U.S. politics isolation tank

[AngelicAssassin]

And I think Christine O'Donnell will be a referendum on the tea party more than Rand Paul will. Most of the US bears more resemblance to DE than KY.

Help me out and expound a bit on this Netz. i'm not quite sure what you mean. i found this cycle's results a bit surprising, but for two things, i'm thankful.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2009/0902/pelosi_obama_0225.jpg
i'll never have to see this twit bouncing up and down behind the POTUS during a televised State of the Union address.

The freshman incompetent elected by the slimmest of margins in my district lived up to reputation and got curb stomped this time around.

 

[Netzach]

Help me out and expound a bit on this Netz. i'm not quite sure what you mean. i found this cycle's results a bit surprising, but for two things, i'm thankful.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2009/0902/pelosi_obama_0225.jpg
i'll never have to see this twit bouncing up and down behind the POTUS during a televised State of the Union address.

The freshman incompetent elected by the slimmest of margins in my district lived up to reputation and got curb stomped this time around.

Kentucky is - well Kentucky. Delaware elected the person from this planet because it kind of matters when you're in the heart of the industiral east and have to play with others. If the Baggers are just there to stop shit from happening and thumb their nose it's going to be a very short party when the pain goes on another cycle and they haven't done anything. If they begin to understand that you can't cut 40 percent of the US budget and make that a viable plan outside the fantasy of your 15 person electorate *- there may be traction. I dunno. The only conservative I've found making enough sense for me to consider a vote for him in less dire times just lost the election here in hours from talking sense and having ideas instead of rhetoric and smear.
*really someone's platform

And before I get the bigoted Yank lecture I've BEEN there OK? It's a giant swath of MN six with cute accents. And the economy is whiskey and horses, whereas in DE it's greasily slippery banks and credit card companies - I'm more likely to depend on the latter, you?

Actually fuck it, I need a still more than a capital one card as this goes further down the shitter.

Not sure what will turn the economy around, but I don't think it's going to be anything done on the hill. Not bush cuts, not an anaemic half built stimulus that got us halfway across the chasm to stand and go "nice view down."

Look, I can't argue that some of the get the bums out fervor makes sense to me, it's just - take a deep breath and think people, do you really want to just throw ANYthing in there?

Oh, Pubs, Baggers, Moderates: I hope you watched Marco Rubio tonight. He is JUST what you guys needed instead of queen Sarah, eesh. He's articulate, young, hot, not see-thru white, and has compelling narrative, even a touch of - class? I hope someone gets a brain on the national level, wait, not really. Keep going with Michelle, make her next in line to be speaker, go for it, ha.

I'm getting another recount for my birthday, looks like. *cries* if this fucker's actually going to win just do it already.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I'm just glad Reid won.

 

[WriterDom]

I'm just glad Reid won.

Me too. Keep him as leader. Please.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Me too. Keep him as leader. Please.

No one likes the guy, but he got health care reform passed.

 

[JMohegan]

I'm just glad Reid won.

Apparently, Ms. Chickens-For-Heart-Surgery overplayed her race baiting hand. Word on the ground is that the Dems had no trouble at all getting folks to the polls in that state.

 

[JMohegan]

No one likes the guy, but he got health care reform passed.

Plus, that 51st vote is key. Biden could break a tie, it's true, but it won't surprise me a bit if Joe Fucking Lieberman starts caucusing with the Republicans.

WA or CO would be nice, too. Ben Nelson is just damn unreliable.

AK is hilarious. Go Write-ins!

 

[intothewoods]

No one likes the guy, but he got health care reform passed.

And he was running against a crazy person. The most memorable candidates this year were all nutballs who didn't win.

 

[intothewoods]

I watched MSNBC coverage last night just to check it out and was pretty disappointed. I really like some of the people on there but it's a weird night when Keith Olbermann looks like the sane and reasonable one. Rachel Maddow was excellent and measured in her delivery as always. I like Chris Matthews, even though he's sort of nuts, but Lawrence O'Donnell was so grating. I have enjoyed hearing him interviewed by others in the past and I understand the impulse to yell at Michelle Bachman but it's pointless. Ed Schultz is really a pointless blowhard as well.

I'm not a big Joe Scarboro fan but it's nice when they have some conservative voices on. Where did Uncle Pat go?

 

[WriterDom]

Used to be even 6 years ago almost all local people ran as democrats even though the state had turned. Now it's all republican and the few democrats who ran here got hammered. Roy Barnes got beat pretty bad himself. He might have had a change against the tea party girl who came damn close to winning. Like the Momma bear in SC.

Hope the tea party has learned that they have to run good candidates and not just any fool who wants to run under the tea party banner. I can't stand either of the Pauls but that's KY and one nut in congress can't do much damage.

For the first time since reconstruction there are no democrats in statewide office here and only four in congress. It's almost pointless to run in Georgia. Better served spending that money in another state. Statewide anyway. Atlanta will always go democratic.

 

[midwestyankee]

Used to be even 6 years ago almost all local people ran as democrats even though the state had turned. Now it's all republican and the few democrats who ran here got hammered. Roy Barnes got beat pretty bad himself. He might have had a change against the tea party girl who came damn close to winning. Like the Momma bear in SC.

Hope the tea party has learned that they have to run good candidates and not just any fool who wants to run under the tea party banner. I can't stand either of the Pauls but that's KY and one nut in congress can't do much damage.

For the first time since reconstruction there are no democrats in statewide office here and only four in congress. It's almost pointless to run in Georgia. Better served spending that money in another state. Statewide anyway. Atlanta will always go democratic.

Actually, one nut in the Senate can do a bunch of damage. See DeMint, Jim also Bunning, Jim.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

Obama's lost the base. Completely. Enough being a moderate and getting called a socialist.

Fight these blowhards and defend your policies or just say you're not running and let Hillary fight them.

 

[Keroin]

Our politics aren't interesting enough for their own thread. Well, we do have this.

Just a little post election smile.

 

[JMohegan]

Hey WD - Don't say I never gave you anything.

From the Rally to Restore Sanity, here you go.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_23Nt5XumaU&feature=player_embedded

 

[intothewoods]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/us/politics/04campaign.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

 

[Netzach]

Obama's lost the base. Completely. Enough being a moderate and getting called a socialist.

Fight these blowhards and defend your policies or just say you're not running and let Hillary fight them.

Jerry Brown.

Discuss.

Because no one else is. Not even on Huffpo, I bet, though I haven't been looking.

 

[Netzach]

Our politics aren't interesting enough for their own thread. Well, we do have this.

Just a little post election smile.

This is awesome!


... but like French as an official second language, it's much more attractive on you guys.


..I have scary visions in my head transposing this southward.

 

[rosco rathbone]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/us/politics/04campaign.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

Good article.

I never cease to be awed by the GOP's political talent.

I wonder if thing were reversed during the mid twentieth century, when the populist energy was on the other side.

It's really the same people.

 

[Keroin]

This is awesome!


... but like French as an official second language, it's much more attractive on you guys.


..I have scary visions in my head transposing this southward.

She was a scandalous figure but our politics tend to lack scandal, (except in my home province), so, meh, I can deal.

Calgary did just elect a Muslim mayor, though, (the first in Canada), which is probably fairly scandalous in that, our most redneck, province.

Anyhoo...carry on.

 

[intothewoods]

Jerry Brown.

Discuss.

Because no one else is. Not even on Huffpo, I bet, though I haven't been looking.

Talk about 9 political lives. I think Californians felt like they gave the political outsider a go once already and things were still crappy. Plus Meg Whitman didn't run a very good campaign.

Good article.

I never cease to be awed by the GOP's political talent.

I wonder if thing were reversed during the mid twentieth century, when the populist energy was on the other side.

It's really the same people.

I know, they're like the borg. They assimilated what they wanted from Rahm Emmanuel's tactics and got stronger. Kind of funny because I've been reading how terrible Rahm was and maybe things will be better now. Well, maybe not. Maybe you do need that asshole who corners people in locker rooms. He's kinda old school like LBJ.

I also think that's been a divide between Democrats and Obama. Obama ran a smart campaign. Not to say he hasn't made mistakes, but Democrats will do the same failing thing over and over again and Obama will just fire you and move the fuck on.

 

[midwestyankee]

Talk about 9 political lives. I think Californians felt like they gave the political outsider a go once already and things were still crappy. Plus Meg Whitman didn't run a very good campaign.



I know, they're like the borg. They assimilated what they wanted from Rahm Emmanuel's tactics and got stronger. Kind of funny because I've been reading how terrible Rahm was and maybe things will be better now. Well, maybe not. Maybe you do need that asshole who corners people in locker rooms. He's kinda old school like LBJ.

I also think that's been a divide between Democrats and Obama. Obama ran a smart campaign. Not to say he hasn't made mistakes, but Democrats will do the same failing thing over and over again and Obama will just fire you and move the fuck on.

You have to give Rahm credit for having successfully herded the cats in 2006. I know a lot has been written about how the Repubs are so much better at party discipline and why it's inherently less likely that Democrats will ever attain that same level of discipline - or even desire it - but it bears repeating. One reason why we win national elections about as often as the Chicago Cubs get to the World Series has to do with the fundamental Democratic identify: we like the fact that we represent a range of constituencies with differing objectives. But this also means that we won't be the NY Yankees any time soon, either.

 

[Netzach]

Talk about 9 political lives. I think Californians felt like they gave the political outsider a go once already and things were still crappy. Plus Meg Whitman didn't run a very good campaign.

I hate to sound like pollyanna liberal sunshine hippie, but as CA so often the rest of the country.

It's just interesting to me that they practically dug up a political corpse of an OLD SCHOOL progressive-ish dem Governor and still the media narrative is about the champion of the outsider and the rejection of government in all its current forms

and here's the perfect corporatist outsider - Ebay our way to solvency! And people were all um no.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I hate to sound like pollyanna liberal sunshine hippie, but as CA so often the rest of the country.

It's just interesting to me that they practically dug up a political corpse of an OLD SCHOOL progressive-ish dem Governor and still the media narrative is about the champion of the outsider and the rejection of government in all its current forms

and here's the perfect corporatist outsider - Ebay our way to solvency! And people were all um no.

I feel the same way. I guess I'm a pie in the sky optimist.

 

[rosco rathbone]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1110/No_shelter_in_health_care_opposition_.html

 

[midwestyankee]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1110/No_shelter_in_health_care_opposition_.html

Yes - because most of those Democrats who voted no on healthcare did so out of fear of losing votes in their districts. Because they represented districts that are either swing districts or outright conservative districts that they managed to win anyway. Over the long term, districts will elect representatives that mirror their overall partisanship.

Link below is to a chart and article explaining this in more detail.

Source