'Bad' Movies, TV Shows, Books Etc. You Like

[lovecraft68]

The rare cases where the movie is better is usually the result of the book being a bit bloated and needing to be trimmed down.

Is there a Director's Cut that has all 3 hours available?

I don't believe there is one out there.

I think the best example of the movie being much better is Jaws. The book was a lot more boring. Hooper was an asshole who was screwing Brody's wife-but he does die in the book-and the shark dies anti-climactically by biting into a piece of meet with a wire in it under water.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Oxygen tanks don't blow up if shot; they just leak air very, very quickly. Even scuba tanks (which aren't pure oxygen) don't blow up, but they look cool.

I don't believe there is one out there.

I think the best example of the movie being much better is Jaws. The book was a lot more boring. Hooper was an asshole who was screwing Brody's wife-but he does die in the book-and the shark dies anti-climactically by biting into a piece of meet with a wire in it under water.

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't believe there is one out there.

I think the best example of the movie being much better is Jaws. The book was a lot more boring. Hooper was an asshole who was screwing Brody's wife-but he does die in the book-and the shark dies anti-climactically by biting into a piece of meet with a wire in it under water.

I'd rank Jaws number 2 on that list. I totally agree with you about the movie being much better, but an even better example is The Godfather. The book is an enjoyable potboiler, with some trashy elements. The movie is one of the best movies ever, a masterpiece.

Jaws is an incredibly good suspense movie, though. It holds up well even today. The opening scene, the Indianapolis monologue, it's so masterful. Much better than the book. The whole Hooper screwing the wife thing in the book was gratuitous, and Spielberg obviously understood that.

 

[MillieDynamite]

But sex sells!

I'd rank Jaws number 2 on that list. I totally agree with you about the movie being much better, but an even better example is The Godfather. The book is an enjoyable potboiler, with some trashy elements. The movie is one of the best movies ever, a masterpiece.

Jaws is an incredibly good suspense movie, though. It holds up well even today. The opening scene, the Indianapolis monologue, it's so masterful. Much better than the book. The whole Hooper screwing the wife thing in the book was gratuitous, and Spielberg obviously understood that.

 

[SimonDoom]

Oxygen tanks don't blow up if shot; they just leak air very, very quickly. Even scuba tanks (which aren't pure oxygen) don't blow up, but they look cool.

An episode of Mythbusters devoted itself to exposing this myth and others about sharks. Very entertaining. You're absolutely right; the "oxygen tank as bomb" thing was completely fake. It was cinematically effective, though!

 

[RetroFan]

Apart from 'Happy Gilmore', every Sandler film is irritating dross, but snuggled up with someone you like very much, you might forget the wooden acting. Maybe you'll be sucking face & the memory will be "The night we watched that Sandler movie" not the shitty film itself.

I can find at least one positive thing in every Adam Sandler movie I've seen, or can simply say that it wasn't my thing, with the exception of Jack and Jill. It really is that bad. And everyone else I know who has had the misfortune to see it hated it too. Thirteen years after its release, it still finds its way into the Top 10 lists of bad movies online.

However on the Rotten Tomatoes website, Jack and Jill amazingly doesn't have a 0 percent rating, proving out there somewhere and at some time a professional critic actually liked it. And even more amazing, I saw an online article last year about how we should reassess our opinions on some 'bad' movies made years later and one of these was Jack and Jill, which praised Adam Sandler for creating a movie so bad and fooling the audience in the process. Yet I get the impression that the movie wasn't made to be deliberately bad and to antagonize people or even 'So Bad It's Good', unlike Tom Green's 'Freddy Got Fingered' which would qualify on both counts as it had some entertainment value.

 

[gunhilltrain]

An episode of Mythbusters devoted itself to exposing this myth and others about sharks. Very entertaining. You're absolutely right; the "oxygen tank as bomb" thing was completely fake. It was cinematically effective, though!

Didn't those Mythbuster guys have day jobs as movie prop makers? They had a lot of technical knowledge plus skills with tools. They obtained a real bus when they did their Speed analysis.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I'd rank Jaws number 2 on that list. I totally agree with you about the movie being much better, but an even better example is The Godfather. The book is an enjoyable potboiler, with some trashy elements. The movie is one of the best movies ever, a masterpiece.

Coppola provided the movie making skills and Puzo provided the story telling skills. When Coppola is let loose on his own, he loses direction. (Literally?) Megalopolis looks like the final one. Anyone seen that?

 

[MillieDynamite]

Now shoot an aerosol can, and depending on what's in it, you might get a massive, big bada boom.

An episode of Mythbusters devoted itself to exposing this myth and others about sharks. Very entertaining. You're absolutely right; the "oxygen tank as bomb" thing was completely fake. It was cinematically effective, though!

 

[NoTalentHack]

Apart from 'Happy Gilmore', every Sandler film is irritating dross, but snuggled up with someone you like very much, you might forget the wooden acting. Maybe you'll be sucking face & the memory will be "The night we watched that Sandler movie" not the shitty film itself.

Yeah, but you're talking about the experience, not the film. Ed Wood movies are hilarious in large crowds or with something like an MST3K crew riffing on them. But they are, in every way that matters, bad movies: poorly plotted, scripted, acted, etc. I'm all about not yucking someone else's yum, but this isn't a question of the notion of whether the term "guilty pleasure" should exist. It's acknowledging that, yes, there are things that are well made and things that aren't, and, while we can dither on which is which, pretending that the Godfather and Plan 9 From Outer Space are both "good" is silly.

 

[jaF0]

Didn't those Mythbuster guys have day jobs as movie prop makers? They had a lot of technical knowledge plus skills with tools. They obtained a real bus when they did their Speed analysis.

Those fools lost me early on when they did a test fully the wrong way and came to a bad, inaccurate conclusion.

 

[lucy_sometimes]

Yeah, but you're talking about the experience, not the film. Ed Wood movies are hilarious in large crowds or with something like an MST3K crew riffing on them. But they are, in every way that matters, bad movies: poorly plotted, scripted, acted, etc. I'm all about not yucking someone else's yum, but this isn't a question of the notion of whether the term "guilty pleasure" should exist. It's acknowledging that, yes, there are things that are well made and things that aren't, and, while we can dither on which is which, pretending that the Godfather and Plan 9 From Outer Space are both "good" is silly.

I agree with your opinion from a technical viewpoint. There's a reason why some films are loved by most and others ridiculed.

I merely said that other factors can affect our enjoyment of anything. If we think that we might get laid, we will snuggle up & watch 'Sex and the City', but must remain silent & not snigger at the stupidity. I have watched a couple of episodes and would say that the contempt that the main actresses felt for each other is palpable.

 

[SimonDoom]

Yeah, but you're talking about the experience, not the film. Ed Wood movies are hilarious in large crowds or with something like an MST3K crew riffing on them. But they are, in every way that matters, bad movies: poorly plotted, scripted, acted, etc. I'm all about not yucking someone else's yum, but this isn't a question of the notion of whether the term "guilty pleasure" should exist. It's acknowledging that, yes, there are things that are well made and things that aren't, and, while we can dither on which is which, pretending that the Godfather and Plan 9 From Outer Space are both "good" is silly.

Ed Wood movies fall into the category of being "so terribly made that they're enjoyable." I would describe The Room and Birdemic that way. The directors had no idea what they were doing and the results were unintentionally hilarious.

A completely different type of "bad" movie is the super-cheesy big budget movie that isn't "good" because it's so schlocky, but it hits the right buttons to be enjoyable. That's the category I put Roadhouse in. I'd characterize the Schwarzeneggar film Commando that way, or the 80s Russian invasion classic Red Dawn. It's the kind of movie you watch and think, "This is totally stupid, but I'm having fun watching it."

I would agree that it's silly to try to argue that either of these types of movies is "good" in the way that really good films are good, but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy them.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Those fools lost me early on when they did a test fully the wrong way and came to a bad, inaccurate conclusion.

There are plenty of real-world situations to examine.

I once almost got wiped-out by a wrong-way driver, but he (?) came down in the adjacent lane. How drunk do you have to be do something like that?

 

[gunhilltrain]

Now shoot an aerosol can, and depending on what's in it, you might get a massive, big bada boom.

There's nothing like real-world testing.

This guy seems to have an interesting hobby as well as being a bit lax about safety measures.

 

[alohadave]

The Last Action Hero movie was panned but I thought it was a great spoof on action movies.

The is a great movie. I think too many people missed that it was a parody/satire of Hollywood action movies.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Lair of the White Worm is a terrible book and a worse movie, and yet, I liked them in a guilty-as-sin sort of way. Somewhere, I have a different take on this story and made it what it should have been, just another fucking vampire tale, but I don't think I ever finished it.

 

[StillStunned]

I used to watch "Big Time Rush". Used to, as in a few years ago. Of my own volition.

Now everyone's wondering whether my jokes about being a perky 21-year-old woman might actually be serious...

 

[Wifetheif]

My favorite bad movie is "Blood Freak" the only pro-Jesus, anti-drug, slasher film featuring a wereturkey! Yep, our hero turns into a giant, blood thirsty turkey! The director serves as occasional on screen Greek chorus narrator while chain smoking and occasionally keeps the cameras running while he hacks up a lung. The protagonist looks like Elvis. It's NOT a Christian film it's just scripted like one, yet full of profanity, the heroine's very delectable bare butt, and general weirdness. You'll never look at Thanksgiving the same way ever again!

 

[soflabbwlvr]

Previously mentioned but worthy of more attention, I thoroughly enjoy Zach Snyder's "Sucker Punch." It has a great cast, over the top action scenes, a tremendous soundtrack, and an incomprehensible plot. I watch it every time I encounter it.

 

[NoTalentHack]

Previously mentioned but worthy of more attention, I thoroughly enjoy Zach Snyder's "Sucker Punch." It has a great cast, over the top action scenes, a tremendous soundtrack, and an incomprehensible plot. I watch it every time I encounter it.

Ah, so Zack Snyder's Anything, then.

 

[ruddygore]

One from my youth.

 

[billrokra]

Lair of the White Worm is a terrible book and a worse movie, and yet, I liked them in a guilty-as-sin sort of way. Somewhere, I have a different take on this story and made it what it should have been, just another fucking vampire tale, but I don't think I ever finished it.

I recall the original novel as being the most racist book I'd ever read in my life. I cannot believe it's by the writer of something as brilliant as Dracula, but I suppose that's what tertiary syphilis does to your writing abilities. The film is truly bonkers - Ken Russell at his Ken Russellest - with Peter Capaldi somehow saving the day by playing the bagpipes!

 

[MillieDynamite]

Yes, it was racist in the extrem. But I take that as product of the time. STDs fuck with you bad! Even the Sherlock Holmes stories had racism in them. And Agatha Christie had some cherry picked racist shit in her work. But such works were the product of their time. It was filled with pacive racism, bigotry, and misogynism. But then the Bible is the most misogynistic book every other than the Koran, that is.

I recall the original novel as being the most racist book I'd ever read in my life. I cannot believe it's by the writer of something as brilliant as Dracula, but I suppose that's what tertiary syphilis does to your writing abilities. The film is truly bonkers - Ken Russell at his Ken Russellest - with Peter Capaldi somehow saving the day by playing the bagpipes!

 

[musicfan0u812]

The Last Action Hero movie was panned but I thought it was a great spoof on action movies.

So Last Action Hero, when I saw it, I wasn't a big fan, love the soundtrack. The cool thing was when I watched it I was in NYC and to my surprise I was watching the movie in the theater they shot it in.