What do you consider to be your hard limits & how have they changed over time?

[intothewoods]

I was thinking more because of the anal retentive thing.



I kid! I kid!

Moi? I wish.

Not to me. I use those words differently. Then again, I'm in the insurance field, and "limits" and "limitations" are two utterly different animals in that field. Contract language usually uses those terms in different ways as well. In short, I do not see them as synonymous, merely similar, and interchangable in certain, er, limited areas.

I don't use either term in my professional life. Thinking...thinking...nope.

 

[Homburg]

I don't use either term in my professional life. Thinking...thinking...nope.

Probably why I see them differently then.

 

[ataxia.girl]

i try very hard not to think about limits because mine are scary hard to find. i don't like to think about things that i would do if told, that i really wouldn't want to and should not do. In general i rely on my owner to set my limits and they are often due more to my circumstances than my willingness.

There are some things though that i have found i really really do not like and turn me off right away like orgasm control. I am Uncle Jack's now and if he decided he wanted to do that then i would comply but i think twice about hooking up with someone who likes that. i also hate hate hate receiving oral sex. i could see these 2 things if pushed on me over a long period of time actually deteriorating the relationship to the point where i wanted out, its doubtful i would leave but i could get to the point where i loathed the person.

Its hard to think of much i wouldn't do if requested though i know they are there. i know there are things that would be so extreme self preservation would kick in and i would refuse and i don't like thinking about that. Its actually very important to me to believe i would do anything my owner asked and extremely hurtful when i am pushed to the point where that illusion is broken. i tend to be an all or nothing, black and white kind of girl and being forced into the gray is actually painful. Life forces me there all the time of course and i have been pushed in the past to the point where the illusion of my endless willingness was shattered for me to see.

i do want to be that girl who would willingly throw herself on her love's funeral pyre, i'm not sure i really am but i have that desire.

 

[fma30f]

hi.

cane is my fad. I have taken upto 30 severe strokes, without skin break. Smeared with gel on bottom and massaged in well, for softness and some anaesthetic effect, during caning.

 

[akittenone]

kitten has a few hard limits, obviously those involving children are the main ones but there is a difference between a hard limit and a limit, kitten loves anal but has a no ass to mouth limit, this Master finds amusing and kitten is sure as time goes by He will push that limit,

 

[LadyC]

kitten has a few hard limits, obviously those involving children are the main ones but there is a difference between a hard limit and a limit, kitten loves anal but has a no ass to mouth limit, this Master finds amusing and kitten is sure as time goes by He will push that limit,

If I were the one who posessed you, I would not allow you to set any limits. If my man-boy refused me the pleasure of his tongue on (or in) my anus, I would punish him by denying him something he desires, something I can easily get along without....such as his orgasm. Soon he would be begging me to use him in this manner.

 

[EmpressFi]

kitten has a few hard limits, obviously those involving children are the main ones but there is a difference between a hard limit and a limit, kitten loves anal but has a no ass to mouth limit, this Master finds amusing and kitten is sure as time goes by He will push that limit,

you could always get a dental dam.. that way, he gets his request fulfilled..and your mouth is protected from e.coli or just the nasty thought of putting a mouth anywhere near fecal matter.

 

[akittenone]

If I were the one who posessed you, I would not allow you to set any limits. If my man-boy refused me the pleasure of his tongue on (or in) my anus, I would punish him by denying him something he desires, something I can easily get along without....such as his orgasm. Soon he would be begging me to use him in this manner.

kitten knows that her limit to some is stupid but just the thought makes her freeze, mind shuts down, so by pushing relentlessly Master knows more damage would be caused, so slowly but surely He chips away at it, and having had a few other limits now broken kitten knows He will help with this one, but denying someone something because of a fear, is this really the right thing to do ?

 

[akittenone]

you could always get a dental dam.. that way, he gets his request fulfilled..and your mouth is protected from e.coli or just the nasty thought of putting a mouth anywhere near fecal matter.

if kitten ever gets that far she will remember this advise,, thank you

 

[EmpressFi]

kitten knows that her limit to some is stupid but just the thought makes her freeze, mind shuts down, so by pushing relentlessly Master knows more damage would be caused, so slowly but surely He chips away at it, and having had a few other limits now broken kitten knows He will help with this one, but denying someone something because of a fear, is this really the right thing to do ?

Some dominants think it is the right thing to do... or their right at least. Most of the good ones follow the "I wont break my toys" idea, while some see it as how best for you to show your submission and devotion by carrying out an order despite that fear.

 

[LadyC]

kitten knows that her limit to some is stupid but just the thought makes her freeze, mind shuts down, so by pushing relentlessly Master knows more damage would be caused, so slowly but surely He chips away at it, and having had a few other limits now broken kitten knows He will help with this one, but denying someone something because of a fear, is this really the right thing to do ?

I know my Billy-boy's limits better than he does. In some of his on line fantasies he dreams of many things I am sure would be harmful to him; therefore, I do not take him there.

 

[EmpressFi]

I know my Billy-boy's limits better than he does. In some of his on line fantasies he dreams of many things I am sure would be harmful to him; therefore, I do not take him there.

So, what if your Billy-boy's limit to placing his mouth against your anus wasnt a limit but a fear.. a true, heart-ripping, anxiety trip causing fear that you KNEW about.. would you still

punish him by denying him something he desires, something I can easily get along without....such as his orgasm. Soon he would be begging me to use him in this manner.

?

 

[akittenone]

I know my Billy-boy's limits better than he does. In some of his on line fantasies he dreams of many things I am sure would be harmful to him; therefore, I do not take him there.

The sign of a good Master/Mistress is that they know thier property, indeed they know them better at times then we know ourselves, hence why Master pushes but knows when to step back and change directions, bit by bit kitten feels the wall crumbling, maybe one day it will fall

 

[Homburg]

Therein lies the rub. My experience has been that there most of the hard limits that I've heard expressed are actually soft limits, and most soft limits are just things she doesn't like. The real hard limits are the ones that every one expresses, and then the wierd ones that make you freak out for no discernible reason.

If you feel that wall crumbling, it's not a hard limit. If it freaks you out badly just by thinking about it, it is probably a hard limit.

 

[LadyC]

So, what if your Billy-boy's limit to placing his mouth against your anus wasnt a limit but a fear.. a true, heart-ripping, anxiety trip causing fear that you KNEW about.. would you still ?

Actually, this is not something Billy-boy fears. In fact, oral-anal contact was one of his favorite sexual pleasures before I took possession of him. I have never had to deny him anything at all because of fear.

 

[desertslave]

If you feel that wall crumbling, it's not a hard limit. If it freaks you out badly just by thinking about it, it is probably a hard limit.

That's very close to my litmus test. If something is presented to me and I think 'oh hell no' but my pussy has other ideas, it's probably something I need to think more about (and probably talk to Master about, lord help me).

However, if something gives me that adrenaline-pounding fight or flight sensation, it's probably a "don't even think about it" concept. A friend suggested a small bunch of us get pedicures together, once. I suddenly wanted to be ANYWHERE else in the mall. The concept of having a stranger touch my feet is horrific to me. Master knows, and has very kindly not even jested about this for a long, long time. (whew!)

 

[Homburg]

That's very close to my litmus test. If something is presented to me and I think 'oh hell no' but my pussy has other ideas, it's probably something I need to think more about (and probably talk to Master about, lord help me).

However, if something gives me that adrenaline-pounding fight or flight sensation, it's probably a "don't even think about it" concept. A friend suggested a small bunch of us get pedicures together, once. I suddenly wanted to be ANYWHERE else in the mall. The concept of having a stranger touch my feet is horrific to me. Master knows, and has very kindly not even jested about this for a long, long time. (whew!)

Precisely.

Actually, the pussy test is the exact one I use. When she starts saying that she doesn't want something, or is not interested, I will usually ask how her pussy feels, or just give it a feel. Sopping wet? Yeah, her pussy has different ideas, and it is her mouth that hasn't gotten up to speed yet.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Actually, the pussy test is the exact one I use. When she starts saying that she doesn't want something, or is not interested, I will usually ask how her pussy feels, or just give it a feel. Sopping wet? Yeah, her pussy has different ideas, and it is her mouth that hasn't gotten up to speed yet.

Oh damn... my pussy has just had an idea.

 

[LadyC]

The pussy test is interesting. I'd consider something similar with Billy-boy (hardness test) but as soon as he knows he is going to be worked, he has had full, almost dripping erection.

 

[Homburg]

Oh damn... my pussy has just had an idea.

Are you sure? Maybe I should check...

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Are you sure? Maybe I should check...

Ooh, check away... check every inch of me if you must.

*sigh*

 

[Homburg]

Ooh, check away... check every inch of me if you must.

*sigh*

Can I hold onto this offer for any possible trip to the UK?

 

[akittenone]

Therein lies the rub. My experience has been that there most of the hard limits that I've heard expressed are actually soft limits, and most soft limits are just things she doesn't like. The real hard limits are the ones that every one expresses, and then the wierd ones that make you freak out for no discernible reason.

If you feel that wall crumbling, it's not a hard limit. If it freaks you out badly just by thinking about it, it is probably a hard limit.

The mere though of it does freak kitten, always has but as kitten strives to be all she can for Master and as kitten knows this is something He desires she knows she needs to close her mind off and accept what He wants, but unfotunatly knowing and the actual doin are two different things and that is where the problem lies.

kitten has tried many time, gets so far, lol her previous Master even tried while she was bound so she could not move, shall we say the end result was kitten being punished !

It is a fear, a stupid illogical far but a fear non the less and this Master accepts and slowly kitten is trying and with His help she knows eventually she will please Him as He wishes, but its the slow and steady moving towards breaking that barrier that makes kitten love and respect Him more,

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Can I hold onto this offer for any possible trip to the UK?

What do you want, a cheque?

 

[Homburg]

What do you want, a cheque?

*wanders off to print this out*