Guilt.. ever feel it and how do you deal?

[FurryFury]

Guilt...a wasted emotion in my humble opinion. I was raised a heathen and there was no time for guilt in our house. We were having too much fun experiencing life.

Now for those who do experience and even become toxic with it, guilt can be annoying at best and crippling at worst. Cast it aside I say. Love life and lust for experience.

d

Far easier said than done.

Fury

 

[neonflux]

Far easier said than done.

Fury

I really like your idea that, if you cannot rid yourself of your guilt, it's better used as a spice or, as you phrase it, something with which to "keep oneself warm."

(You're so quotable these days )

Neon

 

[neonflux]

Neon,

Thank you for you post/s. Please dont appologize, I was very interested in all of the posts going back and forth on this thread and it has helped me a great deal to see that its ok to struggle and that I'm not the only one. Thanks so much for all your insights, they are wonderful!

Thank you for your sweetness and generosity. Neon

 

[FurryFury]

I really like your idea that, if you cannot rid yourself of your guilt, it's better used as a spice or, as you phrase it, something with which to "keep oneself warm."

(You're so quotable these days )

Neon

Thank you Neon!



Fury

 

[SpectreT]

Warning! Medium-Sized Post Alert! Rant on Religion Alert! Personal Opinions Follow!

I'm going to break one of the cardinal rules of discussion in polite company. I'm going to discuss religion, and my views on the topic.

I'm going to break another of those rules, and give my unvarnished opinions. I reserve the right to expand, explain, illustrate, and even seemingly contradict myself. I know the concepts I'm trying to get across; they may not get there, though.

Being an American of Italian and Irish descent, you may well imagine I was raised Catholic.

You would be correct.

I did something a lot of Catholics don't seem to do: I read several different translations of the books collected in what is called The Bible, without a priest or instructor of some sort to guide me. I applied my own mind to the books, unfettered by the opinions of others, or the couple thousand years of tradition.

I came to the conclusion that no organized Christian religion was doing that great a job of following the leadership of their central figure; Jesus. They seem more interested in perpetuating their power over people's thoughts, lives, and emotions, through things like guilt and shame, than helping people live better, happier, more full lives. This may not be true of all churches or faiths, it's just my over-generalization, and tarring them all with the same cynical brush of my personal experience.

I have met pastors and deacons and priests that are of the highest ethical character, and do their personal best every day to help people, even and especially with their inner turmoil. Yet somehow, my impression of the overall nature of organized religion remains.

Quite frankly, based on several passages from Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and Numbers, I should be dragged out in the streets and killed by a mob throwing large stones at me, for breaking a few of the laws found in those books. I have no reason to believe that those books, written thousands of years ago by humans, perpetuated by more humans, and used as a tool of control for so many centuries, are the literal word of God, I have no reason to believe God's actual will and desires are to be found anywhere in those books, but peoples' interpretations and assumptions about God's will are in there aplenty.

According to the prevailing thought, I have my "Go to Hell. Go directly to Hell. Do not pass Heaven, Do not collect Salvation." card drawn from the Community Chest.

Thank God, I don't bow to prevailing thought, nor am I shackled by the faith I was raised with. I have my own faith, and like every one of the six billion souls on this earth, I will have my day in court. Unlike a lot of them, I'll be standing on my own, or falling on my own. My duty in this life is to have something to defend, to have somehow contributed to this world and its people. It doesn't have to be some big thing that touches every life on the planet, it can be a million unrecognised acts of kindness, that I never think about, or even necessarily remember. And quite frankly, I believe we each carry and create our own Hell. I don't recall chapter and verse, but I think The Bible had a passage about Hell not being for the souls of Man.

But back to the original question, which I believe the above will help illuminate, I plead Not Guilty. (possibly by reason of insanity ) Shame, on the other hand, I get a lot of. Because there's a whole society of people with very negative opinions of the kinds of things I enjoy, and beliefs about the kind of person I must be, for enjoying them. Being the empathic, social creature I am, I can't help but take some of that on board.

 

[submissiveknight]

I think you said it quite well!

 

[Blushing Bottom]

Of course what you say is true FF but a thing worth having is a thing worth working for.

We work hard to please our partners and make life easy for them so why not ourselves. It is not a selfish thing to please oneself.

Do the work and reap The benefits

d

Far easier said than done.

Fury

 

[Blushing Bottom]

Outstanding...

d

I'm going to break one of the cardinal rules of discussion in polite company. I'm going to discuss religion, and my views on the topic.

I'm going to break another of those rules, and give my unvarnished opinions. I reserve the right to expand, explain, illustrate, and even seemingly contradict myself. I know the concepts I'm trying to get across; they may not get there, though.

Being an American of Italian and Irish descent, you may well imagine I was raised Catholic.

You would be correct.

I did something a lot of Catholics don't seem to do: I read several different translations of the books collected in what is called The Bible, without a priest or instructor of some sort to guide me. I applied my own mind to the books, unfettered by the opinions of others, or the couple thousand years of tradition.

I came to the conclusion that no organized Christian religion was doing that great a job of following the leadership of their central figure; Jesus. They seem more interested in perpetuating their power over people's thoughts, lives, and emotions, through things like guilt and shame, than helping people live better, happier, more full lives. This may not be true of all churches or faiths, it's just my over-generalization, and tarring them all with the same cynical brush of my personal experience.

I have met pastors and deacons and priests that are of the highest ethical character, and do their personal best every day to help people, even and especially with their inner turmoil. Yet somehow, my impression of the overall nature of organized religion remains.

Quite frankly, based on several passages from Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and Numbers, I should be dragged out in the streets and killed by a mob throwing large stones at me, for breaking a few of the laws found in those books. I have no reason to believe that those books, written thousands of years ago by humans, perpetuated by more humans, and used as a tool of control for so many centuries, are the literal word of God, I have no reason to believe God's actual will and desires are to be found anywhere in those books, but peoples' interpretations and assumptions about God's will are in there aplenty.

According to the prevailing thought, I have my "Go to Hell. Go directly to Hell. Do not pass Heaven, Do not collect Salvation." card drawn from the Community Chest.

Thank God, I don't bow to prevailing thought, nor am I shackled by the faith I was raised with. I have my own faith, and like every one of the six billion souls on this earth, I will have my day in court. Unlike a lot of them, I'll be standing on my own, or falling on my own. My duty in this life is to have something to defend, to have somehow contributed to this world and its people. It doesn't have to be some big thing that touches every life on the planet, it can be a million unrecognised acts of kindness, that I never think about, or even necessarily remember. And quite frankly, I believe we each carry and create our own Hell. I don't recall chapter and verse, but I think The Bible had a passage about Hell not being for the souls of Man.

But back to the original question, which I believe the above will help illuminate, I plead Not Guilty. (possibly by reason of insanity ) Shame, on the other hand, I get a lot of. Because there's a whole society of people with very negative opinions of the kinds of things I enjoy, and beliefs about the kind of person I must be, for enjoying them. Being the empathic, social creature I am, I can't help but take some of that on board.

 

[FurryFury]

Of course what you say is true FF but a thing worth having is a thing worth working for.

We work hard to please our partners and make life easy for them so why not ourselves. It is not a selfish thing to please oneself.

Do the work and reap The benefits

d

I do the best I can. Thanks for your concern.

Fury

 

[FurryFury]

Good stuff IMO, SpectreT.

Fury

 

[SouthernDom]

This is something I've been curious about for sometime. Do you ever feel guilty for having the fetishes you do? If so how do you work through them. I was raised Strict Southern Baptist and just the thought of premarital vanilla sex is hell worthy. Being from that back ground I struggle with this “side” of myself if you will. The urges are so strong and it feels so right to submit, be controlled and revel in the kink. However the guilt is also a very real part of it for me… though obviously its not enough to keep me from coming back for more. Granted I’m young and VERY new to all of this. I’m assuming that in time the guilt will edge away… however I’m curious if there are those who have or do share my struggle?

I had guilt issues when i was younger about my Dominant traits but after more than 25 years i have accepted that it is normal for me........no guilt today what so ever in regards to my sexuality.

In time i think all kinksters become more comfortable in their own skin........

 

[Netzach]

The only guilt I have is about the things I've done to others in ignorance, fear, and mistrust of my own sexuality and my own self. Well, no-one's perfect and I haven't eaten any babies or anything.

 

[neonflux]

As always, thank you SpectreT.

Neon

I'm going to break one of the cardinal rules of discussion in polite company. I'm going to discuss religion, and my views on the topic.

I'm going to break another of those rules, and give my unvarnished opinions. I reserve the right to expand, explain, illustrate, and even seemingly contradict myself. I know the concepts I'm trying to get across; they may not get there, though.

Being an American of Italian and Irish descent, you may well imagine I was raised Catholic.

You would be correct.

I did something a lot of Catholics don't seem to do: I read several different translations of the books collected in what is called The Bible, without a priest or instructor of some sort to guide me. I applied my own mind to the books, unfettered by the opinions of others, or the couple thousand years of tradition.

I came to the conclusion that no organized Christian religion was doing that great a job of following the leadership of their central figure; Jesus. They seem more interested in perpetuating their power over people's thoughts, lives, and emotions, through things like guilt and shame, than helping people live better, happier, more full lives. This may not be true of all churches or faiths, it's just my over-generalization, and tarring them all with the same cynical brush of my personal experience.

I have met pastors and deacons and priests that are of the highest ethical character, and do their personal best every day to help people, even and especially with their inner turmoil. Yet somehow, my impression of the overall nature of organized religion remains.

Quite frankly, based on several passages from Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and Numbers, I should be dragged out in the streets and killed by a mob throwing large stones at me, for breaking a few of the laws found in those books. I have no reason to believe that those books, written thousands of years ago by humans, perpetuated by more humans, and used as a tool of control for so many centuries, are the literal word of God, I have no reason to believe God's actual will and desires are to be found anywhere in those books, but peoples' interpretations and assumptions about God's will are in there aplenty.

According to the prevailing thought, I have my "Go to Hell. Go directly to Hell. Do not pass Heaven, Do not collect Salvation." card drawn from the Community Chest.

Thank God, I don't bow to prevailing thought, nor am I shackled by the faith I was raised with. I have my own faith, and like every one of the six billion souls on this earth, I will have my day in court. Unlike a lot of them, I'll be standing on my own, or falling on my own. My duty in this life is to have something to defend, to have somehow contributed to this world and its people. It doesn't have to be some big thing that touches every life on the planet, it can be a million unrecognised acts of kindness, that I never think about, or even necessarily remember. And quite frankly, I believe we each carry and create our own Hell. I don't recall chapter and verse, but I think The Bible had a passage about Hell not being for the souls of Man.

But back to the original question, which I believe the above will help illuminate, I plead Not Guilty. (possibly by reason of insanity ) Shame, on the other hand, I get a lot of. Because there's a whole society of people with very negative opinions of the kinds of things I enjoy, and beliefs about the kind of person I must be, for enjoying them. Being the empathic, social creature I am, I can't help but take some of that on board.