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'We don't owe them a fantasy': Woman who dressed in racy costume for Comic Con speaks out about sexual harassment

'It’s because many people at these cons expect women cosplaying as vixens (or even just wearing particularly flattering costumes) to be open/ welcoming to crude male commentary... like our presence comes with subtitles that say “I represent your fantasy thus you may treat me like a fantasy and not a human in a costume,”; she wrote.

'But that does not mean we have to put up with s*** that crosses the line, it does not mean we owe them a fantasy, it does not mean we dress up to have guys drooling over us and letting us know that we turn them on.'​
Come on, you guys, get a freakin' clue! Women are *not* like the blowup dolls you keep in your closet. Strangely enough, you have to treat them like a human being if you want to have ANY chance that they'll treat *you* like one.

More of the story in the link in the headline, of course.
 
I would never have thought that a physics professor at Brigham Young University could be so damn cool!

The vid IS long (almost seven minutes) but damn, it's worth it, IMNSHO! And even if you don't watch the whole thing through, at least watch from about 4:20 to the end.


Super Fast Ping Pong Ball Gun
 
Point, sir, well taken.

Allow me to present a Counterpoint:

I'm a sexy woman, so stop objectifying me.

TLDR: When you dress for attractiveness, you don't walk out into a vacuum, where ONLY the men who's attention you want can see you. The jerks and creeps are also out there, among the good guys. Call them on their duchebaggery, sure, shame them for it, yes, of course, but you can't expect it not to ever happen.

That being said, he first dick head to offend any cosplayer in my presence... Well, ideally, she should give him what for, but if she were kind enough to allow me, i'd be happy to ask the guy where he put his brain.
 
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Point, sir, well taken.

Allow me to present a Counterpoint:

I'm a sexy woman, so stop objectifying me.

TLDR: When you dress for attractiveness, you don't walk out into a vacuum, where ONLY the men who's attention you want can see you. The jerks and creeps are also out there, among the good guys. Call them on their duchebaggery, sure, shame them for it, yes, of course, but you can't expect it not to ever happen.


That being said, he first dick head to offend any cosplayer in my presence... Well, ideally, she should give him what for, but if she were kind enough to allow me, i'd be happy to ask the guy where he put his brain.

I COMPLETELY disagree. And I've already spoken about this in "It's Not Okay". Women should be able to dress however they want and be treated like people, because women are people.

We absolutely SHOULD expect it not to happen. Just like we expect not to get mugged, not to get raped, not to get our cars stolen...because people -shouldn't ever do those things-.

Expecting it not to happen is not pretending that it doesn't happen. We expect people to act like civilized adults, because that's the way society works best, when people respect each other. We get offended when we're treated offensively because it's offensive behavior, period.

Saying that we "should expect it" sounds like "You shouldn't complain about it, you obviously want it to happen since you dress like that." And seriously, if you think that way....

...you suck.
 
Satin, I was just presenting a counterpoint.

What I would like to say is that offensive behavior needs to be guarded against and shamed when it happens...

But what scares me is that to do that, will I some day have the floor moped with my heart and soul when/if I want to express my good natured interest in someone, just because I am a fat guy with no money, and therefore NOT mating material.

The notion that I have no right to even pursue romance because I am not of good genetic stock makes me sad. Can you understand that?
 
Satin, I was just presenting a counterpoint.

What I would like to say is that offensive behavior needs to be guarded against and shamed when it happens...

But what scares me is that to do that, will I some day have the floor moped with my heart and soul when/if I want to express my good natured interest in someone, just because I am a fat guy with no money, and therefore NOT mating material.

The notion that I have no right to even pursue romance because I am not of good genetic stock makes me sad. Can you understand that?

My love is most certainly not mating material, but I love him just the same.
I won't go into specifics about his bad genetics, lack of money, or fluffy belly, lol, but it's the type of people you are looking for that wont mind the physical or even the disease prone genetics as it is out weighed by love and compasion.
Personality is at the heart of it. No matter the physical or social errors(for lack of a better word).
 
Satin, I was just presenting a counterpoint.

What I would like to say is that offensive behavior needs to be guarded against and shamed when it happens...

But what scares me is that to do that, will I some day have the floor moped with my heart and soul when/if I want to express my good natured interest in someone, just because I am a fat guy with no money, and therefore NOT mating material.

The notion that I have no right to even pursue romance because I am not of good genetic stock makes me sad. Can you understand that?



Cruel reality.

Fat guys with no money should do OK with fat chicks with no money either. No one's going to mop anything if you accept reality. Most people fight in their weight class, as it were, and there's no shame in that. Plenty of women are experiencing the same fears and anxieties you are.

Everyone thinks that they can say whatever they want to the attractive woman by virtue of her attractiveness. Beauty does not make someone into public property.
 
Cruel reality.

Fat guys with no money should do OK with fat chicks with no money either. No one's going to mop anything if you accept reality. Most people fight in their weight class, as it were, and there's no shame in that. Plenty of women are experiencing the same fears and anxieties you are.

Everyone thinks that they can say whatever they want to the attractive woman by virtue of her attractiveness. Beauty does not make someone into public property.

I kind of like you. :D

I actually don't bother saying much of anything to pretty women, because I've accepted the reality you mentioned.
 
Satin, I was just presenting a counterpoint.

What I would like to say is that offensive behavior needs to be guarded against and shamed when it happens...

But what scares me is that to do that, will I some day have the floor moped with my heart and soul when/if I want to express my good natured interest in someone, just because I am a fat guy with no money, and therefore NOT mating material.

The notion that I have no right to even pursue romance because I am not of good genetic stock makes me sad. Can you understand that?

I can honestly say that women don't mind being approached when it's appropriate. As long as you aren't accosting a woman at a bus stop, or when she's alone or in a potentially unsafe place, and you do it respectfully, there's a 99% chance you won't get "mopped".

Think about it this way. "If I was a malicious person with intent to hurt this woman, could I do it here and get away with it?" If the answer is yes, don't approach her, because she could react negatively because of fear.

In public places where there's a lot of people, it's pretty safe to approach a woman. Especially in places where singles go specifically to meet people.

You do have a right to pursue romance. I sincerely doubt you'd say "You have no right to a boyfriend because you're fat and broke." to a woman, would you? If not, then don't say that to yourself. As long as you're going after women that are similarly attractive to yourself, you should be fine. I.E., if you're a 6, don't only ask out 10's.
 
I'm fat, but I love fat men.

Ok, it's actually more a specific body type that I'm attracted to, rather than fat men in general, but whatever. I like bears--big, tall, furry, snuggly bears with round tummies and arms strong enough to lift my fat ass up and swing me around.

But, yeah, most fat people aren't attracted to other fat people, for whatever reason. I think it's kinda odd.
 
Ah... To Ayn Rand, or not to Ayn Rand... That is the question.

^Indications of how smart and clever I am^

^Indication of how seriously I take myself^

You know, they say that funny people do it to mask their pain.

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Thank you, random stranger, for providing me a humorous image to go with my strange sense of humor... Whoever you are...

And thank you Smittenkitten, and Satindesire, and BiBunny for having been so kind and gentle with me.

And you, scarecrow... *Glomps* Lets go have a roll in the hay!

What? Too strange of a reference? Or was the connotation a bit off? Its just where my mind goes, I guess.

Quick! Tell me I have a beautiful mind!

Er... As long as you're not Hannibal Lecter...
 
Is Dr Who on hiatus AGAIN???

Yep! And before it even really got started, this time. I have lots of mean things to say about the latest crop. But then I just end up writing my silly fanfic some more, so I guess it does work out okay ;)


Hey, thanks for that, I sort of forgot Dan Bull existed for a little while! :D

Also! I raise you the team headkick equivalent.

I freakin' love Borderlands :D
 
Yep! And before it even really got started, this time. I have lots of mean things to say about the latest crop. But then I just end up writing my silly fanfic some more, so I guess it does work out okay ;)



Hey, thanks for that, I sort of forgot Dan Bull existed for a little while! :D

Also! I raise you the team headkick equivalent.

I freakin' love Borderlands :D



dr 11 fanfic? where??link please.
 
I admit I have only seen maybe three episodes with the 11th doctor, but I am invested in the 10th Dr. I don't want to move on. It took me until David to move on from Tom Baker as it is...

"I don't wanna move on, I'm a Ten-R-Us kid, with a million years and a TARDIS that I can play with. From Daleks, to brains , to Cybery-men, It's the biggest series there is! Gee whiz! I don't want to move on, cuz baby if I did, I wouldn't get a shot at Rose and me in bed!"
 
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I freakin' love Borderlands :D

That's because borderlands is the lovechild of awesomeness and hilarity. It's a game that the developers have put a lot of thought and time into, something that hasn't been pushed out ahead of time just to get the game out.

And, because of the loot system and character development is actually also a really good rpg.
 
I admit I have only seen maybe three episodes with the 11th doctor, but I am invested in the 10th Dr. I don't want to move on. It took me until David to move on from Tom Baker as it is...

"I don't wanna move on, I'm a Ten-R-Us kid, with a million years and a TARDIS that I can play with. From Daleks, to brains , to Cybery-men, It's the biggest series there is! Gee whiz! I don't want to move on, cuz baby if I did, I wouldn't get a shot at Rose and me in bed!"


lol!
But 11 is my first Dr....I love me some Matt Smith....although, i know of Rose, she's cute, i understand :)
 
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This is Chalk under an electron microscope. Super cool, right?! :D
 

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Niam, The Dr didn't use up the power of a dying sun just to try and tell her he loved her for nothing. ;)
 
Bu... D'oh! I wasn't thinking... :( Sorry.

There's tribute music videos all over youtube about it...

At least you don't have the full context of what happened, so if and when you finally do get to see it, it should still move you to tears like the rest of us. ;)
 
dr 11 fanfic? where??link please.

Well... more of an Amy Pond fic than anything. Smutty fic too, fair warning. And kinda intense. But with the forewarnings out of the way, you can see it in my Lit profile, the link's in my sig.

It's also 39 chapters long and counting, if length is an issue for you. :D

At least you don't have the full context of what happened, so if and when you finally do get to see it, it should still move you to tears like the rest of us.

Or seem sort of overwrought and melodramatic like it did with me. But then, I was never a Rose guy. Now, Amy on the other hand... ;)
 
*Blusters like Pooh on a windy day*

Abuh! Overwrought?! Melodramatic?!

Oh bother...

Amy seems pretty enough, but I don't know her as well as I have gotten to know Rose...

$80+ bucks for a season doesn't help make me want to know much either.

Stupid freaking 'considered an import' loophole!
 
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