Trust and Honesty...opinions please

[A Desert Rose]

Good Morning, Ma'am.

Rose

 

[Shadowsdream]

Good Morning, Ma'am.

Rose

Good Morning subbie girl...how are the bright lights treating you today please?

 

[A Desert Rose]

Well since you asked,

Had a date tonight, First one in a couple of months. It went well enough that he asked me out again next weekend, when he gets back from a business trip. I am feeling nice about things.

Thank you for asking after me Ma'am.

Rose

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Well since you asked,

Had a date tonight, First one in a couple of months. It went well enough that he asked me out again next weekend, when he gets back from a business trip. I am feeling nice about things.

Thank you for asking after me Ma'am.

Rose

My pleasure rose I enjoy hearing how things are progressing in your life.

Now a bit of a side trip...have you ever heard of the Red Rooster ?

I had a wonderful time there last time I was in Vegas

 

[A Desert Rose]

No Ma'am, I don't believe I have. Where is and what is it?

 

[Shadowsdream]

No Ma'am, I don't believe I have. Where is and what is it?

It is one of the best known Swingers Clubs in the USA..a huge comfortable arena of pervs...I do not have the address but every cabby in Vegas knows it and there will be info on the net.

I met several very nice BDSMers there and they were going to introduce Me to their club but I had other things to do..such as Domme My NY sub privately that trip.


The founders are wonderful people...very open and accepting friendly environment

 

[A Desert Rose]

A fairly new club

called Rick's Tally Ho is similar I believe to the Red Rooster. The Tally Ho is just off the Strip (west). I have not yet been there, but looks and sounds like a fun place from what I have been told. I will ask around about the Red Rooster. I am sure lots of people know about it, LOL I am just a bit naive about some things.

Rose

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: A fairly new club

called Rick's Tally Ho is similar I believe to the Red Rooster. The Tally Ho is just off the Strip (west). I have not yet been there, but looks and sounds like a fun place from what I have been told. I will ask around about the Red Rooster. I am sure lots of people know about it, LOL I am just a bit naive about some things.

Rose

~~smile~~~there is nothing wrong with being naive if you recognize it and enoy it

 

[artful]

Shadows

I am waiting to copy and paste,...where have you gone?

 

[reddevilGOW]

I completely agree with the statements above. It is hard to trust but yet you have to trust that if you are honest with people they are going to be honest with you and treat your honesty with the respect it deserves.

I know the feeling of being hurt from being honest and from the side of being dishonest.

I was dishonest to myself for a long time and hurt myself extremely in the process as on the other hand i have been honest and had my feelings torn apart and ridiculed.

The strongest person in the world is an honest one for they are honest no matter what poeple say or thing of them. It takes the alot of courage to be an honest person.

There is no trust without honesty as there is no honesty without trust. I would just add that there is no honesty or trust without courage.

 

[Ebonyfire]

I completely agree with the statements above. It is hard to trust but yet you have to trust that if you are honest with people they are going to be honest with you and treat your honesty with the respect it deserves.

I know the feeling of being hurt from being honest and from the side of being dishonest.

I was dishonest to myself for a long time and hurt myself extremely in the process as on the other hand i have been honest and had my feelings torn apart and ridiculed.

The strongest person in the world is an honest one for they are honest no matter what poeple say or thing of them. It takes the alot of courage to be an honest person.

There is no trust without honesty as there is no honesty without trust. I would just add that there is no honesty or trust without courage.

Glad to see a new person post. I hope you will continue.

Ebony

 

[reddevilGOW]

Well i am new a good part of the way around. I have only been in the lifestyle for 9 months now.

I just recently was collared by My Master Ghost of Winter. He has taught me so much and helped me to know that it is ok to be myself and not lie to myself about who i am.

I hope i will have the courage to keep posting. I find it hard but i only post on things that i feel i have input on. As i am new i dont feel i know enough to post on alot of things but this is one that i have learned the hard way on and i have alot of knowledge on.

I thank you for that kind welcome.

 

[artful]

redd

Well i am new a good part of the way around. I have only been in the lifestyle for 9 months now.

I just recently was collared by My Master Ghost of Winter. He has taught me so much and helped me to know that it is ok to be myself and not lie to myself about who i am.

I hope i will have the courage to keep posting. I find it hard but i only post on things that i feel i have input on. As i am new i dont feel i know enough to post on alot of things but this is one that i have learned the hard way on and i have alot of knowledge on.

I thank you for that kind welcome.

Allow me to join Eb in welcoming you to the Forum. Please feel free to post on whatever topic might interest you. If you have a question about something BDSM related,...feel free to start your own thread.

If you haven't as yet noted,...there ARE stickys at the top of the Forum you may wish to read,...and those will aid you in how the Forum operates. Also,...don't hesitate to PM your questions if you need help in posting.

Again,...*welcome*,...I hope you enjoy your stay with us, and please, just call me Art.

 

[~Dream~]

reddevilGOW:

Welcome to the forum ,so happy to meet ya,You ca call me Dream ,I am Master Artful's submissive sex slave and I am really new at this myself,only online in THIS relationship for a little over 4 months now,Master & I are LDR/LTR..Long-Distance realtionship/Long term relationship also and D/s..I am moving to Arkansas to be with Him next June...please feel free to join in anywhere or pm myself or my Master with questions,we are happpy to help..I just received my training collar myself in August!!

 

[MissTaken]

Well i am new a good part of the way around. I have only been in the lifestyle for 9 months now.

I just recently was collared by My Master Ghost of Winter. He has taught me so much and helped me to know that it is ok to be myself and not lie to myself about who i am.

I hope i will have the courage to keep posting. I find it hard but i only post on things that i feel i have input on. As i am new i dont feel i know enough to post on alot of things but this is one that i have learned the hard way on and i have alot of knowledge on.

I thank you for that kind welcome.

Welcome, welcome,welcome!

And know that many of us were on shakey ground and "didn't know enough to post" at some point. BTW, there is no such thing.

Please post.
Ask questions.

Tell us a bit about you and your experiences. All of us have different experiences and different insights to offer.

Take care

Miss T

 

[reddevilGOW]

Thank you all for the kind welcomes. I will remember if i have any questions i will post and ask them.

I really dont have many questions anymore if you would have met me about 4 more or more ago i would have had questions like you wouldnt have believed. I was still very seriously exploring and tring to learn everything at once. Now my learning curve has flattened out alot.

I have mostly learned that if I just follow my heart and soul I please my Master because it tells me what i should and shouldnt be doing for the most part.

Well thanks everyone and i hope i didnt bore all of you to sleep with my post.

reddevil

 

[Ebonyfire]

Well i am new a good part of the way around. I have only been in the lifestyle for 9 months now.

I just recently was collared by My Master Ghost of Winter. He has taught me so much and helped me to know that it is ok to be myself and not lie to myself about who i am.

I hope i will have the courage to keep posting. I find it hard but i only post on things that i feel i have input on. As i am new i dont feel i know enough to post on alot of things but this is one that i have learned the hard way on and i have alot of knowledge on.

I thank you for that kind welcome.

I wish more new folks would ask questions about things they are encountering right now. Sometimes it is so tempting to jump ahead to something that is complicated and unfamiliar.

Ebony

 

[reddevilGOW]

Eb,

I am not really encountering anything new. It is the things i have been encountering since i started to an extent.

The only thing new is the length of time my Master and i have together and the fact that i am now collared.

Him and i talk constantly so any question that may arrise is always discussed between us when it comes up.

 

[A Desert Rose]

bumping this up because I noticed mention of honesty in a thread or 2. This is a good read and re-read.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Another Good thread

Bump!

 

[MissTaken]

Okay!

I will bite!

I think the internet has redefined trust in BDSM and otherwise.

There is not eye contact to avoid when lying, no body language to give you away. So many use this to there supposed advantage. However, I believe , we get what we deserve in the end. IT does catch up with you at some point.

Now, changing the shift of the post, how does one rebuild trust once it is lost?

Does anyone have any experience with this?

 

[Ebonyfire]

It would depend

on whether there was a relationship worth saving.

If I cannot trust someone, I usually take that as a sign that there is nothing there worth preserving. I move on.

Eb

 

[TheWanderer]

Re: It would depend

on whether there was a relationship worth saving.
If I cannot trust someone, I usually take that as a sign that there is nothing there worth preserving. I move on.

As a rule of thumb, I would agree.

But with every rule, there are exceptions, naturally. It's a matter of personal choice and insight into the situation.

Yes, I'm being a bit defensive here, simply because I'm working to reestablish trust in a relationship where I made some horrid mistakes - things I would never dream of doing now.

But then, that's what you said in the beginning, right?

 

[Desdemona]

I think it takes a hell of alot of time to rebuild trust after it is lost. I am hopeful that eventually I will have a reason to trust someone special to me in that way again. But, it will take a great deal of time and effort. Only time will tell.

Only you can decide if it is worth the risk on your part to let that person in again.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: It would depend

As a rule of thumb, I would agree.

But with every rule, there are exceptions, naturally. It's a matter of personal choice and insight into the situation.

Yes, I'm being a bit defensive here, simply because I'm working to reestablish trust in a relationship where I made some horrid mistakes - things I would never dream of doing now.

But then, that's what you said in the beginning, right?

I hope things turn out for you.

I was speaking about my own experiences and how I tend to behave. I also have found when I deviate from my own way of doing things I live to regret it. Others may and do take a different view, but I feel that at 52, I have to learn to cut my losses and move on. Times a wasting.

Eb