What will history say about Trump?

I see the massive difference in how people caught up in emotion view Trump. But stepping into the future and looking back what do you think history will say about him?
That he was a historical transformative figure in American politics. That he saved America and the Constitution from the Marxist abyss it was teetering on the edge of.
 
As seen above, MAGAts are perpetual victims, even when they win.

So MAGAts, now that you control the four main branches of government, show us how you're gonna make this the new "golden era".

Where did I say were were victims???

Are you illiterate?
 
The most certain way Trump could be always remembered in a favorable light would be if he canceled the National debt.

He’ll probably threaten the Fed with that to get them to do his bidding.
 
The most certain way Trump could be always remembered in a favorable light would be if he canceled the National debt.

He’ll probably threaten the Fed with that to get them to do his bidding.
That would mean millions of debt holders would lose money, maybe even their life savings.These debt instruments are held by a wide range of investors—domestic and foreign governments, pension funds, banks, and private citizens. Cancelling the debt would mean the U.S. government would default on these obligations It would be a breach of contract and a loss of confidence in U.S. financial markets.
 
That would mean millions of debt holders would lose money, maybe even their life savings.These debt instruments are held by a wide range of investors—domestic and foreign governments, pension funds, banks, and private citizens. Cancelling the debt would mean the U.S. government would default on these obligations It would be a breach of contract and a loss of confidence in U.S. financial markets.

…so Trump would wield a lot of leverage by threatening to do it.

He’s a populist and a business fraud, not an economist. He would forever bask in the glory of sticking it to the banks and anyone who ever turned him brown for a loan.

He would be immune from any prosecution if he did it as an executive act.
 
…so Trump would wield a lot of leverage by threatening to do it.

He’s a populist and a business fraud, not an economist. He would forever bask in the glory of sticking it to the banks and anyone who ever turned him brown for a loan.

He would be immune from any prosecution if he did it as an executive act.
That's BS Alex, the kind that lost your side the election. Try telling the truth for a change and recoup some credibility that might not have been irretrievably lost.
 
That he was a historical transformative figure in American politics. That he saved America and the Constitution from the Marxist abyss it was teetering on the edge of.
No future historian will ever diagnose America in 2016 as tending towards Marxism.
 
The most certain way Trump could be always remembered in a favorable light would be if he canceled the National debt.

He’ll probably threaten the Fed with that to get them to do his bidding.
The president does not have that authority. It is constitutionally doubtful that Congress has that authority.
 
Why do u feel its relevant to go way back into the history books to justify your argument? Thats dumb and whats done is done there. 2nd) who cares if there are activists there. Your always gonna have whiny karens that think their minority opinions should be catered to by the majority. That may sway someone like u, but idgaf about those peoples whining.
Let me just say this about that.
The Sioux Nation cares very much about it. They want the land back.
As long as you’re feeling all Manifest Destiny. remember those rules are still in effect.
If mightiest makes rightiest, be ready to be the fightiest. Hang on to it as long as you can.

A friend of mine is a doomsday prepper. He keeps a year’s worth of everything in storage.
His neighbor has a .44 mag and 1,000 rounds of ammo. He tells him as long as he has his Blackhawk,
he knows where he can find plenty of food.
 
Lenin was not anti-Russian and Eugene Debs was not anti-American.
Russia wasn't an ideological state at that point in time, the USA is.

Of course he was, as are all socialist. Your ideology is inherently authoritarian at modern nation state scales and flies in the face of the liberal values the USA was founded upon. The elimination of private property, an individual right to ones own labor and free commerce (socialism) is quite literally as anti-American as it gets.....

There is a reason authoritarian collectivist of every type have traditionally been seen as anti-American.....because they are.
 
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A 13 million vote positive swing after j6, 91 indictments, 34 felony convictions, multiple lawyers brought on charges, cabinet members in prison, and a shitload more.


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Russia wasn't an ideological state at that point in time, the USA is.
No, the U.S. is a nation-state like France, not an idea-state like the USSR.

A nation is not its political constitution. France has had five monarchies, five republics, and a fascist dictatorship. Yet through it all, France remains France. And a monarchical or theocratic or Communist or fascist America would remain America.
 
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Depressing Radicalized democrats is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel…

A few things that should really give y’all the shits…


All the above are great news for the country, but my personal favorite will be this:

  • The traditional media structure sympathetic to their views, and hostile to Trump's, was shattered.

The Liberal Legacy Media has finally been undermined. Their biased one sided reporting over the years will hopefully be eclipsed by alternative media. The days of abccbsmsnbcnbcnprpbs putting their thumbs on the scale in favor of one party are over. Well, I doubt over, but they’ll never enjoy the influence they once had.
 
Depressing Radicalized democrats is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel…

A few things that should really give y’all the shits…



All the above are great news for the country, but my personal favorite will be this:



The Liberal Legacy Media has finally been undermined. Their biased one sided reporting over the years will hopefully be eclipsed by alternative media. The days of abccbsmsnbcnbcnprpbs putting their thumbs on the scale in favor of one party are over. Well, I doubt over, but they’ll never enjoy the influence they once had.
Now.
If we could just keep Fox from preaching to the choir
 
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All the above are great news for the country, but my personal favorite will be this:
None of it is great news for the country unless the next four years are good for the country. The terrible news for that outlook is that we already have seen what four years of a Trump presidency is and it was horrible. You GOP MAGA dumbfucks get to gloat all you want about the election but the reality is everything is in place for him now so if he doesn't deliver on all his promises and he doesn't make things better - and he didn't do ANY of that the last time he had four years to do so - you all continue to look like the complete idiots you looked like with your ballots.
 
None of it is great news for the country unless the next four years are good for the country. The terrible news for that outlook is that we already have seen what four years of a Trump presidency is and it was horrible. You GOP MAGA dumbfucks get to gloat all you want about the election but the reality is everything is in place for him now so if he doesn't deliver on all his promises and he doesn't make things better - and he didn't do ANY of that the last time he had four years to do so - you all continue to look like the complete idiots you looked like with your ballots.
Close the border....Flood the American Economy with Domestic Energy Supplies / Transportation Fuels....Cut Taxes....Roll back the Regulatory environment.....If it was good enough for the John F Kennedy administration....Should be OK for the Trump Administration....Dumb F###....!!!
 
Russia wasn't an ideological state at that point in time, the USA is.

Of course he was, as are all socialist. Your ideology is inherently authoritarian at modern nation state scales and flies in the face of the liberal values the USA was founded upon. The elimination of private property, an individual right to ones own labor and free commerce (socialism) is quite literally as anti-American as it gets.....

There is a reason authoritarian collectivist of every type have traditionally been seen as anti-American.....because they are.
If socialsm is such an anathema, let’s see all the bailout artists stand clear when the next bubble pops.
It’s Capitalism, Uber Alles untill the chits come due. Then it’s, ‘Help a brother out. We’re too big to fail.’
Sorry, Comrade, rules is rules. Failures fail. Take your Tophat or Iron or whatever and leave the board.
Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Find another way to pay your bonus elsewhere. Trump thinks it may work this time. Elon’s loaded. Check his pockets.

Steve Ballmer set up a website, usafacts.org It’s supposed to be reliable data collected from government.
He said the most successful institutions we have in this country are democracy and capitalism.
I tend to agree. He also said democracy should inform capitalism. Right now it’s the other way around.
I could not agree more.
 
Right now we can guarantee that Trump's tariffs, if he is allowed to raise them, will be more inflationary than the worst we experienced during the Biden administration. If Trump tries to balance the budget without significantly raising taxes on the rich and corporations, that will harm the working class and lower middle class people who voted for him.

Closing the border and deporting illegal immigrants will help Trump with his lower income constituency.
How do you lower corporate tax without increasing the cost of goods and services that corporations produce? If they are taxed more they are forced to raise prices. But the governments need for other peoples money will go way down when government waste and abuse is called to account.
 
But the governments need for other peoples money will go way down when government waste and abuse is called to account.
If you ever hear a pol promise to end deficit problems by eliminating waste, ask if he intends to solve energy problems by eliminating friction.
 
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