Disappointments

[El Folo]

Haha, no, he seems to be doing fine on his own.

Alllllll byyyyyyyyyy, my looooonnnneeesommmmmme....*plays piano wistfully, looking at night sky*

 

[PennLady]

Alllllll byyyyyyyyyy, my looooonnnneeesommmmmme....*plays piano wistfully, looking at night sky*

Do you take requests?

 

[El Folo]

Do you take requests?

If that request is Billy Joel's "Piano Man", then sometimes.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

Anything writing, photos, artwork, anything at all that a person is passionate about that gets put up on a public site is up for critique invited or not. JUst the way it is.

And The Pilot seems to agree with this statement---as long as we aren't talking about stories, because he sure does post a lot of uninvited critiques.

 

[estragon]

I'd think you have the attention span of a gerbil if I didn't know you were just evading the issue so that you didn't have to acknowledge your bad behavior. No, the issue is not how good a writer you are--and never has been--it's your arrogance and borishness of dumping on the stories of other writers in public forums (and in private for that matter) when they haven't asked for you to improve their writing (although you've already admitted you have no expertise to do so anyway). This is a reading site, not a site where folks only post stories to get development help.

I think it's borish for anyone to be the vigilante, unsolicited "instructor" on stories here. Most of those posting stories here aren't asking for development help. They have the right to expect you--and anyone else--to just leave them the hell alone on that. If they want development help, they'll ask for it directly in this forum.

But you are obviously too intent on asserting your supposed superiority over other writers here to even acknowledge what the issue is. I can't really believe you are too dense to have gotten the real point.

Obviously, though, you have missed the twice weekly threads started here by writers who are incensed at having their stories dumped on with unsolicited negative comment just as you are doing.

Just as you are too dense to answer a simple question. Did you read my story, the one you claim proves I have no right to an opinion?

 

[sr71plt]

Just as you are too dense to answer a simple question. Did you read my story, the one you claim proves I have no right to an opinion?

No, because your question has no relevance to the point I was pursuing.

You can throw all the flak you want to up in the air on this issue; I'm not biting.

 

[estragon]

No, because your question has no relevance to the point I was pursuing.

You can throw all the flak you want to up in the air on this issue; I'm not biting.

Q.E.D.

 

[sr71plt]

Your "it's all about me" and "I'll do it because I can" attitude has been clearly stated and demonstrated by you here on this thread. That's fine. I'll just index this and refer folks to this thread who post complaints to the forum--about twice a week--about unsolicited vigilante negative comment on their stories. You obviously are going to continue to be borish about this.

 

[estragon]

By All Means

Welcome to all.

 

[lovecraft68]

Your "it's all about me"

Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black! An arrogant delusional narcissist accusing someone else of it being all about them.

I can see where that would upset you, after all if it's all about someone else then it can't be about you now can it?

If this site can tolerate your lying and your bullying and your pettiness it can certainly tolerate this thread. If this thread upsets you so much just leave it. Can't do that though can you? That would mean you could not have the last word.

Why don't you do what you have done your entire life? Go running to someone inauthority and whine like a bitch.

"Ohhh! Ohhh! Mod!!! Mod!!! This thread offends me!! Ohhh!! I am offended!! Oh please do something! I promise to lick your ass even more!

Fucking Pathetic.

 

[El Folo]

God I love the internet.

 

[kinkosity]

Well, I think it's a better idea to actually read the two stories you're comparing rather going off a rating system. Going "well this one has a better rating, so it's better!" is juvenille. That said, I did a brief skimming of both estragon's and Sagacious21's stories. Though, there is room for improvement for both - nothing completely terrible, really, just a few suggestions I'd make and, really, when isn't there room for improvement? - it's my personal opinion that estragon's is better written. That doesn't mean Sagacious21's is terrible, but estragon's is a bit more engaging.

Just my two cents. =)

 

[sr71plt]

Well, I think it's a better idea to actually read the two stories you're comparing rather going off a rating system. Going "well this one has a better rating, so it's better!" is juvenille. That said, I did a brief skimming of both estragon's and Sagacious21's stories. Though, there is room for improvement for both - nothing completely terrible, really, just a few suggestions I'd make and, really, when isn't there room for improvement? - it's my personal opinion that estragon's is better written. That doesn't mean Sagacious21's is terrible, but estragon's is a bit more engaging.

Just my two cents. =)

And you too ignore the point of my objections.

 

[kinkosity]

And you too ignore the point of my objections.

I don't care about your objections, personally. I just found it silly to compare two stories based on scores. That's an excuse kids on YouTube use when they have a petty reason to dislike a video or a user.

 

[sr71plt]

I don't care about your objections, personally. I just found it silly to compare two stories based on scores. That's an excuse kids on YouTube use when they have a petty reason to dislike a video or a user.

I think avoiding the central argument and going off on majoring in the minors is pretty silly too. So, I guess we can both enjoy the silliness of it.

 

[sr71plt]

Well, I think it's a better idea to actually read the two stories you're comparing rather going off a rating system. Going "well this one has a better rating, so it's better!" is juvenille. That said, I did a brief skimming of both estragon's and Sagacious21's stories. Though, there is room for improvement for both - nothing completely terrible, really, just a few suggestions I'd make and, really, when isn't there room for improvement? - it's my personal opinion that estragon's is better written. That doesn't mean Sagacious21's is terrible, but estragon's is a bit more engaging.

Just my two cents. =)

To get back to the point, You have ignored:

A. The paragraph in which I explain the likelihood of why estragon has low vote scores., and

B. That Sagacious21 hasn't posted a borish, negative, on-the-forum-public comment on estragon's stories (although estragon has done so on Sagacious21's and other writers' work).

So, back on point.

 

[kinkosity]

To get back to the point, You have ignored:

A. The paragraph in which I explain the likelihood of why estragon has low vote scores., and

B. That Sagacious21 hasn't posted a borish, negative, on-the-forum-public comment on estragon's stories (although estragon has done so on Sagacious21's and other writers' work).

So, back on point.

A. It doesn't take rocket science to realize that - gasp! - some people will use the rating system to react to someone who gave them negative feedback. There's still no point in comparing two works by the points, unless you were just trying to point out that estragon has potential down-votes from oh-so bitter victims and Sagacious has a potload of people who like him? Either way, still a moot point.

B. Receiving negative - or "boorish" - feedback of some kind when you post your work in a public spot is, well, the dangers of posting it in public. Either the writers take a review and improve or their writing is a fun hobby and they shouldn't be arsed enough to care what kind of reviews it gets. Or it's someone who cannot take negative feedback - but buttstroking is A-OK, cause, goshdarnit, I'm a great writer and only deserve positive feedback! - when it's a natural part of the public world of writing to get both kinds of feedback.

If someones writes solely for entertainment, then why would they care who thinks well or badly of their work?

 

[sr71plt]

Receiving negative - or "boorish" - feedback of some kind when you post your work in a public spot is, well, the dangers of posting it in public.

Doesn't mean it should be hush hushed. Borishness is worthy of the scorn.

 

[kinkosity]

Doesn't mean it should be hush hushed. Borishness is worthy of the scorn.

You do realize boor is spelled with two o's, right? No offense, it grates on my nerves when someone chooses to insult another, but doesn't know how to properly spell the insult. It just seems rude and clumsy or boorish.

Can something really be mum if it's on a public forum? Nope. A writer can be alerted to the review of their work and then they can choose what to do about it. As I said before, either they wish to improve their work and will take the suggestions in the review to heart; they won't care whether it's good or bad, because they wrote it for entertainment's sakes; or they will flip out, because how dare someone write a bad review of their godly work!

Reiterated: they post it in public, they should be prepared for feedback and opinions of various natures.

 

[sr71plt]

You do realize boor is spelled with two o's, right? No offense, it grates on my nerves when someone chooses to insult another, but doesn't know how to properly spell the insult. It just seems rude and clumsy or boorish.

Can something really be mum if it's on a public forum? Nope. A writer can be alerted to the review of their work and then they can choose what to do about it. As I said before, either they wish to improve their work and will take the suggestions in the review to heart; they won't care whether it's good or bad, because they wrote it for entertainment's sakes; or they will flip out, because how dare someone write a bad review of their godly work!

Reiterated: they post it in public, they should be prepared for feedback and opinions of various natures.

Oh, you're absolutely right (but only on the spelling). Thanks. I can't spell worth spit. I look almost everything up, but didn't on this.

Beyond that, I obviously don't agree with you, and have no intention of going another round on this. When writers complain about booooorish unsolicited negative comment slapped on their stories and on this forum, I'll just refer them to this thread to see that there are folks who will continue to do that "because they can."

I don't believe in arrogant vigilante public criticism on a story site not designated as a writing critique site. There we obviously disagree, so I guess I think you are boooorish about it too. No need to discuss it further. I doubt either one of us is going to slit our wrists over disagreeing.

 

[kinkosity]

Oh, you're absolutely right (but only on the spelling). Thanks. I can't spell worth spit. I look almost everything up, but didn't on this.

Beyond that, I obviously don't agree with you, and have no intention of going another round on this. When writers complain about booooorish unsolicited negative comment slapped on their stories and on this forum, I'll just refer them to this thread to see that there are folks who will continue to do that "because they can."

I don't believe in arrogant vigilante public criticism on a story site not designated as a writing critique site. There we obviously disagree, so I guess I think you are boooorish about it too. No need to discuss it further. I doubt either one of us is going to slit our wrists over disagreeing.

Firefox helps with spelling if you're interested. It has a spell-check built in, which is helpful if you want to do one last once-over of stories before you submit them or something.

Definitely not going to commit suicide over something so trivial; glad to know neither of us are that melodramatic! =)

 

[estragon]

And Finally

although I am sure nothing here is final, I refer one and all to the proprietors of this site, who, in describing this Bulletin Board as "Story Feedback", added the following description: "Post your feedback about Literotica stories you love or hate!"

So I have done, and so I will continue to do. And anyone else who wants to do likewise is at absolute, unfettered liberty to do so.

If you are interested in what I like, see my thread on this Board "Embarras de Richesse". As for what disappoints me, stay tuned.

And as for those who would seek, in bad faith, to force me into silence, by attempting to slander and defame me; by attempting to destroy the worth of my copyrights and hinder me from employment as a copy editor; solely out of malice; without having actually read a single story I have written, or advancing a single, reasoned argument why any comment I have made is either factually wrong or actuated by malice or bad faith on my part; they have failed, abjectly.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

You do realize boor is spelled with two o's, right? No offense, it grates on my nerves when someone chooses to insult another, but doesn't know how to properly spell the insult. It just seems rude and clumsy or boorish.

What a boorish thing to say about a "trained editor".

But Pilot is rather borish, a word that, I imagine, derives from bore---and not in the sense of making a hole.

 

[CarlusMagnus]

I don't believe in arrogant vigilante public criticism on a story site not designated as a writing critique site.

If, indeed, this be so, we must wonder why you publish so much of it in the forum part of that story site.

 

[sr71plt]

And as for those who would seek, in bad faith, to force me into silence, by attempting to slander and defame me; by attempting to destroy the worth of my copyrights and hinder me from employment as a copy editor; solely out of malice; without having actually read a single story I have written, or advancing a single, reasoned argument why any comment I have made is either factually wrong or actuated by malice or bad faith on my part; they have failed, abjectly.

Paranoid much?

Just consider it free-use negative comment on your boorishness (there, think I got it right).