Female intelligence
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CutieMouse said:I wouldn't enter a relationship with someone who wasn't signicantly smarter than I; however, this doesn't mean my own intelligence is equivilant to that of a frog.
You took the words out of my mouth. If I ever do end up in a D/s relationship, you can bet he'll be the smarter one. But it won't be because he's the dominant one - it's just because I only seem to have relationships with men who have more education and are smarter than I am. But the day he calls me stupid or the like, it's over.
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Evil_Geoff said:*wonders if he could pass bridgeburner's "I'm on fire" test... *
Better than that, you pass the coffee test!
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And you thought i called you kittycat for Catalina ...catalina_francisco said:I get the impression you would have a lot of first hand knowledge of such processes.
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Count me in the "are you fucking kidding?" category. Though a wo/man might not have a stellar IQ, i'd be less than hard pressed to find something in which that individual has experience about which i know little or nothing. Dominating bluff is the last refuge of those that have run out of altitude, airspeed, & ideas. The burning LZ marker is the same regardless.Ice2000 said:
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Yes, I agree that your partner should have at least one aspect where they can teach you something.LadyAria said:
I am a bit more flexible in that I will learn something in the process of dominating, no matter who is submitting. I have little experience.
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I've never met a Dom or sub that was by far my intellectual superior. That's not to say I haven't met one more intelligent than I am- I have.. a small few, actually; but they weren't massively more intelligent than me. I've met quite a few of each group that are my equal, and quite a few that were less intelligent.
I don't believe that being a Dom/me makes one person more intelligent, simply by virtue of being a Dom/me. I've met my share of rather mentally lacking Dom/mes.
I don't believe that being a submissive makes a person less intelligent, simply by virtue of being a submissive. Again, I've met my share of rather brilliant subs.
However, here is where I think a problem may lie: someone is NOT smarter or more stupid because of the role they choose... rather, they may choose a certain role because they are smarter or less intelligent.
I don't believe my previous statement, by the way. I've met a few brilliant Dom/mes, and a few brilliant submissives... and just like in real life, brilliance does not abound in one group over the other.
Heh. ETA: re: the thread title: I think that men and women are differently intelligent.. and as a whole, neither is more intelligent than the other...
I don't believe that being a Dom/me makes one person more intelligent, simply by virtue of being a Dom/me. I've met my share of rather mentally lacking Dom/mes.
I don't believe that being a submissive makes a person less intelligent, simply by virtue of being a submissive. Again, I've met my share of rather brilliant subs.
However, here is where I think a problem may lie: someone is NOT smarter or more stupid because of the role they choose... rather, they may choose a certain role because they are smarter or less intelligent.
I don't believe my previous statement, by the way. I've met a few brilliant Dom/mes, and a few brilliant submissives... and just like in real life, brilliance does not abound in one group over the other.
Heh. ETA: re: the thread title: I think that men and women are differently intelligent.. and as a whole, neither is more intelligent than the other...
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Well I need my mind constantly stimulated so seek women who are smart and strong willed. You can ask people that know me I can be impulsive so need that balance. I want the whole package as after the sex and play you have to talk. And if not a good conversationalist there goes the connection.
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Honestly, I value different people for different things. It's kind of where being poly comes in. I could totally treasure and adore someone who might not be the brightest bulb on the planet, but is hot and sweet and emotionally on the level. That's not going to be let's run off together material, but I can value that relationship and I could be Domme to someone like that and love them.
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LittleJade, hi, I'm wenchhh. Two things. First I agree with the things you just said, and secondly, I think you're beautiful! Your eyes are seriously knock out material, and Jade is the PERFECT name for you. Just thought you should know. ps all meant dearly not queerly!
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BiBunny said:
I would agree with this.
I love to verbally spar with any partner I have had, but there is no fun in it if he can't see it coming and be quick witted back.
If they cant out-manoeuvre me verbally, it feels like I am kicking a puppy.
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A few women have lowered my IQ with other exciting manipulations to the point where I could probably have been verbally outdone by Scooby Doo.
As for men they've got to demonstrate that combative impulse just makes me look like an idiot. Deflect and I'm left looking smarmy and insecure - you can't "win" when there isn't a fight at all, or what I'm fighting is just myself.
For getting me all dithery the bar's a lot higher when you've got a pee pee. Life isn't fair, but there it is.
As for men they've got to demonstrate that combative impulse just makes me look like an idiot. Deflect and I'm left looking smarmy and insecure - you can't "win" when there isn't a fight at all, or what I'm fighting is just myself.
For getting me all dithery the bar's a lot higher when you've got a pee pee. Life isn't fair, but there it is.
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Actually I think Astro from the Jetsons coined Ruh Roh first.
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Too true!!
This type of exchange is one I look for before making any relationship commitments. I am lucky in that though my guy and I are no longer delving in the romantic/erotic elements of ourselves we still have wonderful verbal battles of wit which leave us both somehow sated.
This type of exchange is one I look for before making any relationship commitments. I am lucky in that though my guy and I are no longer delving in the romantic/erotic elements of ourselves we still have wonderful verbal battles of wit which leave us both somehow sated.
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I've known many masters who look for less intelligent subs, to the point where it no longer surprises me. As a master I would never want a lesser person as a slave. My slave has to be able to entertain me and for me a major component is entertaining me with conversation.
In fact my enjoyment of light hearted debate caused some friction with my slave early on in our relationship because she thought I was belittling her intellect. Silly girl, I don't bother debating with stupid people. I learned that lesson a long time ago.
In fact my enjoyment of light hearted debate caused some friction with my slave early on in our relationship because she thought I was belittling her intellect. Silly girl, I don't bother debating with stupid people. I learned that lesson a long time ago.
Interesting to see that so many enjoy verbal sparing with partners.
It never ceases to amaze me how creative sub's can be to get there way.
I'm a pretty hard guy to argue with, it always makes me smile when a lady out maneuvers me mentally to get what she wants.
It never ceases to amaze me how creative sub's can be to get there way.
I'm a pretty hard guy to argue with, it always makes me smile when a lady out maneuvers me mentally to get what she wants.
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I just find it really interesting that people are not able to respect people enough who they consider less intelligent to the point where they want nothing to do with them. I don't think someone has to be a flat-out idiot just because they're not especially smart or gifted.
I would consider my mother less intelligent than I am. That sounds horribly bitchy, but it's been the key to getting along with her. She's not a hopeless moron, but it does allow me to recognize "OK, in this area, this person is limited by this" so that I'm not constantly frustrated with her inability to see what I'm seeing.
I still love her. I still want to interact with her, I would never write her off as a human being or as someone I want to be around.
I also don't consider formal education to be the only education that's valid - but there are people I hold dear who aren't well read, aren't especially good at solving problems, make mistakes that I wouldn't and a lot of people wouldn't.
Some of the best scenes I've had have been remarkably free of the complicated BS of the guy trying to see if I really am as smart as he is with said verbal sparring, dealing with ex farmers, truckers, and doo dad salesmen who are often completely NON verbal. (And I don't just mean this as a pro, I mean this playing at large) I'm sure they're bright and competent people, but that's not why I'm interested in them or vice versa.
When I encounter a very intelligent submissive to play with, male or female, I really try to work around their intellect. "Ah, you have a Masters in Education, how lovely, miss. That isn't going to help you shine my shoes, though, is it?"
Or "My dear man I don't care what's coming out of your mouth, I'm far more interested in what we're going to put IN it." Smart people are very adrift and off balance when you deprive them of their smarts - it's often all they value about themselves, all they've been told IS valuable.
This thread's kind of evidence about how high we prioritize them.
Now the people I'm intimate with, in serious relationships, are white collar, post college, neurotics, like myself. I think people need more commonalities over a long haul and I find mine there.
But the question isn't "could you marry" it's "could you dominate."
I would consider my mother less intelligent than I am. That sounds horribly bitchy, but it's been the key to getting along with her. She's not a hopeless moron, but it does allow me to recognize "OK, in this area, this person is limited by this" so that I'm not constantly frustrated with her inability to see what I'm seeing.
I still love her. I still want to interact with her, I would never write her off as a human being or as someone I want to be around.
I also don't consider formal education to be the only education that's valid - but there are people I hold dear who aren't well read, aren't especially good at solving problems, make mistakes that I wouldn't and a lot of people wouldn't.
Some of the best scenes I've had have been remarkably free of the complicated BS of the guy trying to see if I really am as smart as he is with said verbal sparring, dealing with ex farmers, truckers, and doo dad salesmen who are often completely NON verbal. (And I don't just mean this as a pro, I mean this playing at large) I'm sure they're bright and competent people, but that's not why I'm interested in them or vice versa.
When I encounter a very intelligent submissive to play with, male or female, I really try to work around their intellect. "Ah, you have a Masters in Education, how lovely, miss. That isn't going to help you shine my shoes, though, is it?"
Or "My dear man I don't care what's coming out of your mouth, I'm far more interested in what we're going to put IN it." Smart people are very adrift and off balance when you deprive them of their smarts - it's often all they value about themselves, all they've been told IS valuable.
This thread's kind of evidence about how high we prioritize them.
Now the people I'm intimate with, in serious relationships, are white collar, post college, neurotics, like myself. I think people need more commonalities over a long haul and I find mine there.
But the question isn't "could you marry" it's "could you dominate."
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A couple of points... I think you might be confusing education with intelligence. They are totally different things.
let me give you an example.. My dad was from a poor family.. dropped out of school in the seventh grade to help support the family. Yet he was one of the most intelligent people I have ever known. You can be uneducated and brilliant.. or well educated and dumb as a box of rocks.
Second, I don't think people are saying they disrespect those who don't challenge them mentally. They are just saying they prefer them as lovers. I like a whole lot of folks I find sexually attractive.
A couple of points... I think you might be confusing education with intelligence. They are totally different things.
let me give you an example.. My dad was from a poor family.. dropped out of school in the seventh grade to help support the family. Yet he was one of the most intelligent people I have ever known. You can be uneducated and brilliant.. or well educated and dumb as a box of rocks.
Second, I don't think people are saying they disrespect those who don't challenge them mentally. They are just saying they prefer them as lovers. I like a whole lot of folks I find sexually attractive.
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I learned the difference between intelligence and education a long time ago. Education is a function of economics. You get the amount of education you can afford (in time and/or money).
The older I get the less I care about whether a submissive is a highly educated white collar desk jockey. The men I deal with are always intelligent. And not all the time their intelligence mirrors mine. Not all the time their education level mirrors mine. But they have to have other traits that are compatible with mine. And they have to be able to converse with me when ever I allow them to.
And I like a man to fix the things that break around the house (even though I can make most of the repairs myself).
The older I get the less I care about whether a submissive is a highly educated white collar desk jockey. The men I deal with are always intelligent. And not all the time their intelligence mirrors mine. Not all the time their education level mirrors mine. But they have to have other traits that are compatible with mine. And they have to be able to converse with me when ever I allow them to.
And I like a man to fix the things that break around the house (even though I can make most of the repairs myself).
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