Why the Department of Education?

[Politruk]

Last time I checked, it was the lefties promoting segregation and trying to remove laws against it, so they can create those 'safe spaces' for minorities.

You haven't checked.

 

[TastySuckToy]

You haven't checked.

Yes, I have. Lefties are pushing segregation all the time, and try to dress it up as 'helping' minorities:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...vision-racist-civil-rights-column/4587577002/

https://www.thefp.com/p/black-nationalist-josh-shapiro-segregation-bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation

https://tnc.news/2024/01/29/campus-watch-university-racially-segregated-swim3/

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

No, get rid of the DoE and let parents decide which local school districts are doing a good job or not with their children.

Parents can already do that.

 

[Politruk]

Yes, I have. Lefties are pushing segregation all the time, and try to dress it up as 'helping' minorities:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...vision-racist-civil-rights-column/4587577002/

https://www.thefp.com/p/black-nationalist-josh-shapiro-segregation-bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation

https://tnc.news/2024/01/29/campus-watch-university-racially-segregated-swim3/

Even you should be able to tell the difference between all that sort of thing and Jim Crow. It is sometimes silly but never oppressive.

 

[Ramone45]

I support eliminating the Department of Education because I dislike bureaucracies. But I don't think it deserves all the blame for the decline in education ranking of the United States. The rapid decline of the traditional nuclear family co-incided with the establishment od the Department of Education. The mid 1970's represented a huge shift in socioeconomic norms in the United States. This is when the term Latchkey kids was revived in the parlance of the times. I believe the decline in the traditional nuclear family had as least as big an impact on education as the establishment of the Department of Education. Thats when we began to abdicate the responsibilities of parenting to the schools.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Much of what you state smacks of ignorance.

your vitriol aside, do you personally support the concept of "school choice", i.e. public tax dollars sent to subsidize tuition at "approved" private schools?

Would you feel the same if you had children?

Personally, I think "school choice" is a horrible idea.

 

[Politruk]

I support eliminating the Department of Education because I dislike bureaucracies. But I don't think it deserves all the blame for the decline in education ranking of the United States. The rapid decline of the traditional nuclear family co-incided with the establishment od the Department of Education. The mid 1970's represented a huge shift in socioeconomic norms in the United States. This is when the term Latchkey kids was revived in the parlance of the times. I believe the decline in the traditional nuclear family had as least as big an impact on education as the establishment of the Department of Education. Thats when we began to abdicate the responsibilities of parenting to the schools.

Well, the traditional nuclear family ain't coming back. So any plans we make for education will have to be based on that assumption.

 

[rgraham666]

"The Department of Education should be abolished." That seems to be one of those definitional things any Republican or conservative HAS to say.

But nobody ever seems to mention what objectionable things that department is doing.

For many people an education would undo every thing they know and believe.

So it has to go.

 

[PersonalFavors]

"The Department of Education should be abolished." That seems to be one of those definitional things any Republican or conservative HAS to say.

But nobody ever seems to mention what objectionable things that department is doing.

Where have you been the last 3 years 10 months. Amy Winegarten? Installing trans and LGBTQ-NPR weirdo's "teaching" Kindergarten and the transvestites dancing at parties for kids? Jesus. The department was useful at one point. they actually tried to set standards to evaluate if teachers were actually teaching kids. Which in this day and age should be heavily accelerated. In know a kid 14 in 9th grade set to chose Calculus or Physics next year. Its a shame she wants to be an attorney.

 

[Ramone45]

Well, the traditional nuclear family ain't coming back. So any plans we make for education will have to be based on that assumption.

I think that it's at least possible that the traditional nuclear family could come back. Definitely a heavy lift. Seismic societal shift. Prioritize the 20-40 year old democgraphic as opposed to elders who should be able to provide for their own retirements after a lifetime of earning. Investing in youth has a bigger ROI. Single family income. We did it before and it worked at least as good if not better than things are now. My mom wouldn't want me to be fed government cheese for lunch.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Where have you been the last 3 years 10 months. Amy Winegarten? Installing trans and LGBTQ-NPR weirdo's "teaching" Kindergarten and the transvestites dancing at parties for kids? Jesus. The department was useful at one point. they actually tried to set standards to evaluate if teachers were actually teaching kids. Which in this day and age should be heavily accelerated. In know a kid 14 in 9th grade set to chose Calculus or Physics next year. Its a shame she wants to be an attorney.

Who is Amy Winegarten??

 

[SevMax2]

There are so many federal departments and agencies, so why fixate on that one? It really is a weird obsession for the right.

 

[SevMax2]

Well, the traditional nuclear family ain't coming back. So any plans we make for education will have to be based on that assumption.

The traditional nuclear family is actually an anomaly in history, and relatively new. For most of human history, extended or tribal types of families were far more common, and they tended to help with a lot of issues, especially child care and pooling finances.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I think that it's at least possible that the traditional nuclear family could come back. Definitely a heavy lift. Seismic societal shift. Prioritize the 20-40 year old democgraphic as opposed to elders who should be able to provide for their own retirements after a lifetime of earning. Investing in youth has a bigger ROI. Single family income. We did it before and it worked at least as good if not better than things are now. My mom wouldn't want me to be fed government cheese for lunch.

https://imgur.com/vu7qiMA

 

[Lazaran]

In know a kid 14 in 9th grade set to chose Calculus or Physics next year.

Um,….

 

[ishtat]

do you personally support the concept of "school choice", i.e. public tax dollars sent to subsidize tuition at "approved" private schools?Would you feel the same if you had children?
Personally, I think "school choice" is a horrible idea.

About 35% of all children from years 6 to 12 in Australia are educated in private schools which receive major funding on a per capita basis from the Federal government. They consistently produce better results than the public system, and in net terms cost the taxpayer much less.

 

[TastySuckToy]

There are so many federal departments and agencies, so why fixate on that one? It really is a weird obsession for the right.

Who said it's only that one? I expect and want many agencies to be gutted. The government is ridiculously bloated.

 

[Politruk]

Who said it's only that one? I expect and want many agencies to be gutted. The government is ridiculously bloated.

Efficiency could be improved. But there is nothing the federal government does that we would be better off without, and nothing the states or the private sector could do better.

 

[AceDesSpades]

The Department of Education has only been around since 1980, so it's not one of the essential departments of the federal government. Education is run at the state level. Has its existence done much to improve the quality of education in the US, enough to justify a $68 billion annual budget? Probably not. Probably, that spending has been in part responsible for the dramatic increase in the cost of education since 1980. My guess is if you got rid of it there would be a negligible impact on education in the US over time.

And it trickled upward exacerbated by the notion that every child deserves a college education while The President0in-Exit's idea of trade school is 'teaching them to code.'

We need to end the pumping of JOBS money to the Left for all of those useless in the real word degrees that they use to tout their superiority as they seek to ride us, booted and heels. That's all we are doing is giving them an escape from the real world, a Glass Bead Game environment that needs to be shattered.

 

[UltraChad]

your vitriol aside, do you personally support the concept of "school choice", i.e. public tax dollars sent to subsidize tuition at "approved" private schools?

100%

Would you feel the same if you had children?

I do have children, I send them to private schools, because I don't hate them.

Personally, I think "school choice" is a horrible idea.

Why??

 

[AceDesSpades]

I support eliminating the Department of Education because I dislike bureaucracies. But I don't think it deserves all the blame for the decline in education ranking of the United States. The rapid decline of the traditional nuclear family co-incided with the establishment od the Department of Education. The mid 1970's represented a huge shift in socioeconomic norms in the United States. This is when the term Latchkey kids was revived in the parlance of the times. I believe the decline in the traditional nuclear family had as least as big an impact on education as the establishment of the Department of Education. Thats when we began to abdicate the responsibilities of parenting to the schools.

This is part of it. The breakup of the black family by the welfare state whose reward system encouraged and fostered the fatherless mother.

Altruism never examines its unintended consequences.

 

[UltraChad]

Well, the traditional nuclear family ain't coming back. So any plans we make for education will have to be based on that assumption.

If the government stopped attacking it.

And nah, we don't need a federal education to deal with it.

Says the drooling moron who can't tell a Democrat from a Communist, and thinks Gateway Pundit is an actual source to cite.

Says the drooling moron who can't tell a Libertarian from a neoliberal and thinks a KnockOffWiki is an actual source to cite....

 

[UltraChad]

There are so many federal departments and agencies, so why fixate on that one? It really is a weird obsession for the right.

Because you fuck head psychopaths are abusing our kids.

I'm honestly shocked more public school teachers and administrators haven't been taken out for the bullshit they pull with other peoples kids.

 

[AceDesSpades]

Because you fuck head are abusing our kids and we're about sick and fucking tired of it.

Jeese BB, can you tone it down a bit? Act like you've been here before crushing the out-of-control ATC...

 

[UltraChad]

Jeese BB, can you tone it down a bit? Act like you've been here before crushing the out-of-control ATC...

ATC??