The Second Amendment, Gun Control, and School Shootings.

[coachdb18]

Uhm, you just asserted that it was illegal to run for President, not the Senate. So, which is it?

Also, no. Having a Kenyan father is not illegal. Under any circumstances.

You know exactly what I'm stating, but opt to play it off as if you're dumb and don't understand what I meant? Poor choice of method to argue the point...

Having a Kenyan father isn't a crime. Having a Kenyan father and running for President is illegal

Why do you think the Founders made different requirements of citizenship for membership in the Senate than that which is Constitutionally required for President if they are as you claim one and the same?

Try answering this question.... go ahead, it should be easy enough to give a straightforward response

 

[cowslinger64]

You know exactly what I'm stating, but opt to play it off as if you're dumb and don't understand what I meant? Poor choice of method to argue the point...

We all know EXACTLY what you're saying...

 

[psiberzerker]

You know exactly what I'm stating, but opt to play it off as if you're dumb and don't understand what I meant? Poor choice of method to argue the point...

The point is that having a Kenyan father does not make running for president Illegal. It's just straight up racism. Nothing in the Elligibility requirements for either position, say anything about the parentage of the candidate. Until you can show me one word that says otherwise.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Why do you think the Founders made different requirements of citizenship for membership in the Senate than that which is Constitutionally required for President if they are as you claim one and the same?

Just for shits and giggles, I read various interpretations of the natural born citizen clause, none of which refer to the nationality of the parents. Got a cite for your shitposting, coach dumbfuck?

 

[IG_88]

Just for shits and giggles, I read various interpretations of the natural born citizen clause, none of which refer to the nationality of the parents. Got a cite for your shitposting, coach dumbfuck?

I hope he does. It's gotta be like the onion or something.

 

[psiberzerker]

It's gotta be like the onion or something.

He can't even find a Youtube video to back up his claims. Besides, the Onion is extremely liberal.

 

[coachdb18]

The point is that having a Kenyan father does not make running for president Illegal. It's just straight up racism. Nothing in the Elligibility requirements for either position, say anything about the parentage of the candidate. Until you can show me one word that says otherwise.

It's not one word, it's three ... 'natural born citizen'. You'll still not answer the question of why different edibility standards of citizenship, or do you think they just showed up on different days and rephrased it because they forgot?

 

[coachdb18]

The point is that having a Kenyan father does not make running for president Illegal. It's just straight up racism. Nothing in the Elligibility requirements for either position, say anything about the parentage of the candidate. Until you can show me one word that says otherwise.

I've clearly stated that Obama, Cruz and Arthur all fall ineligible based on the same criteria, how is that racism?

 

[psiberzerker]

It's not one word, it's three ... 'natural born citizen'. You'll still not answer the question of why different edibility standards of citizenship, or do you think they just showed up on different days and rephrased it because they forgot?

Read my lips: Born in Hawaii. Parentage is not a factor. Read the birth certificate. Honolulu is still not anywhere near Kenya. You're still stuck on this over a decade after it became a moot point? He is, and always has been a natural born citizen of the united states. he's never even had dual citizenship with Indonesia, and he has never lived in Kenya.

 

[coachdb18]

Read my lips: Born in Hawaii. Parentage is not a factor. Read the birth certificate. Honolulu is still not anywhere near Kenya.

REad my lips, location of your birth is not a factor (which is why I used my daughter's birth in Germany, on German soil, as an example). It is based entirely on parentage.

And I ask again, why the two standards of citizenship stated in the Constitution if there's no difference? You'll keep getting this question till you answer it.

Still also waiting on your response to the appeal to racism, memo just arrive with today's talking points?

 

[psiberzerker]

REad my lips, location of your birth is not a factor (which is why I used my daughter's birth in Germany, on German soil, as an example). It is based entirely on parentage.

Then show any documentation of his Kenyan citizenship. He's never even lived there. The first time he even visited there was in 1990.

 

[coachdb18]

Then show any documentation of his Kenyan citizenship. He's never even lived there.

His birth certificate clearly states his father was Kenyan. THAT is the documentation. It ain't about Hawaii, nobody gives a fuck if he was born in Hawaii, Kenya or the fucking moon, it DOESN'T MATTER where he was born, if he had two US parents but was born in Kenya I'd be stating he was a 'natural born citizen' and eligible for President.

 

[von_Bismarck]

REad my lips, location of your birth is not a factor (which is why I used my daughter's birth in Germany, on German soil, as an example). It is based entirely on parentage.

This is the exact opposite of what the majority interpretation of the clause states, coach dumbfuck.

 

[phrodeau]

His birth certificate clearly states his father was Kenyan. THAT is the documentation. It ain't about Hawaii, nobody gives a fuck if he was born in Hawaii, Kenya or the fucking moon, it DOESN'T MATTER where he was born, if he had two US parents but was born in Kenya I'd be stating he was a 'natural born citizen' and eligible for President.

Is that on the fake birth certificate, or the genuine birth certificate?

 

[psiberzerker]

Whatever. Have fun playing Immigration Lawyer, I'm reading a fascinating article right now about how he was treated as a White American in Kenya. His own sister described him as "A white man among blacks" in Nairobi, but I guess you know better than the entire US government's decision over a decade ago, so I'll stop beating my head against the wall.

Good luck with your impeachment proceedings, bro.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Does Coach know that one of Trump's parents was not born in the US?

 

[Sean]

His birth certificate clearly states his father was Kenyan. THAT is the documentation. It ain't about Hawaii, nobody gives a fuck if he was born in Hawaii, Kenya or the fucking moon, it DOESN'T MATTER where he was born, if he had two US parents but was born in Kenya I'd be stating he was a 'natural born citizen' and eligible for President.

Not this again. Didn't you look enough of a retard last time you tried this?

 

[coachdb18]

Birth of U.S. Citizens Abroad


A child born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met. The child’s parents should contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to apply for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA) to document that the child is a U.S. citizen. If the U.S. embassy or consulate determines that the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a consular officer will approve the CRBA application and the Department of State will issue a CRBA, also called a Form FS-240, in the child’s name.

According to U.S. law, a CRBA is proof of U.S. citizenship and may be used to obtain a U.S. passport and register for school, among other purposes.

The child’s parents may choose to apply for a U.S. passport for the child at the same time that they apply for a CRBA. Parents may also choose to apply only for a U.S. passport for the child. Like a CRBA, a full validity, unexpired U.S. passport is proof of U.S. citizenship.

Parents of a child born abroad to a U.S. citizen or citizens should apply for a CRBA and/or a U.S. passport for the child as soon as possible. Failure to promptly document a child who meets the statutory requirements for acquiring U.S. citizenship at birth may cause problems for the parents and the child when attempting to establish the child’s U.S. citizenship and eligibility for the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship, including entry into the United States. By law, U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html

Nothing in there about having to be born on US soil

 

[IG_88]

There have been several presidents whose parents weren't born in the US. How come those are ok?

 

[psiberzerker]

Nothing in there about having to be born on US soil

Right, because that's the statutes concerning children born abroad. He wasn't. Children born here weren't born abroad, they were born here.

Also why you're not a lawyer.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Does Coach know that one of Trump's parents was not born in the US?

When do we begin the impeachment proceedings?

 

[von_Bismarck]

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html

Nothing in there about having to be born on US soil

Holy shit, you really are this stupid.

 

[IG_88]

Not this again. Didn't you look enough of a retard last time you tried this?

So this isn't the first? Wow.

 

[cowslinger64]

https://vids.onsizzle.com/a-meeting-of-the-short-lived-redneck-mensa-club-com-i-18199449.mp4

 

[coachdb18]

Right, because that's the statutes concerning children born abroad. He wasn't. You have to look at the ones concerning children born in America.

Also why you're not a lawyer.

It's not required you or I be a lawyer, which to my best knowledge you aren't either. It was directed to the citizenship of the parents, not the soil. You're trying very hard to miss the essentials of the issue. Any American can be born abroad to US citizens and be a US citizen by birth. But a non-American does not confer that same response.