What is your true opinion of "switches"?

Stag of Oberon said:
I'm confused here... and too lazy to do a web search just now.

What's Godwin's law?

(compliments to wikipedia)

Godwin's law (also Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states that:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
 
jasonlf said:
(compliments to wikipedia)

Godwin's law (also Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states that:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

There's also a couple myths (or not? :p ) associated with it. The first is that the person who makes the nazi analogy has lost the argument by having to resort to a nazi analogy. In my experience, that's not true. The other one, I think, is that by invoking it on purpose you make the first myth untrue for the particular discussion. But I'm not sure if that implies to invoking it the way you did or to invoking it by purposefully making a nazi or hitler analogy.
 
I'm dom and I think that my slave might be a switch. She likes to submit to me, but I think that she wants to either be vanilla or dom with others. Of course, that may simply be due to her lack of trust of others. She has a strong, assertive side, as well as a sweet, submissive one, for sure. So, it's quite possible that she's a switch. That doesn't bother me. As long as she obeys me, she can dominate others or help me dominate others. She and I are also swingers, so that is more practical with us than it would be with some. She understands that she must inform or include me with her flings and vice versa.

By the way, I'm bisexual and I defy anyone to claim that my sexual preference doesn't exist. She calls herself bicurious.
 
Stag of Oberon said:
I've only known a few people whom I would say are 100% one way or the other(In person)

If you count the folks on here, that pinch of sand becomes a handful, though I can't say I really know most of the people on here.

I digress...

You Marquis, are one of the few people I would say are completely Dom.

I've also noticed that a fair number of "whole grain dominants" are loathe to acknowledge the validity of switches, prefering instead the safety of absolutes.

And by the way, enjoying someone else's pleasure on occasion doesn't make you sub. In fact, it's one of my favorite things when I'm Dominant; knowing that I can make someone melt the way I do (oh yeah.. I haven't mentioned rescently, I'm a massage therapist).


nods nods ;)
 
Netzach said:
I was thinking about this recently actually. I remember saying to M "I'd let you top me, any time, you know how much I trust and love you....and I've had fun making you top me in the past...

but after this year I don't think I ever want to bottom AGAIN!!!"

He said "that's because you're a control nut."

I guess if my bottoming jones is overfulfilled by the craziness of illness rather than being increased by it, I should know I'm a control nut and not much of a switch, really.

Hmm, reading this just clicked something for me in my little brain. I wonder.....
I tend to be a control freak in many areas of my life so I crave "control" of someone else's emotions to a certain degree. But my methods are more manipulative to keep myself in control. I'm not sure if I like that feeling though. How to control without feeling the need to manipulate...that is the question. I do feel a great rush of lust when being more submissive sexually but I think it's because I control everything else all the time. The other person usually has no idea that I'm "controlling/manipulating" them in other ways, so submission can bring a nice balance to my brain sometimes. With men that is....

I haven't had a chance to try this method with women yet. (Still looking for a lovely female lover to dominate)

I have a feeling this is going to be a long, confusing and sometimes frustrating journey for me. Either way, I think I'll always have a "switch" brain. :devil:
 
Funny thing is that although I have a lot of control in my personal and professional life, and come across as assertive and often appear aggressive. Drive a pickup,ride a motorbike, tats etc, leathers and boots, truck driving lessons even.
I never considered myself as anything but submissive sexually. My earliest fantasies were of being dominated, my earliest experiences were with bad boys.
I like pain godammit!
My master says he always knew I could top, it was just a matter of time.
Sub friends say I would make a good dominant, but I simply had no desire to.
I have enough "power" in my life. I wanted to submit, I still need to submit.
But my boy has awakened another need, another craving...
Biography becomes Biology.
 
Soulfiregirl said:
...I have a feeling this is going to be a long, confusing and sometimes frustrating journey for me. Either way, I think I'll always have a "switch" brain. :devil:
Oh, I'll often have a switch, too. But it will be in my hand, not my brain. :rolleyes:
 
DevilsAngel369 said:
what's the exact meaning of a switch, and how are they different from Bisexual?

The first part of your question is extremely difficult to answer, the second part is extremely easy.

Being a switch has nothing to do with the gender orientation of your sexuality. It generally refers to an affinity for both poles on the D/s or S&M continuum.

My definition of a switch is someone who is equally predisposed towards either end of the spectrum intrinsically, and I don't believe they exist (even if only by the precision of the word equally). This differs from one who switches, meaning one who switches between the different roles for whatever reason. They undeniably exist, and arguably we all switch to some degree in that sense.
 
Proud to be a switch!

I don't think it has to be exactly a 50/50 kind of enjoyment to call myself a switch. I undeniably lean toward one side of the equation, but I equally enjoy both when the mood strikes me!
 
Erotic-Kiss said:
I don't think it has to be exactly a 50/50 kind of enjoyment to call myself a switch. I undeniably lean toward one side of the equation, but I equally enjoy both when the mood strikes me!

May I ask which side?
 
Erotic-Kiss said:
I don't think it has to be exactly a 50/50 kind of enjoyment to call myself a switch. I undeniably lean toward one side of the equation, but I equally enjoy both when the mood strikes me!


completely agree
 
Sides...

Marquis said:
May I ask which side?

If I have to be one or the other, I suppose it would be the Dominant side... but mainly (I suspect) because I have never found a man who could completely control me...(nor would I want to be on a 24/7 basis). The fantasy is to find someone who can bind me without ropes... if that makes any sense. I'm just such a strong personality...and love it!
 
Erotic-Kiss said:
If I have to be one or the other, I suppose it would be the Dominant side... but mainly (I suspect) because I have never found a man who could completely control me...(nor would I want to be on a 24/7 basis). The fantasy is to find someone who can bind me without ropes... if that makes any sense. I'm just such a strong personality...and love it!



















































































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Stag of Oberon said:
I Agree as well,
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None the less, there are past GFs that I simply would never have submitted to. Though I can't say the same about Domination, I have known people I simply would never bother to try dominating.. but that's entirely different.

Interesting comment. I'm curious... Why would you have *never* submitted to them? Not enough trust? Not enough interest? Or... are there just women that are so soft and cuddly that the very idea isn't even a turn-on? :)
 
I could never pick one or the other. For me though, it's not always a matter of what mood I'm in, but who I'm around. When I am around people who identify as submissives, I am Dominant, when I'm around most people who identify as Dominants or switches, I'm Dominant or 'normal' ... when it's just Holly and me, I'm as usually submissive as it gets (although I have my moments when it's just not going to happen).
 
Moods

SweetDommes said:
I could never pick one or the other. For me though, it's not always a matter of what mood I'm in, but who I'm around. When I am around people who identify as submissives, I am Dominant, when I'm around most people who identify as Dominants or switches, I'm Dominant or 'normal' ... when it's just Holly and me, I'm as usually submissive as it gets (although I have my moments when it's just not going to happen).

I certainly find that my "mood" depends on who I'm with. It seems to be the natural flow of the existance...
 
My point was that it's not just a "mood" that I get into - my "mood" changes quickly sometimes.
 
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Stag of Oberon said:
A little of Colomn A for a few, a pinch of Colomn B for others, and all of the above in some cases.

Understood. Thanks for clearing that up.

After reading your other post... perhaps I should put on my signature.. "Proud to be a shade of gray." ;)
 
Stag of Oberon said:
In anycase, that doesn't even address the matter of trying to establish whether a shade of purple is closer to black or white. You could ask just about anyone then; "which it is closer to?", and get dozens of answers other than black or white.
Nope, sorry, as far as colors go, purple is closer to black. But, that doesn't have anything to do with being a switch. Stick with the color grey. It has enough shades in it that it could go either way.

And, I agree with you that there are those who will you will never be able to pin down as being a Dom or a sub. Some will edge closer to a Dom and some to a sub. But, there will always be some who have no preference at all and could go either way, if given the proper trigger.

Hey, didn't we cover this already?
 
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