Two suggestions

[CarolineOh]

Re: playground

This is a response to WriterDom's proposal for a play area and a serious discussion area.

As pointed out, the fur might fly if someone's self styled deep thought were channeled to 'play'.

Alternatively, some say, let threads determine, and that seems to eclipse the serious stuff--look at the top 20 threads: either personal, political, 'community building' or fluff/humor, imho.

I therefore would support this variation of WD's proposal.
Have a 'general area' where everything, including light stuff goes.
Have a serious discussion area also, however, with, hopefully more than one thread.

Obviously there can never be a hard, fast line, since a bit of humor in a 'serious' discussion, is always welcome; yet the idea would be that, unlike the general thread, a person is expected not just to have a one liner, then exit, but to be contributing to discussion.

With all due respect, Pure, I have to tell you that there is no doubt in my mind that if set you aside an area for "serious" discussion only, the first time anyone makes a light or humorous comment there, you will get a flame war. Someone will try to diffuse a tense discussion with a joke, someone else will rail against making jokes on a serious thread, the joker will snap back, sides will be drawn, and your serious discussion will be drowned out in insults and pointless arguing,
I'll take the fluff, thank you.

 

[cymbidia]

1. Divide the forum along the same lines as the Personal forum. Have a bdsm playground for the increasing number of fluff threads, and a forum for serious discussion.

With all due respect, the moderators in this place take enough crap now just for moving personals threads and trying to keep the forum focus on track. How in the world are we supposed to decide what's fluff and what's not without really upsetting people? This is an inherently unworkable suggestion for our forum.

2. Give everyone a weeks warning then lock the mother thread.

The M thread has been locked since last Feburary.
A locked thread can be read.
It cannot be posted to.
That's all a locked thread is.

Do you mean that you think we should delete the M thread?

I disagree, in that case. Vehemently. On several fronts.

If you don't want to read the M thread, don't.
If you do, do.
It's entirely up to each individual but the thread itself is a valuable and irreplaceable part of who we are to many of us and to delete it is simply not a thing that will be done. Why should we pik that thread out and delete it? When should we delete others? It opens a big ugly "should the mods delete threads" box, that suggestion, and i really really don't want to strat having to think about deleting threads. I just don't want to do that. Why should any thread get deleted?

If they violate the rules, we move them.
The M thread doesn't violate any rules.
Ergo, it stays.

In any case, and just on principle, i'm against deleting any threads, or comments on threads. If you've posted the words, i think you ought to stick by them. Going back to erase stuff, unless it's just simple cosmetic changes or an effort to notincite an already heated up controversary, seems cowardly to me. If you post something, have the guts to stand behind your words - or don't post the words in the first place.

 

[tassie]

yup. i'm with you on that one.

but i said it first.

and less eloquently.

bugger.

 

[cymbidia]

Yes, tassie, you said it first.
I'm just copying you.
It's the sincerest form of flattery, you know.

 

[lorddragonwolf]

Re: Re: playground

With all due respect, Pure, I have to tell you that there is no doubt in my mind that if set you aside an area for "serious" discussion only, the first time anyone makes a light or humorous comment there, you will get a flame war. Someone will try to diffuse a tense discussion with a joke, someone else will rail against making jokes on a serious thread, the joker will snap back, sides will be drawn, and your serious discussion will be drowned out in insults and pointless arguing,
I'll take the fluff, thank you.

i agree with you on this. i have been a member of other forums and have seen what can happen when sides are drawn its not fun and tends to destroy the community.

 

[Pure]

The sky would fall!

Caroline Oh and Lord Dragon Wolf say flame wars would ensue, and general disaster.

There's always a thousand reasons why something new cannot be done, why things *must* remain exactly the same, and why--
it's believed--people would be *very* upset if things were different.

I don't recall in detail, but I seem to remember that the setting up of the bdsm forum itself met with similar objections.

Funny thing. A new set-up is done and everyone--almost-- just says 'oh' and goes about their business.

When--IF--there's a will, most reasonable changes can be done.
(There may be no will in this case; that's fine. We are just talking--I thought.)


J.

 

[Sandia]

I've deleted my own posts a few different times.

The first was maybe my second post to this forum; I deleted it because I was afraid it would create resentment (although in retrospect I think there was nothing wrong with it at all).

The other couple of times involved situations where I felt like I'd shared more about myself than I should have.

I've come to agree with cym, though, that in general it's better to let things slide; and trust that others will recognize that everyone has bad posts, and bad days.

And to give people the benefit of the doubt, and to not read into posts things that were not said.

 

[CarolineOh]

Re: The sky would fall!

Caroline Oh and Lord Dragon Wolf say flame wars would ensue, and general disaster.

There's always a thousand reasons why something new cannot be done, why things *must* remain exactly the same, and why--
it's believed--people would be *very* upset if things were different.

I don't recall in detail, but I seem to remember that the setting up of the bdsm forum itself met with similar objections.

Funny thing. A new set-up is done and everyone--almost-- just says 'oh' and goes about their business.

When--IF--there's a will, most reasonable changes can be done.
(There may be no will in this case; that's fine. We are just talking--I thought.)


J.

Pure, please do not put words in my mouth. I believe that trying to maintain two separate bdsm forums would increase the likelihood of flaming, but I made no hyperbolic warnings about "general disaster"
I think it is incumbent on those who would like to see major change to make their case convincingly, and I am more than willing to listen to reasonable suggestions.
This one, I just happen to think, is needless and would prove counter productive.

 

[WriterDom]

Change is always met with resistance.

Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Change is always met with resistance.

Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid.

Ain't that the truth!!

Catalina

 

[A Desert Rose]

Change is always met with resistance.

Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid.

No one is resisting anything. A thread is started and opinions are asked for and given. Just because some of us don't see the idea on the thread as all SWELL, makes those of us wrong?

I have no say in what happens here. This is not my board.

Sorry, I don't always sit on the same side of the fence as you do, dolly.

 

[WriterDom]

No one is resisting anything. A thread is started and opinions are asked for and given. Just because some of us don't see the idea on the thread as all SWELL, makes those of us wrong?

I have no say in what happens here. This is not my board.

Sorry, I don't always sit on the same side of the fence as you do, dolly.

That's great. I wouldn't want everyone on my side of the fence. Everyone has their own opinions.

 

[A Desert Rose]

That's great. I wouldn't want everyone on my side of the fence. Everyone has their own opinions.

Thanks. That's really big of you to allow other opinions.

 

[Desdemona]

As usual, I've missed something. Oh well. I'm going away again to cavort and allow wicked acts to be perpetrated upon my person.

 

[cellis]