. I'm not into THAT much pain. I don't have any use for wax fruit either.

But weird foods.... how can that hurt? Don't you like playing with your foods? What's weird about body food? Even a simple, warm, chocolate syrup drizzled on tasty nips and cookies is a delight.
Right Lady?

The food is alright, but it's the serving dishes that are truly a delight.

 

[LitEroCat]

The food is alright, but it's the serving dishes that are truly a delight.

No argument from me. Though I'd rather lick warm chocolate off her than cole slaw! Either way, the fun is in licking the plate (and that luscious COOKIE) clean clean clean!

So Ladies, what would you prefer to lick off my bod?

from 'Grease': "How'd you like to bite my weiner. 'With relish' "

 

[PrincessErin]

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[LitEroCat]

Pnut B and SCCA ??

Good afternoon all,

It's back to being quiet and lonely in here. Lit - I do like chocolate, but only chocolate. I think peanut butter is gross and that would be quite messy to lick off.

Although right now it's cold and damp and windy here so a nice hot bath with some strawberry bubble bath would be perfect.

Erin

How can u not like pnut butter? Next time bring the marmalade and cayenne with the chocolate!

Anyone watch the SCCA race at LaGuna Seca? I don't understand how, if it was live, they could extend to NIGHT racing there when it was only 3:30 EST. Monterey is 3 hours earlier, yet they needed their lights.

LaGunna Seca (LS) is a fun track. I rode several street bikes on it and have some fun stories. It's a very busy track at speed, so the only speed I remember is entering turn 1 on a 1000cc Ninja at 135. No time to check speed after that, but what a great bike! It handled by thought control.

Ohh, I did check it again at the top of the corkscrew while braking VERY hard. On a Ninja I went in at 60+ and out at 65+, on a touring bike I went in at 30, scrapping both footboards, and came out at 25! ...with soiled pants!

 

[PrincessErin]

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[LitEroCat]

I do not like the consistency of peanut butter. I like peanut butter cookies but otherwise the consistency and the smell of peanut butter is gross.
My hubbie loves peanut butter but knows to brush his teeth if he expects a kiss.

Lit - street bike racing - sounds fun but dangerous. I prefer sports in water because you can't get hurt as easily.

Erin

...or choc covered Pnut butter wafers?

It wasn't all out racing, more like testing street bikes on the track with 3 pace bikes. Touring/slow bikes were at the back of the pack.

Yup, bikes are risky. That also provides for the intense adrenalin rush!

 

[PrincessErin]

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[LadynStFreknBed]

Ohhhhh, well IIRC it was Lady who was strong on hairless/waxed bodies.

yeessss!!! And much to my delight, Africans have very little body hair.

Even a simple, warm, chocolate syrup drizzled on tasty nips and cookies is a delight.
Right Lady?

That was fun!!!

I prefer sports in water because you can't get hurt as easily.

Erin

Unless there's a shark..
or you burn as easily as I do.. sun poison is no fun!

 

[PrincessErin]

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[LitEroCat]

Oh NOOOOOOOO!

"Unwrapped" just included a story on chocolates, including "Mo's Bacon Bar".
Bacon is smoked, crumbled then mixed into the gooey choc to make the bars. Smoked sea salt is added too. Why? They say you can buy them online!

Who's first? suueeeeeeeee! oink....

How can we put them in a story?

 

[PrincessErin]

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[LitEroCat]

Yucky. No no no. Bacon and chocolate do not mix.

I could put them into a story. A humour and satire story (I need 7 more of those stories anyways).

The cute and horny woman goes over to her boyfriend's house where he cooks her a delicious dinner he saw on television. They are making out before dinner and he accidently sets the kitchen on fire when cooking the bacon because he is distracted by her beauty.

Or she eats the dinner even though she doesn't like it and later on during sex she throws up everywhere because her stomach can't handle the disgusting combination.

Chicken! I suppose you don't eat unshelled shrimp, or kiwi fuzz, or crawdads, or extra moldy cheese? Be brave....

Halloween foods are all over. IRON CHEF had a Battle Offals - it was awful!
The key desert was ground liver truffle, covered in choc powder. I'd have to work up to that one too!

The meringue femur seems edible though!

 

[PrincessErin]

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[Boxlicker101]

As of tomorrow we will know how many people are doing the Survivor contest and if we're neurotic like some people we can start figuring out who our competition is. Of course I'd like to think that all the sane people here are not worried about the competition so much as they are competiting with themselves.

I've been roaming around the AH and there was a statement that the Survivor contest started because the authors wanted it. Of course the next statement was could it be rid of for next year. Hm.... what do you think?

As I wrote on the other thread, it's going to get nasty and evil and mean for the next two months and maybe this could be the last year for it.

Erin

The first year I entered was 2003. The winner had a score slightly over 200; second place was about 170 and third was about 150. I was fourth, and out of the money with about 110. I don't know if that was the first year of the contest or not. The contestants, including myself, tried to post quality work, as they would have done if there had been nothing monetary at stake.

That changed the next year, with the winner having a score of over 600 and others not far behind. I think I finished about sixth, with a score that was higher than the previous year's winner. Some of the stories were just sort of thrown together and submitted, with no concern with how good they were. I don't mean mine, although I did sometimes sluff off on the proof reading and editing in oder to get more writing done.

It has been that way since. I try to post stories that will arouse people sexually, and avoid writing crap, although some people conside all of my stories to be crap, because I don't follow arbitrary rules. I have to admit that some of my poems were submitted with the intention of filling a category with ten submissions. I don't even do that any more.

If the contest is ended, it will be because the management decides that it encourages authors to concentrate on quantity at the expense of quality. I hope that doesn't happen, even though I have never won a monetary prize.

 

[MungoParkIII]

You know, year after year

I have read a similar post where one "writer" denigrates the hundreds of stories submitted by the top several finishers in the survivor contest each year saying, "Some of the stories were just sort of thrown together and submitted with no concern with how good they were." Mind you, his statement doesn't mention how many stories he read... where the top finishers were submitting several hundred stories, or whether he bothered to read all of them (the initial comment goes back to where he apparently read a handful of Jthserra's stories).

I decided to do a bit of research to see how some of the top finishers in some of the past contests have actually been received.

The "writer" complained some of Jthserra's stories were thrown together without regard to quality, without saying whether it was 1, 2, 5 or 10 stories he read. Considering that Jthserra submitted 433 stories I believe "the writer"'s sampling had to be small, especially considering the quality I have found in the stories.

During that year of competition, Jthserra got 3 green E's, and yes, I hear it all the time from writers who have never received one that the green E's mean nothing. For me, I always looked at the green Es I received for my stories and poems with pride, since I look at them as the closest thing to an Editorial nod this site has. The "writer" in all his years writing here has yet to receive one. While that doesn't mean his stories are bad, it's just that nothing has caught the attention of the editors, like three of Jthserra's stories did.

Jthserra also has five stories currently listed on the 500 most read stories on Literotica listing and I wasn't able to find a single of the "writer"'s on the list. Perhaps I missed one... let me know on that. Jthserra also has a number of poems on the most read poetry list. And if you read Jthserra's poetry you will see he was not just "filling a category with ten submissions."

Jthserra's poetry was some of the most reviewed poetry during that year... for those of you readers that aren't familar with the literotica poetry thread, some of the more experienced and gifted poets have written daily reviews of the poetry they find appealing for many years now. Go back in the archives and see how often Jthserra shows up.

The contest went on and each year came the same complaint from the author as he ranked in the top 15 but well behind the top finishers. Did he once again read some (is that 1, 2, 3, or maybe 50... ah 50 might be a more representative sample) of the top finishers or did he simply assume that they had to be bad.

The year before last there were a few barometers of story quality available. Decayed Angel got several green Es in the year where the "writer" didn't. Yes, make your argument on how little this means, but I think Decayed Angel was proud. Ah but that year there was another barometer of what you might call good stories... a number of the top writers got together a review thread basically outlining their picks of the top stories each day.

Well, Selenakittyn, who finished second in the survivor contest that year had the most stories make the daily listing doing it a whopping 17 times. The writer who had the second most recommendations was... Decayed Angel with 15 reviews. If I recall from my research the "writer" had something like 8, a reasonable total, but not as many as the top two finishers in Survivor that year.

Last year... well the AH story review thread became a very infrequent thing, but the green E's were still around. The top finisher (yes that was me) had 2 and the second place finisher (BostonFictionWriter) had 1. Again I was proud of my achievement as I believe BFW was. Since that time BFW has reached #33 on the top 250 authors at Literotica, a substantial feat for someone only two years posting. The "writer" is listed a number of places below BFW but well within the top 100.

Once again, I do not recall reading any of the "writer"'s work as my intention is not to call his work into question. I simply have gotten tired of the repetition of the same whining complaint about the poor quality of stories. This complaint is based simply upon a cursory review of a handful of stories by any of the top ranked contenders. Unfortunately, I think there is a growing swell of opinion that the stories generated by the top ranked survivor contenders are not quality, stories based, not upon reading the stories, but in conversation or postings like those repeated over and over and over and over ad nausium in this thread.

Hey, rather than just go with the flow, why not try reading a representative sampling of those Survivor Contestants and Writers you have repeatedly trashed here. Keeping in mind if I read a sampling of your poetry, my opinion of your writing in general might not be as accurate as if I read a representative sampling of all your works. You may find some interesting styles and approaches, some that work, others that don't. It's the least you should do.

Please note, my use of writer in quotes was simply to simplify the reading and was not intended as a comment on the meanings or implications of the word writer. "Writer" in quotes above merely refers specifically to the writer of the posts that repeatedly, year after year, denigrated the top writers at in the Survivor Contest and at Literotica.

MPIII

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

...and suddenly there is light and it is good.

I have read a similar post where one "writer" denigrates the hundreds of stories submitted by the top several finishers in the survivor contest each year saying, "Some of the stories were just sort of thrown together and submitted with no concern with how good they were." Mind you, his statement doesn't mention how many stories he read... where the top finishers were submitting several hundred stories, or whether he bothered to read all of them (the initial comment goes back to where he apparently read a handful of Jthserra's stories).

I decided to do a bit of research to see how some of the top finishers in some of the past contests have actually been received.

The "writer" complained some of Jthserra's stories were thrown together without regard to quality, without saying whether it was 1, 2, 5 or 10 stories he read. Considering that Jthserra submitted 433 stories I believe "the writer"'s sampling had to be small, especially considering the quality I have found in the stories.

During that year of competition, Jthserra got 3 green E's, and yes, I hear it all the time from writers who have never received one that the green E's mean nothing. For me, I always looked at the green Es I received for my stories and poems with pride, since I look at them as the closest thing to an Editorial nod this site has. The "writer" in all his years writing here has yet to receive one. While that doesn't mean his stories are bad, it's just that nothing has caught the attention of the editors, like three of Jthserra's stories did.

Jthserra also has five stories currently listed on the 500 most read stories on Literotica listing and I wasn't able to find a single of the "writer"'s on the list. Perhaps I missed one... let me know on that. Jthserra also has a number of poems on the most read poetry list. And if you read Jthserra's poetry you will see he was not just "filling a category with ten submissions."

Jthserra's poetry was some of the most reviewed poetry during that year... for those of you readers that aren't familar with the literotica poetry thread, some of the more experienced and gifted poets have written daily reviews of the poetry they find appealing for many years now. Go back in the archives and see how often Jthserra shows up.

The contest went on and each year came the same complaint from the author as he ranked in the top 15 but well behind the top finishers. Did he once again read some (is that 1, 2, 3, or maybe 50... ah 50 might be a more representative sample) of the top finishers or did he simply assume that they had to be bad.

The year before last there were a few barometers of story quality available. Decayed Angel got several green Es in the year where the "writer" didn't. Yes, make your argument on how little this means, but I think Decayed Angel was proud. Ah but that year there was another barometer of what you might call good stories... a number of the top writers got together a review thread basically outlining their picks of the top stories each day.

Well, Selenakittyn, who finished second in the survivor contest that year had the most stories make the daily listing doing it a whopping 17 times. The writer who had the second most recommendations was... Decayed Angel with 15 reviews. If I recall from my research the "writer" had something like 8, a reasonable total, but not as many as the top two finishers in Survivor that year.

Last year... well the AH story review thread became a very infrequent thing, but the green E's were still around. The top finisher (yes that was me) had 2 and the second place finisher (BostonFictionWriter) had 1. Again I was proud of my achievement as I believe BFW was. Since that time BFW has reached #33 on the top 250 authors at Literotica, a substantial feat for someone only two years posting. The "writer" is listed a number of places below BFW but well within the top 100.

Once again, I do not recall reading any of the "writer"'s work as my intention is not to call his work into question. I simply have gotten tired of the repetition of the same whining complaint about the poor quality of stories. This complaint is based simply upon a cursory review of a handful of stories by any of the top ranked contenders. Unfortunately, I think there is a growing swell of opinion that the stories generated by the top ranked survivor contenders are not quality, stories based, not upon reading the stories, but in conversation or postings like those repeated over and over and over and over ad nausium in this thread.

Hey, rather than just go with the flow, why not try reading a representative sampling of those Survivor Contestants and Writers you have repeatedly trashed here. Keeping in mind if I read a sampling of your poetry, my opinion of your writing in general might not be as accurate as if I read a representative sampling of all your works. You may find some interesting styles and approaches, some that work, others that don't. It's the least you should do.

Please note, my use of writer in quotes was simply to simplify the reading and was not intended as a comment on the meanings or implications of the word writer. "Writer" in quotes above merely refers specifically to the writer of the posts that repeatedly, year after year, denigrated the top writers at in the Survivor Contest and at Literotica.

MPIII

Just when the clouds darken the sky, just when you are alone with your thoughts and your bad self, a voice from the past emerges to let you know that all the hard work, all the effort, and all the dedication to writing the story was worth it.

More than one AH regular has referred to my stories as shit. More than one AH writer has bashed me and my stories. They disregard me as a writer because they say how can a writer who writes so many stories possibly write a quality story. The same people have probably not read any of my stories.

My stories are not 750-1000 word fluff stories but quality stories with real characters of 3,000 words and more. These are the same people who snub their nose at the Survivor contest because they say it ruins a writer. I have the opposite opinion. It has improved my writing. I dare say that they snub their nose at the contest because they couldn't survive it.

As it is nearly impossible to write so many stories, it's not easy to create and develop stories in so many categories. Yet, that's okay because I don't write for them. I write for myself.

There are those AH regulars who want this contest to end. They are the ones who don't understand real competition. They are the ones who think that a contest is a theme contest where all your friends vote for you to win. Sure the Survivor Contest is merely quality, but as a serious writer, I cannot post a story that I am not proud to have someone read.

It doesn't matter to me if I win this year's Survivor's Contest. I've already won in so many other ways. Again, I'd like to thank Literotica for the opportunity given me to see my stories in print.

It's good to hear from you again MungoPark III. You are sorely missed in this competition.

I am honored to has lost to you last year.

 

[starrkers]

Correct me if I've got my times out (again), but I think the doors are now closed for new entrants.

So now it's truly game on.

 

[PrincessErin]

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[Boxlicker101]

I have read a similar post where one "writer" denigrates the hundreds of stories submitted by the top several finishers in the survivor contest each year saying, "Some of the stories were just sort of thrown together and submitted with no concern with how good they were." Mind you, his statement doesn't mention how many stories he read... where the top finishers were submitting several hundred stories, or whether he bothered to read all of them (the initial comment goes back to where he apparently read a handful of Jthserra's stories).

I decided to do a bit of research to see how some of the top finishers in some of the past contests have actually been received.

The "writer" complained some of Jthserra's stories were thrown together without regard to quality, without saying whether it was 1, 2, 5 or 10 stories he read. Considering that Jthserra submitted 433 stories I believe "the writer"'s sampling had to be small, especially considering the quality I have found in the stories.

During that year of competition, Jthserra got 3 green E's, and yes, I hear it all the time from writers who have never received one that the green E's mean nothing. For me, I always looked at the green Es I received for my stories and poems with pride, since I look at them as the closest thing to an Editorial nod this site has. The "writer" in all his years writing here has yet to receive one. While that doesn't mean his stories are bad, it's just that nothing has caught the attention of the editors, like three of Jthserra's stories did.

Jthserra also has five stories currently listed on the 500 most read stories on Literotica listing and I wasn't able to find a single of the "writer"'s on the list. Perhaps I missed one... let me know on that. Jthserra also has a number of poems on the most read poetry list. And if you read Jthserra's poetry you will see he was not just "filling a category with ten submissions."

Jthserra's poetry was some of the most reviewed poetry during that year... for those of you readers that aren't familar with the literotica poetry thread, some of the more experienced and gifted poets have written daily reviews of the poetry they find appealing for many years now. Go back in the archives and see how often Jthserra shows up.

The contest went on and each year came the same complaint from the author as he ranked in the top 15 but well behind the top finishers. Did he once again read some (is that 1, 2, 3, or maybe 50... ah 50 might be a more representative sample) of the top finishers or did he simply assume that they had to be bad.

The year before last there were a few barometers of story quality available. Decayed Angel got several green Es in the year where the "writer" didn't. Yes, make your argument on how little this means, but I think Decayed Angel was proud. Ah but that year there was another barometer of what you might call good stories... a number of the top writers got together a review thread basically outlining their picks of the top stories each day.

Well, Selenakittyn, who finished second in the survivor contest that year had the most stories make the daily listing doing it a whopping 17 times. The writer who had the second most recommendations was... Decayed Angel with 15 reviews. If I recall from my research the "writer" had something like 8, a reasonable total, but not as many as the top two finishers in Survivor that year.

Last year... well the AH story review thread became a very infrequent thing, but the green E's were still around. The top finisher (yes that was me) had 2 and the second place finisher (BostonFictionWriter) had 1. Again I was proud of my achievement as I believe BFW was. Since that time BFW has reached #33 on the top 250 authors at Literotica, a substantial feat for someone only two years posting. The "writer" is listed a number of places below BFW but well within the top 100.

Once again, I do not recall reading any of the "writer"'s work as my intention is not to call his work into question. I simply have gotten tired of the repetition of the same whining complaint about the poor quality of stories. This complaint is based simply upon a cursory review of a handful of stories by any of the top ranked contenders. Unfortunately, I think there is a growing swell of opinion that the stories generated by the top ranked survivor contenders are not quality, stories based, not upon reading the stories, but in conversation or postings like those repeated over and over and over and over ad nausium in this thread.

Hey, rather than just go with the flow, why not try reading a representative sampling of those Survivor Contestants and Writers you have repeatedly trashed here. Keeping in mind if I read a sampling of your poetry, my opinion of your writing in general might not be as accurate as if I read a representative sampling of all your works. You may find some interesting styles and approaches, some that work, others that don't. It's the least you should do.

Please note, my use of writer in quotes was simply to simplify the reading and was not intended as a comment on the meanings or implications of the word writer. "Writer" in quotes above merely refers specifically to the writer of the posts that repeatedly, year after year, denigrated the top writers at in the Survivor Contest and at Literotica.

MPIII

It has been a long time since I was involved in a competition to see whose is biggest, and I didn't expect to do it again. However, since I have been called out, here goes:

Without question, you are referring to me and the post I made earlier about the contest in 2004 and subsequently. I didn't mention any names, but I was referring to Jthserra, and nobody else. I am also only referring to stories, not poems. Although I do write some doggerel, I think of myself as being an author of dirty stories, with the poetry output being incidental. I pay very little attention to how my poems are doing, as far as score or anything else goes.

I don't know how many stories I read by J, but I do remember that I didn't care for any of them. They were not very erotic; they seemed pointless, and they should have been edited better. They were also short, which was probably a good thing. "Thown together" may have been a bit strong, but they were certainly not well-crafted.

An E does not interest me particularly. It just gives the trolls something to bomb. J does have two of them, one in "How to" and one in non-eotic. Neither of these categories holds more than minimal interest for me, so he can keep them. Neither of these enties has an H either. BFW has one E in Reviews & Essays and you have one for an actual story. I have none of them, and will probably never have one, because I don't follow the rules for literature, prefering to write stroke stories without much plot or character development.

However I do have two W fom last year. These and the H mean something, because they reflect enjoyment expressed by readers.

Essays and "How to" are included with stories, and I have 248, with 118 H, which is about 47.5% of the time. I didn't count how many combined stories and essays you and J and BFW have, but there are a lot of them. I did count the H because there aren't so many of them. J has 53; BFW has 36 and you have 35. That does not include poetry, because I have little interest in those categories.

I don't know how my percentage of H compare with other prolific authors (By which I mean having 100 or more stories posted. J, BFW, you and I all have well over that many.) I do know I am well ahead of any of you three, although you all have more postings than I do. My goal is to write the dirtiest stories, not the most.

 

[PrincessErin]

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