Disappointments

[SydneyBlake]

Personally I am not sure I would ever give somebody a 1 or a 2, and if I gave them a 3, it would be because it was a badly written story in a genre I tend to read and not because of content.

As for comments, I wouldn't give a negative public comment. I might send the writer private feedback on how I think they could improve their style.

Me, too. As for comments, I won't say I never leave a negative comment, but I will try to be constructive with my criticism.

I accidentally 1-bombed one of my favorite authors once because I was still learning to use my iPhone. I hope that vote was eventually swept by the bots. *Sorry!* (No, it wasn't you, LC.)

 

[lovecraft68]

Me, too. As for comments, I won't say I never leave a negative comment, but I will try to be constructive with my criticism.

I accidentally 1-bombed one of my favorite authors once because I was still learning to use my iPhone. I hope that vote was eventually swept by the bots. *Sorry!* (No, it wasn't you, LC.)

I know you would have owned up if it was. Truist me I know who my personal troll is.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

Personally I am not sure I would ever give somebody a 1 or a 2, and if I gave them a 3, it would be because it was a badly written story in a genre I tend to read and not because of content.

As for comments, I wouldn't give a negative public comment. I might send the writer private feedback on how I think they could improve their style.

There are some people who shouldn't be writing---not even e-mail!

They're the ones who get my ones.

 

[estragon]

Back to the Point

Disappointed that "Reading the Defense" is over. A great series by a very talented writer making her debut. Impressive start. Hoping for many more good stories from Ilmonamour.

 

[estragon]

And the end of DG Hear's "Is He Guilty?" series. Lots of loose ends to keep the reader guessing. Sequel, maybe?

 

[estragon]

Tantricjim's Vortex expresses an interesting concept; it's a prequel to a Loving Wives story, and it has pace, never drags. But it demands more credulity than I can summon. He's written better than this before, and I am sure he will write better another time.

 

[lovecraft68]

Estragon, I apologize for 'jacking' your thread with the following post, but seeing as it is titled "Disappointments" I would like to share one.

Back in January Lit held the nominations for their 12th annual awards. 2010 was my first year writing and I was very excited to see one of my characters nominated for Sexiest Male.

the rules are that the top 4 nominees go into the finals. A quick count and my guy actually was number 1 so I would definitely be in the final voting. I highly doubt I will win as I am up against the characters of a very popular author but was still excited.

They originally said the final voting would start on 4/1 then 4/15, then 5/1 then 6/1 now nothing.

I have been told that they have to do all of last years monthly winners first. In the June they announced November 2010 winners, but here we are in August and they have not done December yet.

In the meantime however we have had the Valentines Day contest, Earth Day contest, Nude Day, and now the Summer Loving contest. My whole point is why bother at this point?

Someone who told me they were involved in the 11th annual awards said that by the time they finally announce the voting hardly anyone votes because everyone has forgotten about it and nobody cares anymore.

Twice I have looked like an idiot mentioning in an authors note to look for the thread if my readers want to vote for me and the thread never shows up. So what is the point at this point? Why have a contest that you are going to basically just keep stalling, while running endless theme contests that people don;t even want to post to anymore because of the ridiculous trolling and won by the same handful of authors?

Sorry just needed to vent hope you don't mind.

 

[SydneyBlake]

I don't participate in the contests because I don't have time, but I did not realize there was this kind of problem. Truly disappointing!

 

[Darkniciad]

Multiple winners of themed contests ( Including one multi-author name )

Rumple Foreskin (2)
sack (2)
cloudy (2)
i_love_u_in_me (2)
Rhys (2)
SpiceyAngel (2)
sachiaiko (2)
Unsung Muse (2)
WhiteWave48 (2)
m_storyman_x (2)
Tx Tall Tales (2)
ShyChiWriter (2)
oggbashan (3)
LesLumens (3)
Alex De Kok (3)
Transverse (3)
Aurora Black (3)
dr_mabeuse (4)
ABSTRUSE (4)
davidwatts (4)
TxRad (4)
Fusionnee (**)

And the rest of the winners.

impressive
Albatross
mlyn
Couture
Holi Marie
Lustylovers
TheScribe
one_susie_q
Brandy Chase
D Fiant
BadBoyBobbie
Route66Girl
Starlight
PierceStreet
masterhypnotist
freejack
henlar
*Catbabe*
Green_Gem
puppop
Gussie
Cat5
sarahhh
DarkLit
Coleen Thomas
Lauren.Hynde
Gaucho
ronde
DingusGuy
Route66Girl
rougechapeau
English Lady
Lady in Disguise
pixiesjuice
Elizabetht
SSobotkaJr
perdita
book_man_o3
carsonshepherd
brightlyiburn
Lucifer_Carroll
Softouch911
mcfbridge
McKenna
Kaishaku
sophia jane
Alicia Night Orchid
rgraham666
Penelope Street
Daniellekitten
Dynamite Jack
CrossCountryLover
cookiejar
aristicannonymity
3113
SelenaKittyn
elfin_odalisque
lilredjammies
kbate
ohida
HelenofTroy
blondiesheart
BlewWater69
Niervanadragones
JoeDreamer
Munachi
RoughRider007
Hornyman69WithU
glynndah
midwestgent
slyc_willie
Varian P
Five_Eight
MagicaPratica
Ken Nitsua
JakeRivers
EmeliaBell
ZuzusPetals
softcaress
starrkers
PJ526
WatchingCloud
HarryPerry
alexxxis
Pelaam
loganforester
tickledkitty
MarshAlien
GB_Marvel
MrKitty
KillerRomance
NickyFaulkes
manyeyedhydra
MistressLynn
SexyBetelgeuse
wantsomefun1951
mia_erotica
eroticpen69
TheWitcher
humminbean
Cedar_Needle
Jaymal
geronimo_appleby
sirreadsalot10
harding
LoveBird1929
WickedWendyDru
MugsyB
Firebrain
DG Hear
allusive1
sleeplessgurl
PennLady
D_Lynn
LunaEroticaMystica

Take a browse and see how many contests the multi-winners entered, but didn't place in. 40 entries to 3 wins, for example.

"The same people win every time!" thing is a fallacy.

 

[lovecraft68]

Multiple winners of themed contests ( Including one multi-author name )

Rumple Foreskin (2)
sack (2)
cloudy (2)
i_love_u_in_me (2)
Rhys (2)
SpiceyAngel (2)
sachiaiko (2)
Unsung Muse (2)
WhiteWave48 (2)
m_storyman_x (2)
Tx Tall Tales (2)
ShyChiWriter (2)
oggbashan (3)
LesLumens (3)
Alex De Kok (3)
Transverse (3)
Aurora Black (3)
dr_mabeuse (4)
ABSTRUSE (4)
davidwatts (4)
TxRad (4)
Fusionnee (**)

And the rest of the winners.

Albatross
mlyn
Couture
Holi Marie
Lustylovers
TheScribe
one_susie_q
Brandy Chase
D Fiant
BadBoyBobbie
Route66Girl
Starlight
PierceStreet
masterhypnotist
freejack
henlar
*Catbabe*
Green_Gem
puppop
Gussie
Cat5
sarahhh
DarkLit
Coleen Thomas
Lauren.Hynde
Gaucho
ronde
DingusGuy
Route66Girl
rougechapeau
English Lady
Lady in Disguise
pixiesjuice
Elizabetht
SSobotkaJr
perdita
book_man_o3
carsonshepherd
brightlyiburn
Lucifer_Carroll
Softouch911
mcfbridge
McKenna
Kaishaku
sophia jane
Alicia Night Orchid
impressive
rgraham666
Penelope Street
Daniellekitten
Dynamite Jack
CrossCountryLover
cookiejar
aristicannonymity
3113
SelenaKittyn
elfin_odalisque
lilredjammies
kbate
ohida
HelenofTroy
blondiesheart
BlewWater69
Niervanadragones
JoeDreamer
Munachi
RoughRider007
Hornyman69WithU
glynndah
midwestgent
slyc_willie
Varian P
Five_Eight
MagicaPratica
Ken Nitsua
JakeRivers
EmeliaBell
ZuzusPetals
softcaress
starrkers
PJ526
WatchingCloud
HarryPerry
alexxxis
Pelaam
loganforester
tickledkitty
MarshAlien
GB_Marvel
MrKitty
KillerRomance
NickyFaulkes
manyeyedhydra
MistressLynn
SexyBetelgeuse
wantsomefun1951
mia_erotica
eroticpen69
TheWitcher
humminbean
Cedar_Needle
Jaymal
geronimo_appleby
sirreadsalot10
harding
LoveBird1929
WickedWendyDru
MugsyB
Firebrain
DG Hear
allusive1
sleeplessgurl
PennLady
D_Lynn
LunaEroticaMystica

Take a browse and see how many contests the multi-winners entered, but didn't place in. 40 entries to 3 wins, for example.

"The same people win every time!" thing is a fallacy.

Said it before, will say it again.

Dude you really need a life. You have a random statistic program there?

 

[Darkniciad]

Said it before, will say it again.

Dude you really need a life. You have a random statistic program there?

It doesn't take all that long when you have knowledge of web coding that does all the work for you, and when someone is perpetuating lies, it's well worth the minimal effort to disprove such ridiculous assertions with facts.

 

[PennLady]

I don't participate in the contests because I don't have time, but I did not realize there was this kind of problem. Truly disappointing!

I won the Oct 2009 Readers' monthly award, I think, for Ch 2 of Nothing Gets Through, but they didn't post those results until like July 2010. The themed contests seem to be dealt with efficiently, but the monthly and annual are quite behind and chaotic.

I admit it's always puzzled me b/c it seems like it would be easy enough (for someone with the know-how) to simply make a program, put in the parameters, and run it and find out who wins.

 

[Darkniciad]

I won the Oct 2009 Readers' monthly award, I think, for Ch 2 of Nothing Gets Through, but they didn't post those results until like July 2010. The themed contests seem to be dealt with efficiently, but the monthly and annual are quite behind and chaotic.

I admit it's always puzzled me b/c it seems like it would be easy enough (for someone with the know-how) to simply make a program, put in the parameters, and run it and find out who wins.

Could be any number of things. The sheer volume of stories to be dealt with ( probably about 1800 per month ) Accounting ( Keep in mind that there's tax law to deal with every time they hand out a prize ) And just plain old once you get behind, it's hard as hell to catch up. The monthly and yearly contests have been later and later every year. It's a snowball effect that would probably require a long period of dedicated time to get on top of.

Manu is also working on a lot of the backend of the site, as evidenced by the onslaught of recent changes and new features to modernize the site. The nuts and bolts of the site is more important in the long run than the speed of determining winners, which is a programming task.

It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.

 

[SydneyBlake]

It doesn't take all that long when you have knowledge of web coding that does all the work for you,

That sounds like a volunteer to me.

 

[PennLady]

Could be any number of things. The sheer volume of stories to be dealt with ( probably about 1800 per month ) Accounting ( Keep in mind that there's tax law to deal with every time they hand out a prize ) And just plain old once you get behind, it's hard as hell to catch up. The monthly and yearly contests have been later and later every year. It's a snowball effect that would probably require a long period of dedicated time to get on top of.

Manu is also working on a lot of the backend of the site, as evidenced by the onslaught of recent changes and new features to modernize the site. The nuts and bolts of the site is more important in the long run than the speed of determining winners, which is a programming task.

It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I should note I'm not in fact complaining, just observing. I'd think that the primary reason is simply falling behind. Falling behind in anything makes it that much harder to catch up. I thought they were on track for a while this year, actually, but ah well.

 

[lovecraft68]

I should note I'm not in fact complaining, just observing. I'd think that the primary reason is simply falling behind. Falling behind in anything makes it that much harder to catch up. I thought they were on track for a while this year, actually, but ah well.

No we wouldn't want to complain. Whenever someone complains it's "well it is a free site" "no one says you have to be here" etc...

Well see I disagree. Here is how I look at it; it's like voting. If you are a registered voter in this country, a contributor to the system you have the right to complain. If you don't vote then shut up because you have nothing to say about anything.

yes this is a free site, they don;t charge us to write here and we in turn do not get paid. However every writer here is one of the reasons that people come here. Sure some come for the personals and picture threads and maybe some porn links but the big draw of lit is the stories without the stories no lit.

Of course they wouldn't miss me or any other single author if they left, but point is we contribute the material that keeps people visiting this site, we do have right to complain or voice an opinion, doesn't mean they have to listen but we have the right.

My point here is that why bother starting something you know you don;t have the time for? Either that or bump one of the theme contests to catch up. Earth day, nude day, summer loving are close together one could go.

I also don't know the sticking point with the annual awards people voted all they need to do is tally (which someone like Dark could do in two minutes flat) and put up a voting thread, tally again and tadaa! I mean I don;t even know what the prize is or could care less, itwas just the point of wow and then ummm okay....

Whatever I was simply expressing disappointment is all, not calling for a mutiny, but to some people it's "shhhh" Good thing that American history is full of complainers, or else we would still be paying taxes to the British.

 

[Darkniciad]

The annual awards can't begin until all the monthly awards are announced.

No big mystery there.

Since none of us know how the backend of the site is organized, other than speculation based upon available information and standard practices, there's no way of knowing how much time and effort is required to tally the results of contests.

There's a difference between complaining and complaining about things that obviously aren't happening -- if you bother to look for the facts, rather than accepting the rantings of a delusional fraud at face value and jumping on the crazy train with him, that is.

 

[lovecraft68]

The annual awards can't begin until all the monthly awards are announced.

No big mystery there.

Since none of us know how the backend of the site is organized, other than speculation based upon available information and standard practices, there's no way of knowing how much time and effort is required to tally the results of contests.

There's a difference between complaining and complaining about things that obviously aren't happening -- if you bother to look for the facts, rather than accepting the rantings of a delusional fraud at face value and jumping on the crazy train with him, that is.

I'm delusional for being disappointed in something that was supposed to happen four months ago, wow I really should hop on the crazy train. The nerve, but I won't be alone I'm sure you'll be there, behind the caboose kissing it like you do any other ass.

 

[Darkniciad]

You perhaps might notice that the only thing I addressed in your complaint is the following:

won by the same handful of authors?

The evidence doesn't support your conclusion. It, along with several other conspiracy theories you've spouted off of late does perfectly coincide with the rantings of an obviously delusional fraud.

There's also a difference between kissing ass and pointing out the obvious to the oblivious.

Much like the festering boil known as scouries, your wild accusations, unsupported claims, and other little nuggets tossed in with the complaints makes them rather difficult for people to support, lest they be associated with the unsavory elements as well.

The mess with the monthly and annual contest most certainly should be straightened out. Laurel has said herself that they were created for authors, and it's fairly universal that we're unhappy with the long delays. Other complaints have varied levels of support, but that one is universal.

Unfortunately, with champions like you and scouries, there's little chance of that agreement ever having a serious airing.

 

[estragon]

Oy

for our UK and Commonwealth cousins, that's a Yiddish-American expression of angst, not your way of saying "Yo!"

I want to remove a previous post, or rather, amend it. Tantricjim explained the basis for his story The Vortex in a private e-mail, and I agree: truth is stranger than fiction. So I withdraw my comments on the plot.

As for the contest problems, as I neither enter, nor would stand the slightest chance of winning if I did in fact enter, any contest, I don't care.

As for the name-calling and blackguarding, I'm sick of it. Or as our Francophone cousins would say, J'en ai plein! In short, grow up! You may be free to say anything you like, but that is no reason to do so. Real disappointment--good writers, editors and commentators denigrating one another.

Yes, Lit exists in large measure because of the authors who post here. So go post, and don't give a raw red rusty fuck whether you win or not.

 

[topcattopone]

I have just read this thread for the first time. On about page two, someone said "Don't start a story you can't finish" I guess that works for some people, but in my case whilst I have a goal to tell the story, I often don't know what is going to happen on the next page! Perhaps you will say it shows in my writing, if that meets with other's approval that's fine. If it does not warrant approval from some people, that's fine too. My primary objective in writing how and what I do is for my own entertainment.

I am sure that this must apply to other writers.

 

[sr71plt]

I have just read this thread for the first time. On about page two, someone said "Don't start a story you can't finish" I guess that works for some people, but in my case whilst I have a goal to tell the story, I often don't know what is going to happen on the next page! Perhaps you will say it shows in my writing, if that meets with other's approval that's fine. If it does not warrant approval from some people, that's fine too. My primary objective in writing how and what I do is for my own entertainment.

I am sure that this must apply to other writers.

Not starting a story you can't finished and not knowing what will happen before you finish a story you've started are two different concepts.

 

[topcattopone]

sr71plt

Exactly! In perhaps an inept way, I was comparing the two and saying which one I preferred. Each to his own.

 

[estragon]

Returning to the subject of this thread, I voice disappointment that my latest story, Ch 3 of A New Birth of Freedom, dropped like a stone. 520 views, no comments and a 4.0 rating on 2 votes. However, knowing that the voting system is arbitrary, I press on with Ch 4.

 

[estragon]

Definitely in keeping with the foregoing, "Little Dicky", my first published fetish story, was torpedoed on leaving harbor. Not one comment out of 4500 post-publication views, but some eight readers collectively voted the story a 2.67. Luckily for me, I don't depend upon writing fiction for my livelihood. Though such a reception hurts at first, I press on regardless.