Using manners when giving commands

graceanne said:
Yelling smacks to me of lack of control and confidence. If you have to yell, then their's something missing. And quite frankly, yelling at me is a good way for me to emotionally disappear. I'll go inside my head, and I won't come out till you're done.

That sounds about right graceanne...
 
I have a bit of a new look on this:
I am a kindergarten teacher and a lot of my day is spent giving instructions/commands. When I first started the class in September, the kids didn't understand that "Please pick up that toy and put it away, thank you" actually meant "Pick up that toy and put it away."
They learned mighty fast, as subsequent requests were the same wording, but much more sternly uttered.

My point is, manners are never out of place if they feel right to you. Anyone will get used to it very quickly, even a 3 or 4 year old. My kids (students) understand now that when I say Please and Thank you, I am not requesting, just being polite, and when THEY use please and thank you I smile and say, "Good manners!"

In a D/s context, I would think that variety in this, as in so much else, is just spice. I would certainly say that you can command politely, if you want to.

Just MVHO
 
You can change a simple or even wimpy question into a strong demand with a few slight inflections.

e.g. *Can you please get down on the floor now?*

*Can you please get down on the floor NOW!*

...with a growly voice and thickly menacing demeanor.
Nice.
 
The touch

can put a finger tip on the hairline and put a submissive on her knees without uttering a word.
 
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AngelicAssassin said:
can put a finger tip on the hairline and put a submissive on her knees without uttering a word.

Indeed.
 
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fallon2 said:
"Deadly polite commands" are exactly what I use. I do NOT need to raise my voice . . . but I have been told many times that when I speak it is entirely clear through my tone of voice and inflection of speech that I am deadly serious in my commands and requests.
I hope one day to live in the South . . . ;)

We keep it nice and warm down here.. always a please and thank You for Daddy's....:heart: :heart: :heart:
We southern girls aim to please
 
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AngelicAssassin said:
can put a finger tip on the hairline and put a submissive on her knees without uttering a word.

I am becoming very afraid, very very afraid. I have to go under the bed now...
 
Actually I think that a PYL who is polite demonstrates class and a fine upbringing.
 
Having been raised in the military, I learned at an early age that the majority of the most effective commanders were those who were unfailingly polite and soft-spoken. A simple request: "May I have the xyz file, please, Lieutenant?" got a quick response. The same words, in a quieter voice with steel underlying it, got an instant response, and quite often a very pale lieutenant!

My commands are usually phrased as requests: "Lift your skirt, please," but there is seldom (if ever) any confusion in her mind as to whether or not she should lift her skirt and keep lifting it until I tell her it's high enough ("That's good - thank you."), or keep holding it until I tell her she can let it down ("Very good. Let it down, please. Thank you."). Displeasure is also easily determined by an intelligent pyl, too - all she needs to do is see my eyes, and hear my voice get quieter, more precise - and usually even more polite.

I'm a polite PYL ... a real pussycat. I almost never raise my voice - though I may alter the tone so it's more easily heard - like across the room :devil: but God help anyone - pyl or PYL - who stirs me to the point that my soft southern accent disappears and my voice becomes clipped and almost British, because at that point, someone is going to pay dearly - usually emotionally or in "social points." I'm not sure where that - the loss of accent - comes from ... but those who have known me for a long time tend to try to fade into the walls when my voice gets very clear and clipped. *Shrug*
 
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AngelicAssassin said:
can put a finger tip on the hairline and put a submissive on her knees without uttering a word.

I envy your submissives....
 
Re: The touch

AngelicAssassin said:
can put a finger tip on the hairline and put a submissive on her knees without uttering a word.

*soft cry*

Sometimes AA manages to express unspoken subbie needs without the appearance of effort.

If Master were to do as AA suggests it would be an ultimate in a mind fuck for me.

Other times AA simply scares me.
 
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shy slave said:
*soft cry*

Sometimes AA manages to express unspoken subbie needs without the appearance of effort.

If Master were to do as AA suggests it would be an ultimate in a mind fuck for me.

Other times AA simply scares me.

AA doesn't scare me. But, I do like the way he thinks and enjoy the way he expresses himself. That image of the fingertip to the hairline took my breath away.
 
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Desdemona said:
AA doesn't scare me. But, I do like the way he thinks and enjoy the way he expresses himself. That image of the fingertip to the hairline took my breath away.

I agree. The whole thing. . . well it's obvious what a great mental picture it was, since several subs have voiced their reactions, and I know that most of the rest of us had the same feeling.
 
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Âş ,-?i]Originally posted by graceanne [/i]
I agree. The whole thing. . . well it's obvious what a great mental picture it was, since several subs have voiced their reactions, and I know that most of the rest of us had the same feeling. [/QUOTE]

What Gracie said...;)
 
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graceanne said:
I agree. The whole thing. . . well it's obvious what a great mental picture it was, since several subs have voiced their reactions, and I know that most of the rest of us had the same feeling.

Exactly.....*sigh*
 
LOL, well I didn't say I didn't like some of the things AA says or suggests, but it takes a bit more than the typed word on a screen to get me breathless and in awe these days. Must be old age catching up with me, or perhaps because I am fortunate to have one of the most sadistic Doms I have ever known all too in my face with the reality 24/7 which has made me a little over focused only on him.....is sooooo nice to have him home again making up for lost time. Now perhaps AA will be willing to take requests for 'moments in time' so everyone can have a taste of his blissful reality....I will take pics if anyone wants!!:D

Catalina ;)
 
Sir_Winston54 said:
I'm a polite PYL ... a real pussycat.

I can't imagine you any other way.


But seriously, I believe any Dom who has to yell has lost control. When they lose control, they've lost me.
 
Oh yelling can be such fun!

Maybe it's my New York upbringing.

While working over a guy in an NYC dungeon, he was on the verge of tears and trying to hold them in. I kept on hitting him on one tit with a crop, just the one nipple, and I knew I needed somehow to push him over the crying brink, so I yelled - (my accent comes OUT when I yell)

"I don't fuckin' care if they hear you in BROOKLYN"

and he started yelling and wailing and crying, it was beautiful.
 
Netzach said:
Oh yelling can be such fun!

Maybe it's my New York upbringing.

While working over a guy in an NYC dungeon, he was on the verge of tears and trying to hold them in. I kept on hitting him on one tit with a crop, just the one nipple, and I knew I needed somehow to push him over the crying brink, so I yelled - (my accent comes OUT when I yell)

"I don't fuckin' care if they hear you in BROOKLYN"

and he started yelling and wailing and crying, it was beautiful.

OK... in that case, even I would make an exception.

I would have loved to see that!!!
 
personally if your giving commands you shouldn't have to say please.. as if your asking their permission.. or treating them as if it was your mother...

i mean your giving them the power to approve of what it is your asking in a way.

but i don't see politeness being required unless the effect you want on the person to be.. well recieved or respected... do you want to be respected or feared? it all depends on the reaction you want to incite
 
catalina_francisco said:
LOL, well I didn't say I didn't like some of the things AA says or suggests ...
Why, thank you kittycat.
catalina_francisco said:
Now perhaps AA will be willing to take requests for 'moments in time' so everyone can have a taste of his blissful reality....I will take pics if anyone wants!!:D

Catalina ;)
And you know better, as well as my stock answer ...
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robynwildchild said:
personally if your giving commands you shouldn't have to say please.. as if your asking their permission.. or treating them as if it was your mother...

i mean your giving them the power to approve of what it is your asking in a way.

but i don't see politeness being required unless the effect you want on the person to be.. well recieved or respected... do you want to be respected or feared? it all depends on the reaction you want to incite

Well, machievelli says it is better to be feared then loved. Speaking though from the point of a submissive, there is no doubt that when I'm in a scene, if my dominant tells me to do something, even if they do use please, etc. there is no doubt in my mind I had better do what they said. I don't see it as being a request, I see doing what they tell me, no matter how they say it, as responding to their command.
 
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