'Bad' Movies, TV Shows, Books Etc. You Like

[alohadave]

"Split Second" with Rutger Hauer as a streetwise Detective chasing a 10-foot-tall serial killing, astrology enthusiast that for some unknown reason carries within it the DNA of all its victims and a bunch of rats. The thing looks like a cross between the Spiderman villain "Venom" and a xenomorph. Hauer's partner sports an Oxford education, but no street smarts. This movie has very little plot, budget, or passable special effects. What it does have is some great banter between the mismatched partners, big guns (although not big enough and this is a point of contention at one point), plenty of gore, gallons of sugar-enhanced coffee, gratuitous Kim Cattrall nudity, a heartwarming environmental message, and Rutger Hauer is at his grizzled best! I watch this thing every Halloween. Not a movie for Siskel and Ebert, but Chainsaw and Dave would give it two thumbs up.

"We're gonna need more guns!"

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Maybe? But, like, look at Shakespeare. Cymbeline, Two Gentlemen of Verona, Pericles... he's got some real stinkers. Sometimes even the greats who are passionate about a subject make bad art. Several of these easily slot into the "bad, but likeable" category, but Pericles is trash. Hell, Spielberg, even staying within just film, made 1941, which.... yeah.

Sure, 1941 isn't great. It isn't terrible either. I'd argue that it's as good a film as Roadhouse. But keep in mind it was early in Speilberg's career and he's admitted he learned a lot from the experience.

 

[lucy_sometimes]

Nothing can be 'bad' If someone, somewhere likes it. You like what you like. End of story. There is no council of elders, who objectively classify things.

If you watch a not so great film with someone you fancy and maybe get a brief hug or a peck on the cheek afterwards, that film might be remembered as one of your favourites.

 

[jaF0]

Spielberg, even staying within just film, made 1941, which.... yeah.

Not a bad movie by any means. Down right funny in many places. Other places went a bit too far into stupid silly (Ned Beatty on the AckAck Gun)

Top notch, grade A, all start cast including Toshiro Mifune of Midway and Grand Prix among so many others.

Summer School?

This gave us Fabiana Udenio.

 

[jaF0]

One that hasn't been mentioned is Runaway with Tom Selleck, Gene Simmons (of KISS) and Kirstie Alley (in her prime).

Weird futuristic movie with killer robot spiders.

 

[Candy_Kane54]

The Last Action Hero movie was panned but I thought it was a great spoof on action movies.

 

[Bisexguy70]

Im watching Hell behind the bars movie on TUBI. Its a B movie but has a lot of soft porn scenes of woman with other woman. Some of it is the warden torturing some of the prisoners in some makeshift torture set up. One is a woman on her knees and she sticks this spreader in her asshole to check for hidden drugs. All you see is the device being inserted. I must admit my cock was hard watching the woman in the prison cells suck each others tits and the torture scenes. One gorl is black so the interracial is hot. The movie plot sucks but watching nude scenes for free without pop ups and cookies and age verification is a welcomed thing in my life right now.

 

[Bisexguy70]

The 13th Warrior, in my opinion, wasn't as bad as a lot of people make it out to be. And I say that as someone who isn't overly interested in Norse history and who was bored to tears by what little I saw of the Vikings series.

Thats kinda of a cool movie.

 

[Areala-chan]

OK, I'll bite. My guilty pleasure, this-is-so-bad-and-I-don't-care television show is the very short-lived vampiric soap opera Kindred: The Embraced from 1996. This was Melrose Place mixed with vampires, infused with so much cheese they could have been financed by Big Dairy. And I do not care one bit: this was the sort of melodramatic nonsense which the teenaged Areala-chan threw herself at with great zeal, and I was sorely disappointed when it was canceled after having only aired seven of its original eight episodes.

It's gained something of a cult following in the years since, understandably so since vampires came roaring back into vogue, but make no mistake, it is not 'good' by any objective measurement (except maybe how unworldly attractive Stacy Haiduk is).

Regardless, I own the DVD set and watch it every year, always wondering what might have been if they'd had the benefit of a bit more time to get their feet under them. By episodes seven and eight, the cast has clearly figured out and are feeling comfortable in their roles, and the writers had killed off two significant characters to pare down the number of people viewers needed to keep track of. The number of talented people involved in this, either as recurring roles or guest stars, is simply nuts: along with the aforementioned Stacy Haiduk, we've got Erik King (Doakes from Dexter), Brian Thompson, C. Thomas Howell, Jeff Kober, Patrick Bauchau, Titus Welliver, Yuji Okumoto, a very young Emile Hirsch, Ivan Sergei, Nicky Katt, and the incredibly talented Mark Frankel who sadly died in a motorcycle accident not long after the show ended.

 

[Rob_Royale]

John Carter wasn't a bad movie. It is quite good in most respects. But did Disney ever screw up it's release. Initially named John Carter of Mars, based on source material by Edgar Rice Burroughs (Tarzan). They renamed it John Carter for some stupid reason. If you are going to release a sci-fi film, it's sort of important that the title should reflect that. And then the totally botched ad campaign which ruined any shot at this becoming a franchise. It was a lifelong dream of mine to see successful films based on the Barsoom stories. I'll just have to be happy with the one.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Thats kinda of a cool movie.

Michael Crichton!

 

[Kelliezgirl]

John Carter wasn't a bad movie. It is quite good in most respects. But did Disney ever screw up it's release. Initially named John Carter of Mars, based on source material by Edgar Rice Burroughs (Tarzan). They renamed it John Carter for some stupid reason. If you are going to release a sci-fi film, it's sort of important that the title should reflect that. And then the totally botched ad campaign which ruined any shot at this becoming a franchise. It was a lifelong dream of mine to see successful films based on the Barsoom stories. I'll just have to be happy with the one.

Hadn't some other Mars titled movie just tanked and they were trying to avoid any association? It was some utterly stupid logic like that.

 

[lovecraft68]

Michael Crichton!

The movie was a lot better than the source material. "Eaters of the dead" was kind of meh IMO

 

[Kelliezgirl]

The movie was a lot better than the source material. "Eaters of the dead" was kind of meh IMO

I suppose that has to happen once in awhile so we have an exception to prove the rule.
Howl's Moving Castle is another rare case of the movie being better than the book.

 

[Bamagan]

OK, I'll bite. My guilty pleasure, this-is-so-bad-and-I-don't-care television show is the very short-lived vampiric soap opera Kindred: The Embraced from 1996. This was Melrose Place mixed with vampires, infused with so much cheese they could have been financed by Big Dairy. And I do not care one bit: this was the sort of melodramatic nonsense which the teenaged Areala-chan threw herself at with great zeal, and I was sorely disappointed when it was canceled after having only aired seven of its original eight episodes.

It's gained something of a cult following in the years since, understandably so since vampires came roaring back into vogue, but make no mistake, it is not 'good' by any objective measurement (except maybe how unworldly attractive Stacy Haiduk is).

Regardless, I own the DVD set and watch it every year, always wondering what might have been if they'd had the benefit of a bit more time to get their feet under them. By episodes seven and eight, the cast has clearly figured out and are feeling comfortable in their roles, and the writers had killed off two significant characters to pare down the number of people viewers needed to keep track of. The number of talented people involved in this, either as recurring roles or guest stars, is simply nuts: along with the aforementioned Stacy Haiduk, we've got Erik King (Doakes from Dexter), Brian Thompson, C. Thomas Howell, Jeff Kober, Patrick Bauchau, Titus Welliver, Yuji Okumoto, a very young Emile Hirsch, Ivan Sergei, Nicky Katt, and the incredibly talented Mark Frankel who sadly died in a motorcycle accident not long after the show ended.

I remember watching that because I played the RPG it was loosely based off of around the same time. I liked parts of it, but it didn't really resemble the source material, so it was kind of a miss from my expectations and hopes. Still, it would be interesting to peek into an alternate reality where they got several seasons to grow and see what became of the story.

 

[Rob_Royale]

The movie was a lot better than the source material. "Eaters of the dead" was kind of meh IMO

I would say that about most of Crichton's work frankly. Once he became the "movie writer guy" back on the 70's, his work seemed to be written with screen adaption in mind. A screen writers dream, really.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Michael Crichton!

His novel versions of Jurassic Park and The Andromeda Strain were pretty good science fiction.

 

[gunhilltrain]

The Last Action Hero movie was panned but I thought it was a great spoof on action movies.

Many of Arnold's movies work as satires. He's in on the joke in a lot of them.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I would say that about most of Crichton's work frankly. Once he became the "movie writer guy" back on the 70's, his work seemed to be written with screen adaption in mind. A screen writers dream, really.

Seems like that is where the money is.
One of my Professors had a maxim, "Talent follows money."
He'd ask, "who is the greatest living classical composer?"
His answer was John Williams.
There isn't any money to be made writing classical music.
You can make a ton of money writing movie scores if you are good.
Beethoven, Bach and all the rest would be writing movie scores if they were alive today.

 

[lovecraft68]

I suppose that has to happen once in awhile so we have an exception to prove the rule.
Howl's Moving Castle is another rare case of the movie being better than the book.

I generally enjoy the books more and hate to see bad movie versions because it can turn people off to the book.

F Paul Wilson's the Keep is one of the best horror novels of all time, but the movie? Ugh...but the director had an original three hour version and he was told to lop a third off, so who knows what it could have been?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I generally enjoy the books more and hate to see bad movie versions because it can turn people off to the book.

F Paul Wilson's the Keep is one of the best horror novels of all time, but the movie? Ugh...but the director had an original three hour version and he was told to lop a third off, so who knows what it could have been?

The rare cases where the movie is better is usually the result of the book being a bit bloated and needing to be trimmed down.

Is there a Director's Cut that has all 3 hours available?

 

[gunhilltrain]

I generally enjoy the books more and hate to see bad movie versions because it can turn people off to the book.

F Paul Wilson's the Keep is one of the best horror novels of all time, but the movie? Ugh...but the director had an original three hour version and he was told to lop a third off, so who knows what it could have been?

Studio versus director problems are common, and a number of movies have been cut like that. Sometimes it is done based on the opinions of preview audiences who don't know that their preferences will be used to reshape a preliminary cut of of film. See Julie Salamon's The Devil's Candy for a description of how that was done to Brian De Palma's Bonfire of the Vanities.

 

[RetroFan]

Nothing can be 'bad' If someone, somewhere likes it. You like what you like. End of story. There is no council of elders, who objectively classify things.

If you watch a not so great film with someone you fancy and maybe get a brief hug or a peck on the cheek afterwards, that film might be remembered as one of your favourites.

I understand your point of view, but if you watched just 5 minutes of 'The Star Wars Holiday Special' from 1978 or 'Cats' from 2019; or 5 minutes of the 2011 Adam Sandler comedy 'Jack and Jill' (only from the point Jill appears, before we see Jill the movie is more of a mediocre Sandler comedy than a total train-wreck) you might change your mind.

 

[lucy_sometimes]

Apart from 'Happy Gilmore', every Sandler film is irritating dross, but snuggled up with someone you like very much, you might forget the wooden acting. Maybe you'll be sucking face & the memory will be "The night we watched that Sandler movie" not the shitty film itself.

 

[MillieDynamite]

The first three Billy Jack movies, Born Losers, Billy Jack, and The Trial of Billy Jack... my favorite is Born Losers! St. Elsewhere isn't really a good show, but I loved it.