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[JaySecrets]

"Honor it's worth by taking that bend,
Open palmed grasplessness, content at once was"

- JaySecrets poetry

^^^
You probably shouldn't be using words like "grasplessness" if you don't know how to use the correct form of "its" or hyphens.

And you probably shouldn't be so nitpicking when your own autocorrect whilst typing on a phone likely does the same thing, and I doubt you always catch all your autocorrect's typos. But there is a poetry forum, and if you have the chops to critique my work, you are welcome to contribute by posting your own work there. I can promise that I and others will give mad respect to your skills, assuming you have them, regardless of personal feelings about you.

 

[RoryN]

I asked you once not to address me ever again.... You are not being spoken to. Goodbye.

Hello.

^^^ Caught lying again.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

He doesn't. He uses Christians and others to meet the needs. And to say that suffering is BECAUSE of God is to say man shouldn't have free will. Free will means people will hurt each other, do wrong, not care for one another, and generally choose to act against what is right. Or they will choose to love God and love their neighbor. To remove the consequences means removing the choice. From everyone. Including you. Love requires a choice, and God is Love.

Ok, so Jesus asks Christians to feed the hungry and they ignore him.
Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[JaySecrets]

^^^ Caught lying again.

Nope... Just have enough respect for poetry and language to call you on your ignorance about it. Unless of course you have chops. Then the invitation is open for you to prove yourself. Because I can respect a person's eloquence and artistry, even if I find the person themself repugnant.

 

[JaySecrets]

Ok, so Jesus asks Christians to feed the hungry and they ignore him.
Thanks for clearing that up.

I just said they DO go and feed and help. That's kinda a thing Christians are known for.

 

[RoryN]

Nope.

Yup. And now you're lying yet again. Some Christian you are.

Like I said, I will decide when I respond to you, and I obviously have the power to make you respond whenever I wish. If that's not true, prove it.

I've got them laughing at your writing in my other thread already. This is gonna be fun.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I just said they DO go and feed and help. That's kinda a thing Christians are known for.

Then why are there so many starving children?

 

[jaF0]

Then why are there so many starving children?

And not just over there. Wherever. Right here at home. How many GOP states refused Federal money for the Summer Lunch programs? How many have cut or limited eligibility for SNAP/EBT and/or W.I.C.?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

And not just over there. Wherever. Right here at home. How many GOP states refused Federal money for the Summer Lunch programs? How many have cut or limited eligibility for SNAP/EBT and/or W.I.C.?

You mean the guys that JaySecrets supports.
That’s a good question, why does Jay think children should go hungry?

 

[JaySecrets]

And not just over there. Wherever. Right here at home. How many GOP states refused Federal money for the Summer Lunch programs? How many have cut or limited eligibility for SNAP/EBT and/or W.I.C.?

Because they don't want the strings the federal government attached to the money. They don't want a corrupt, bloated federal government meddling in their schools. And because they understand that it's not the job of the government. The care of the community and the hurting in that community belongs to the individual and the churches and non-profs best equipped to do the work. And parents that CAN provide food for their kids, even if it's pb&j sandwiches (I survived on less growing up), it's their job to feed their own children, not the state's. And when government gets out of the social welfare business, they don't need nearly as much in taxes and there are more resources to invest in that care by the people whose job it actually is. And the government employees who have spent way too long mooching off the taxpayer money can go get real jobs.

Problem is, you don't think you should need to do anything for others yourself. You want the government to do charity for you. That's called wealth redistribution, and that is a fundamental Marxist idea.

 

[ll74]

Problem is, you don't think you should need to do anything for others yourself. You want the government to do charity for you. That's called wealth redistribution, and that is a fundamental Marxist idea.

This take reeks of ascription.

But perhaps you have actual quotes you can attribute to jaf0 where he suggests that he supports this position.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Because they don't want the strings the federal government attached to the money. They don't want a corrupt, bloated federal government meddling in their schools. And because they understand that it's not the job of the government. The care of the community and the hurting in that community belongs to the individual and the churches and non-profs best equipped to do the work. And parents that CAN provide food for their kids, even if it's pb&j sandwiches (I survived on less growing up), it's their job to feed their own children, not the state's. And when government gets out of the social welfare business, they don't need nearly as much in taxes and there are more resources to invest in that care by the people whose job it actually is. And the government employees who have spent way too long mooching off the taxpayer money can go get real jobs.

Problem is, you don't think you should need to do anything for others yourself. You want the government to do charity for you. That's called wealth redistribution, and that is a fundamental Marxist idea.

If any of that was true you would be able to name a politician you support who drafted and submitted legislation that would provide food to hungry kids without all those strings.
Which politician is that?

 

[JaySecrets]

If any of that was true you would be able to name a politician you support who drafted and submitted legislation that would provide food to hungry kids without all those strings.
Which politician is that?

Did you miss the part where it's not the government's job. It's the parents' and the individual's job? The private sector. Not government involvement.

 

[JaySecrets]

This take reeks of ascription.

But perhaps you have actual quotes you can attribute to jaf0 where he suggests that he supports this position.

It's the basic stance of liberalism. Because liberalism is based in socialism and Marxism. And even the Communist Marxists said that. It's the root of the term "useful idiots".

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Did you miss the part where it's not the government's job. It's the parents' and the individual's job? The private sector. Not government involvement.

No I saw that you think children should starve.

 

[ll74]

It's the basic stance of liberalism. Because liberalism is based in socialism and Marxism. And even the Communist Marxists said that. It's the root of the term "useful idiots".

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[Rightguide]

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Looks more like the single mother line for a parenting class.

 

[Rightguide]

Poor Jay is not doing too well in this thread.

JaySecret is certainly not making any secret of his watch-making skills as he methodically disassembles your fantasies like a clock.

 

[Rightguide]

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Yep, right up the butt.

 

[ll74]

Yep, right up the butt.

Your sexual interests aren't being discussed, Sparky.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Yep, right up the butt.

Tell us you’re vetteman without saying “I’m vetteman”.

 

[RoryN]

Yep, right up the butt.

^^^^
Hates women; refers to gay sex almost daily here. For years.

Hmm.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Adoptive parents show an even higher level of commitment than foster parents do. To say "but how many bother being foster parents" is disingenuous on its face.

No it is not. You presented the fact that 100% of group X opposes abortion, but only 65% will become adoptive parents. ( note percentages are hypothetical in my example, but since you never quantifed the answers to my questions, all I can offer is hypothetical).

claiming pro-lifers don't adopt children.

Show me where i posted this!

While under 40% of Americans attend church services weekly, 65% of foster parents do. Barna Research found that practicing Christians are twice as likely to foster or adopt than the general population. They are also more likely to welcome sibling groups, older youth, and children with special needs.

So you can't quantify the numbers. You just regurgitate percentages. Without numbers for those categories ( above in my first post) it's meaningless since there are non-denominational/religious adoptive parents besides religions ones.

 

[Rightguide]

Your sexual interests aren't being discussed, Sparky.

Nothing sexual about your jammed up ass.

 

[ll74]

Nothing sexual about your jammed up ass.

You seem to be really focused on asses. Seriously dude, I'm not interested in your perversions...please try one of the other forums.