As it stands today

[BAstoicguy]

Today the democrats are still leaderless and the leading candidates to lead the party are singing the same old song. Meaning that their message is fine, they just didn't wrap it up in the proper camouflage in 2024.

From the confusion and chaos a leader will emerge: the example has been set and they are not stupid people, they just became overpowered by the power of the cause and now that the cause is dead, having jumped the shark with impudence as if it were grand finale, opportunity presents itself for principled (common-sense) leadership to emerge.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

It was from chaos, confusion, and disorder that Hitler emerged.


Stick that one into your Weimar Republic . . . .

 

[BAstoicguy]

There is that. Ruthless and ambitious is not always nice. It might tweet mean.

 

[Rebel5soul]

From the confusion and chaos a leader will emerge: the example has been set and they are not stupid people, they just became overpowered by the power of the cause and now that the cause is dead, having jumped the shark with impudence as if it were grand finale, opportunity presents itself for principled (common-sense) leadership to emerge.

The problem as I see it is that those with the juice to win the leadership position are all in lockstep with wokesters. I see no disruptor on the horizon yet.

 

[ll74]

From the confusion and chaos a leader will emerge: the example has been set and they are not stupid people, they just became overpowered by the power of the cause and now that the cause is dead, having jumped the shark with impudence as if it were grand finale, opportunity presents itself for principled (common-sense) leadership to emerge.

How many people jumped into the fray when the Republican leader lost? Did a new leader emerge?

I forget the story...sorry...may want to provide me with a synopsis.....that Desantis guy is going places.

 

[BAstoicguy]

The disruptors ran off rather than fight which is why I say, DO NOT TRUST TULSI!

 

[BAstoicguy]

It may take a long time and a couple of defeats for an evolution to occur. Right now the focus is on purging and purity and the nipping in the bud of potential rivals, like the lion king killing the cubs in the pride not his own.

 

[ll74]

It may take a long time and a couple of defeats for an evolution to occur. Right now the focus is on purging and purity and the nipping in the bud of potential rivals, like the lion king killing the cubs in the pride not his own.

How did that work for the Republicans?

I heard they're going places

 

[Rebel5soul]

The disruptors ran off rather than fight which is why I say, DO NOT TRUST TULSI!

Were run off is more like it.

 

[BAstoicguy]

IlDuce, you've talked yourself into a corner. No one wants to have a damned thing to do with your sarcastic wit and biting criticism other than botany and busy who love playing the 'round and 'round game, thread without end. Amen. Amen.

Unfortunately for you, both are smarter. The rest of us just ignore your pathetic Perter Pan Me Too antics.

You just are not all that you deem yourself and then inflict upon others.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Quoted in case of edits. Saved to Word doc in case of deletion.

This will be a really fun thread to bump in 2025/26/27/28.

#bumplater

By the year 2026 Trump will have made mistakes that reduce his popularity. By 2028 Republican politicians will be afraid to be associated with him.

 

[BAstoicguy]

Were run off is more like it.

Leaders DO NOT RUN!
They might strategically retreat, but they aim to win the fight. These are quitters. There are enough of them to have reformed the party. That's the same thing I say about all the cockroaches that we let flee banana republics and Castro. We're enablers.

The Republicans are enabling losers and that's an infection that will spread among the winners.

We need to get past the fact that Nancy is a woman who served in the military and realize, SHE's A FUCKING ATTENTION WHORE just like Tulsi and RFK. At least the loon has a semi-rational cause.

 

[BAstoicguy]

By the year 2026 Trump will have made mistakes that reduce his popularity. By 2028 Republican politicians will be afraid to be associated with him.

He will not require mistakes anymore than anyone was satisfied when NOT TRUMP won the election...

 

[ll74]

IlDuce, you've talked yourself into a corner. No one wants to have a damned thing to do with your sarcastic wit and biting criticism other than botany and busy who love playing the 'round and 'round game, thread without end. Amen. Amen.

Unfortunately for you, both are smarter. The rest of us just ignore your pathetic Perter Pan Me Too antics.

You just are not all that you deem yourself and then inflict upon others.

Please, tell me more about your feedback. It's always fun to hear what I am by people on this forum. Did you corroborate with pP or bB? (yes, you're not bB.....I know)

Quick question - is your comment considered ignoring me? If so, I should probably update my definition notes on the word.

Though I do know that the ignore feature only works here if you tell everyone that you're doing it....so....

 

[Politruk]

The disruptors ran off rather than fight which is why I say, DO NOT TRUST TULSI!

What's she got to do with anything?

 

[Politruk]

By the year 2026 Trump will have made mistakes that reduce his popularity. By 2028 Republican politicians will be afraid to be associated with him.

By 2026 Trump will no longer be president. 25th Amendment.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Unless.... he and the courts manage to circumvent the 25th Amendment the same way he has circumvented all other checks and balances so far. That is the problem.

He already successfully circumvented the 14th amendment with the help of his lackeys in the courts.

He shouldn't be president as it is. He should be in JAIL. I am not so sure he won't be president after 2028 when his term expires,(not 2026- but we know what you mean.) whether the Constitution allows it or not.

 

[Rebel5soul]

The non-existent illegal alien gang that wasn't terrorizing an apartment complex in Aurora CO. isn't being rounded up and held.

 

[HisArpy]

He already successfully circumvented the 14th amendment with the help of his lackeys in the courts.

I assume this means that you BELIEVE that Trump somehow avoided fate because he "bought off" the courts through appointments or favors.

Yet 2 things emerge from this;

First; no court heard this (as far as I remember) matter so no court ruled on it because NO ONE BROUGHT IT UP before them. The three cases where states like Colorado attempted to keep Trump off the ballot were dismissed because the State has no standing regarding the 14th Amendment's bar to holding public office AND the States cannot determine who will be on the ballot in Federal elections as long as the candidate meets all other criteria.

Second; this also shows that rather than having disputes heard in a neutral court, you prefer to just dispense your brand of justice based on political viewpoint and ideology rather than accepting what society and the courts decide.

 

[PaxNurgle]

I accept what the Constitution says verbatim. The courts, many of which were justices he appointed, refused to do their job and abide by the Constitution, which says, word for word:
(Section 3.)
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

This is the Constitution of the United States. Colorado and other states had every right, and every standing, to due their due diligance and invoke the 14th Amendment to keep him off the ballot. This is not based on political viewpoint or ideology, it is based on the Constitution and the system of checks and balances.

 

[BAstoicguy]

That issue is as dead as the people addressed by the 14th. It was a knee-jerk, bad Amendment to the US Constitution and it virtually repealed itself because of that –– BUT, like the law used to "get Trump," was resurrected from the dead to "get votes."

 

[Wat_Tyler]

It was watery broth as insurrections go.


I prefer mine like a hearty stew, with chunks of Meaty Goodness and Savory Tastiness.


It was maybe closer to urine than water . . . .

 

[BAstoicguy]

They said it was a gentle warm, purple rain.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

It was urine impersonating rain.


Down the back.


Told it was rain . . . .

 

[HisArpy]

I accept what the Constitution says verbatim. The courts, many of which were justices he appointed, refused to do their job and abide by the Constitution, which says, word for word:
(Section 3.)
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

This is the Constitution of the United States. Colorado and other states had every right, and every standing, to due their due diligance and invoke the 14th Amendment to keep him off the ballot. This is not based on political viewpoint or ideology, it is based on the Constitution and the system of checks and balances.

Then you also accept "shall not be infringed." Right? I mean it's like that's "verbatim" and everything.

Basically you, like most of the dumfuks on the Left, don't really know what you're talking about and instead only spew the lib fantasy talking points.

Those talking points sort of gloss over the issue of whether Trump was ever adjudicated as having "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" and instead go right to the end game of a proclamation that he did so. And you do it while lamenting the fact that no court ever heard the matter because all the judges are Trump appointees (which is about the STUPIDEST and most internally contradictory thing you've ever said).