What do you consider to be your hard limits & how have they changed over time?

[VelvetDarkness]

Well it seems no matter what I say at the moment, somebody will take exception to it. I thought that incest, bestiality, paedo and necrophilia would be safely off the debate because they're illegal and immoral. Kids and animals are unable to consent to sexual acts, as are corpses. Incest I know is a hot fantasy but it's also illegal and IMO with good reason. If people think it's all fine and dandy then I guess that's their prerogative. If there are truly people frequenting this form who would engage in sex with a child or animal either of their own volition or at the behest of some whip wielding uberdom then good luck to them. For me and for most people, these things are not and will never be SSC.

Rainbowplay? I'm sure I don't want to know if it even squicks Homburg but I've never heard the term.

Also, I didn't intend for this thread to be a YC-bashing exercise re: the cervical penetration thread. I agree with many that it's a very bad idea but I can't say that all the bickering going on here makes for a good read.

Maybe I should just quit on this thread while I'm behind. Clearly, the timing of it was poor.

 

[YourCaptor]

Also, I didn't intend for this thread to be a YC-bashing exercise re: the cervical penetration thread. I agree with many that it's a very bad idea but I can't say that all the bickering going on here makes for a good read.

Maybe I should just quit on this thread while I'm behind. Clearly, the timing of it was poor.

Keep it going, I thought cervical penetration popping up here was rather amusing. Know that I am not offended, but I recognize how it can be to see this kind of stuff happening in your own thread though, so its up to you.

With your restriction, here are the limits I establish for my girls, and they have never really changed.

Abandonment and the threat their of

Political play, that one is for myself, nothing turns me off faster

Breaking of trust

and contrary to popular belief, serious injury and the threat their of

 

[rida]

Rainbowplay? I'm sure I don't want to know if it even squicks Homburg but I've never heard the term.

Rainbow play: play with vomit

 

[IsabellaKing]

Rainbow play: play with vomit

Ew! Just when I thought I knew my limits, I've gotta go and add something else to the list.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Rainbow play: play with vomit

Good grief. Not unless struggling with deepthroat counts.

 

[rida]

As for my hard limits, the no marks of any sort has gone out the window faster than a blink! LOL

And a bunch of soft limit like pain & anal have gone out almost as fast.

The reason for me is that I tend to be over conscious and I'd rather assume that I cannot do it until I try it out.

Hard limit that I can see will never change: scat, rainbow, anal fisting (and all the not SSC stuff).
Hard limit that might change only under incredible circumstances: needle play, play piercing, cutting, blood
Hard limit that might be challenged by the right person: water sport

 

[rida]

Ew! Just when I thought I knew my limits, I've gotta go and add something else to the list.

Good grief. Not unless struggling with deepthroat counts.

LOL!

You have no idea how excited I am to have known the answer
Guess I've been spending too much time reading on the internet ...

 

[Netzach]

Vile bodily substances just don't bother me to the point of "never" - I'm certainly an outlyer in this regard. Then again, if I were the bottom that might be a different story...ha.

Flashing people and parading around people sexually exposed and things most people consider really lightweight DO bother me. I definitely do public humiliation, but things that can be hidden or passed off as performance art or things that are just random acts of compliance. I have a lot of respect for the fact that no one really wants to see that shit. I've had bottoms raring to go on things that are a firm NO for me, in terms of who's going to have to see and deal with what.

 

[IsabellaKing]

LOL!

You have no idea how excited I am to have known the answer
Guess I've been spending too much time reading on the internet ...

Uh, is your location a coincidence?

 

[rida]

Uh, is your location a coincidence?

I didn't even put the two things together!

I better change my location back to the "land of the rising sun"

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I didn't even put the two things together!

I better change my location back to the "land of the rising sun"

*giggles* that'll teach you Miss Cleverknickers

 

[ownedsubgal]

Well it seems no matter what I say at the moment, somebody will take exception to it. I thought that incest, bestiality, paedo and necrophilia would be safely off the debate because they're illegal and immoral. Kids and animals are unable to consent to sexual acts, as are corpses. Incest I know is a hot fantasy but it's also illegal and IMO with good reason. If people think it's all fine and dandy then I guess that's their prerogative. If there are truly people frequenting this form who would engage in sex with a child or animal either of their own volition or at the behest of some whip wielding uberdom then good luck to them. For me and for most people, these things are not and will never be SSC.

Rainbowplay? I'm sure I don't want to know if it even squicks Homburg but I've never heard the term.

Also, I didn't intend for this thread to be a YC-bashing exercise re: the cervical penetration thread. I agree with many that it's a very bad idea but I can't say that all the bickering going on here makes for a good read.

Maybe I should just quit on this thread while I'm behind. Clearly, the timing of it was poor.

please don't quit on the thread Velvet, you've posed good questions. it's just that assumptions (like that everyone here even believes in "SSC" or that certain things are universal limits) along these lines are a pet peeve of mine. as far as issues of legality, as YC mentioned, many things that most of us engage in everyday are technically illegal, i have never met a person in the lifestyle (and few outside of it) who live their lives following the letter of the law. and as far as immorality, that's a very subjective issue, not so clear as some would make it out to be perhaps.

and oh yeah, of the things you mentioned, anything to do with corpses would definitely be a hard limit of my Master's. also anything overtly sexual with what he would consider to be a child, which is definitely younger than legal AOC.

 

[Homburg]

Rainbowplay? I'm sure I don't want to know if it even squicks Homburg but I've never heard the term.

When did I become a benchmark for squick?

Good grief. Not unless struggling with deepthroat counts.

This is not rainbow play. This is merely a side effect of the activity. I say that in the same way that anal sex is not scat play, even though your do come into contact with fecal matter. In short, it is incidental, not intentional.

 

[Homburg]

Vile bodily substances just don't bother me to the point of "never" - I'm certainly an outlyer in this regard. Then again, if I were the bottom that might be a different story...ha.

I have a low tolerance for messy things. I generally won't do food play, for example. Lots of people like the idea of chocolate syrup or whipped cream from a can, but... ew. Just can't deal. Not a hard limit, I just recognise that I do not want chocolate syrup on me, and I certainly don't want to have to deal with the clean-up in any way. And, forwhatever reason, I am just not turned on by having my girls do that clean-up for me. Just doesn't ring my bell.

 

[GoddessHathor]

Besides for the obvious already mentioned (and argued about apparently), I always put pain (spanking, whips, wax, etc) as a hard limit.

But over time, and with some good experiences, I'm finding that it's an extreme turn on for me.

Go figure!

 

[twysted73]

how about because they're illegal

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Having been abused as a child, my moral compass as well as my stake in humanity condemn that activity.

EF, you be nice to OSG...I like her thinking.
Illeagle-shmeagle.
I care not for what the law dictates. But for what I, as a human being and as a basically decent man, find agreeable.
It's like having Jimmeny Cricket carrying a flogger on my shoulder.
Speaking of floggers...where ever did my little babydoll get to?
*makes "pss pss pss" never-fail cat-attractant sounds*


rida? I saw you brief list of Never-Change Hards....I enjoy 2 out of three. (the third..*shivers*)
But the two! You'd love fisting. I've yet to meet a woman who didn't like it and want it again after. Oh the nerves you'd discover!
And the other...well....that's just hot.

 

[intothewoods]

Well it seems no matter what I say at the moment, somebody will take exception to it. I thought that incest, bestiality, paedo and necrophilia would be safely off the debate because they're illegal and immoral. Kids and animals are unable to consent to sexual acts, as are corpses. Incest I know is a hot fantasy but it's also illegal and IMO with good reason. If people think it's all fine and dandy then I guess that's their prerogative. If there are truly people frequenting this form who would engage in sex with a child or animal either of their own volition or at the behest of some whip wielding uberdom then good luck to them. For me and for most people, these things are not and will never be SSC.

Rainbowplay? I'm sure I don't want to know if it even squicks Homburg but I've never heard the term.

Also, I didn't intend for this thread to be a YC-bashing exercise re: the cervical penetration thread. I agree with many that it's a very bad idea but I can't say that all the bickering going on here makes for a good read.

Maybe I should just quit on this thread while I'm behind. Clearly, the timing of it was poor.

Oh, you must have missed the past bestiality thread, and I've had a few arguments around here about the age of consent. Fun times.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

Things that were once hard limits ten years ago, and now are not:

Needles
Cutting
Fireplay
Watersports

Things that still are,
Critters
Children
Corpses
Ca-Ca

Incestuous SM play with sister or cousins is so not a limit, some of them I've wanted to beat since early childhood! *LOL*

I have cousins I'd do in a heartbeat if they'd show any interest this way. Incestuous sex with my sister still is a hard limit.

Maybe. Damn. Probably. I know she can't have kids now... Fuck. That's a dilemma. Strictly on a physical level, mind you, she's effing HOT. Shit...I'd probably have to be drunk off my ass to get past the ingrained morality of it.

But if she wasn't MY sister I know I'd be willing to do her.

I feel so dirty now...

 

[LadyC]

Things that were once hard limits ten years ago, and now are not:

Needles
Cutting
Fireplay
Watersports

Things that still are,
Critters
Children
Corpses
Ca-Ca

Incestuous SM play with sister or cousins is so not a limit, some of them I've wanted to beat since early childhood! *LOL*

I have cousins I'd do in a heartbeat if they'd show any interest this way. Incestuous sex with my sister still is a hard limit.

Maybe. Damn. Probably. I know she can't have kids now... Fuck. That's a dilemma. Strictly on a physical level, mind you, she's effing HOT. Shit...I'd probably have to be drunk off my ass to get past the ingrained morality of it.

But if she wasn't MY sister I know I'd be willing to do her.

I feel so dirty now...

In my niave period, my brother was the first, my cousin second. I have no regrets. But those boys may have started me off tpward what I am today.

 

[BiBunny]

Meh, they mostly depend on the person.

My general rule is that I won't do to others things I won't allow to be done to me. Well, except CBT stuff, for obvious reasons. Other than that, the four Cs, rainbow, and any of that stuff that I'm either not qualified to do (like sounding, though I want to learn) or things I don't consider to be SM.

Oh, and incidentally, I do a lot of shit that falls on the not-necessarily-safe, not-necessarily-sane side of the scale, but I always go for the consent part.

 

[baristagirl]

Meh, they mostly depend on the person.

My general rule is that I won't do to others things I won't allow to be done to me. Well, except CBT stuff, for obvious reasons. Other than that, the four Cs, rainbow, and any of that stuff that I'm either not qualified to do (like sounding, though I want to learn) or things I don't consider to be SM.

Oh, and incidentally, I do a lot of shit that falls on the not-necessarily-safe, not-necessarily-sane side of the scale, but I always go for the consent part.

Until I looked it up just now I swear I thought CBT was cognitive behavioral therapy. Usually used to treat borderline personalities while hospitalized, I just thought maybe some form of it could be used for mind control as a kink? Sheesh!

Anyway, I don't know where my limits may lie just yet. been fun reading about others' though.

 

[rida]

*giggles* that'll teach you Miss Cleverknickers

rida? I saw you brief list of Never-Change Hards....I enjoy 2 out of three. (the third..*shivers*)
But the two! You'd love fisting. I've yet to meet a woman who didn't like it and want it again after. Oh the nerves you'd discover!
And the other...well....that's just hot.

I LOVE vaginal fisting ... but honestly I cannot see being able to ever accommodate a fist anally without tearing ... *panic at the thought
As for the other two ... my mind does not even want to go there

Incidentally, when it comes to bestiality, I don't have any non consent judgment (I'm not even vegetarian) but it falls in the squicky category.

 

[BiBunny]

Until I looked it up just now I swear I thought CBT was cognitive behavioral therapy. Usually used to treat borderline personalities while hospitalized, I just thought maybe some form of it could be used for mind control as a kink? Sheesh!

Anyway, I don't know where my limits may lie just yet. been fun reading about others' though.

LOL, when I was an undergrad, I majored in psych. I'd be up late at night studying for tests, and I'd see CBT in a lot of my texts and notes. God, my mind would wander so much, on to the FUN kind of CBT, LOL. It's a wonder I ever got anything done.

 

[FurryFury]

I had a lot of fairly hard, well actually, I'd say brittle limits. You could get past them but it wasn't comfortable or easy before we began to really explore D/s and kink more.

Now I've opened up so much more of my body, heart and mind. I'd even consider adding in others if he wanted it. I'd consider almost anything that involved consenting adults if he wanted it.

I've opened up a great deal within our relationship. That wouldn't have happened if he'd freaked out and shut me down. Thankfully, he was fairly open to letting me explore and trying things with me. This, even though, he "didn't get it" and "didn't want to." He still supported me and let my fly as much as my self limits would allow.

*sings*

"What a man, what a man, what a mighty fine man."

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Oh, you must have missed the past bestiality thread, and I've had a few arguments around here about the age of consent. Fun times.

Wow, yep, missed that one completely. Can't say I'm all that cut up about it though.