Your Most Common Negative Feedback

[HeyAll]

Without a doubt, that I don't write sequels. This comes from the Incest crowd, where a large percentage of stories are sequals.

 

[Smuttyandfun]

No matter how carefully I read a story before submission, I always miss a few words. And the kindly readers usually point it out for me, too.

 

[Duleigh]

In general-of course it probably depends on the category-a lot of men don't seem to know, or want to know, what consent is.

Not that anyone has the time for this, but if you were to write the exact same story, but have the man in the woman's place, suddenly they'd be whining it was rape.

Because that's all many male readers do on this site is whine.

I'd love the whining, I cannot stand the self righteous silent uno-bombers. who lob a clusterbomb at my entire catalogue without a reason why. I just had a minisweep come by and crank the score up a full tenth of a point on a story by just sweeping 1 vote. Is it because of the interracial marriage? my questioning the "wisdom" of the Military-industrial complex? the description of the violent injuries caused by an arrogant fighter pilot? (it was pretty gross) Maybe he didn't like me calling fighter pilots "Stick actuators"? was it my punctuation?

 

[lc69hunter]

When a cheating wife story doesn't end in BTB, the operative phrase is cuck/whore

 

[lovecraft68]

I'd love the whining, I cannot stand the self righteous silent uno-bombers. who lob a clusterbomb at my entire catalogue without a reason why. I just had a minisweep come by and crank the score up a full tenth of a point on a story by just sweeping 1 vote. Is it because of the interracial marriage? my questioning the "wisdom" of the Military-industrial complex? the description of the violent injuries caused by an arrogant fighter pilot? (it was pretty gross) Maybe he didn't like me calling fighter pilots "Stick actuators"? was it my punctuation?

Odds are the mistake within your story is....you posted it. That's all it takes with the trolls here.
I keep hearing this said in Barbara from Shark Tank's voice "Your story was well written, had great characters, intriguing plot, and hot sex. And for those reasons...have a one."

 

[avatar_roku]

I mostly write Incest stories. My focus in on the emotional and mental journey of the characters. The most common criticism I get are variations of - "Not enough sex" which probably is true.

 

[thomas1965]

I get hardly any comments, and I find that annoying. I’d like to hear feedback. Also frustrating is that people seem to either rate my stories a 5 or a 1. 75% 5s are eaten alive by 25% 1s. The trolling is discouraging.

Why do you call it trolling?
People have different tastes and some don't your story at all and give you a 1*.
Trolling would imply that some people hate you and want to annoy you. Do you have any evidence for it?

 

[RejectReality]

There's two in this pen name. The first is that I never "finish a story". Most accept that the sex was the point of the story, and that more would be just more screwing, but a few always want the story to come to some sort of grand conclusion. Happily ever after. That's not realistically in the cards for a lot of my stuff in this name, and even when it is, there's simply no interesting conflict to inspire me to write about it.

The other is that the sex comes too easily. I agree — to some extent — but it's also the standard I've set in this name. It's for quickie stroke material. These people want to fuck, and all I'm doing is putting them in a place and a mind space to make that happen. One rung higher on the suspension of disbelief ladder than "Is there another way I can pay for this pizza?"

 

[ElectricBlue]

Why do you call it trolling?
People have different tastes and some don't your story at all and give you a 1*.
Trolling would imply that some people hate you and want to annoy you. Do you have any evidence for it?

There's a long track record of deliberately malicious voting which is nothing to do with people merely scoring a one because they've read a story and don't like it.

It's extremely well documented behaviour, to the extent that the site runs regular sweeps to remove spurious or deliberately hostile votes, using a variety of check methods that we don't discuss, for obvious reasons. I joined the site in 2014, and it was a known problem then, and the sweep system was already in place.

It's called trolling, because that's what it is. It happens to us all, as evidenced by the number of votes dropping and your score moving up, every time a sweep runs through the data.

 

[lovecraft68]

Evidence? We’re in court, are we? it seems quite clear to me that rating a story a 1 is not merely a statement that the reader didn’t personally find it to their taste. Simply move on if it isn’t your kink or your style. Pressing the button to rate a story a 1 is an intentional, highly negative message. How about a 3? Or a 2?

It’s like a political statement people feel they are making.

Not that any of us publishing on lit is Hemingway, but one can not like ‘A Farewell to Arms’ while respecting it and the effort and creative energy that went into it - and certainly not actively trashing it.

There's plenty of evidence.

However, the issue is that because of it no one thinks there is such a thing as a legit low vote. Any one has to be a troll because how could anyone not like their masterpiece. The sweeps are needed, but cut too deep especially in contests. The Summer loving winner finished with a 4.96 basically telling me the site literally didn't think there was a legit bad vote throughout the entire thing.

But because of it there are people who I suspect bomb themselves in contests to keep getting sweeps on a low vote total story to get a cheap high score.

Its like anything else, where there are people, there is bad behavior.

 

[RejectReality]

But because of it there are people who I suspect bomb themselves in contests to keep getting sweeps on a low vote total story to get a cheap high score.

Its like anything else, where there are people, there is bad behavior.

Not that I can't conceive of it, but who would have to? LOL I can't think of a single contest story that hasn't taken a sudden dive before the sun even came up the day of release. Regardless of the source or reasoning, it's a given across the board as far as I can tell.

 

[TadOverdon]

"No one would ever..."

That's right. It's not realistic, and I don't care.

 

[Trionyx]

I’ve written a few stories where the main male character tries to work with the struggling female and gives her the benefit of the doubt. Then the comments fly about him being a pussy. So sad, particularly because I like to write about normal people, some of whom have emotional issues and hangups.

 

[lovecraft68]

Not that I can't conceive of it, but who would have to? LOL I can't think of a single contest story that hasn't taken a sudden dive before the sun even came up the day of release. Regardless of the source or reasoning, it's a given across the board as far as I can tell.

We know the final sweep comes in, which like you said, I don't know why anyone bothers bombing someone at that point. But there are sweeps leading up to as well.

It doesn't matter, I know what I saw when I followed a certain person's story which was easy to track due to the low vote total.

But that's par for the course, gaming evolves, the site at some point catches on, adjusts, then they find another loophole.

 

[lovecraft68]

I’ve written a few stories where the main male character tries to work with the struggling female and gives her the benefit of the doubt. Then the comments fly about him being a pussy. So sad, particularly because I like to write about normal people, some of whom have emotional issues and hangups.

I get the same comments all the time-I know one is the same person-who asks if I ever write a male character that's not a wimp

The reasons my characters are wimps are in a mother son, I have the son actually hesitate and kind of let his mother take the lead, same in milf stories because I just don't believe a 20 year old is taking the reins when in bed with a woman twice his age and a lot ore experienced,

Thing is these aren't femdom stories, the young guy isn't being humiliated, and in the end he gets the ride of a lifetime. But "bitch get on your knees' is the only way these guys think a woman should be treated

 

[RejectReality]

We know the final sweep comes in, which like you said, I don't know why anyone bothers bombing someone at that point. But there are sweeps leading up to as well.

It doesn't matter, I know what I saw when I followed a certain person's story which was easy to track due to the low vote total.

But that's par for the course, gaming evolves, the site at some point catches on, adjusts, then they find another loophole.

I suppose it could be a viable strategy, but it would only work under the narrowest circumstances and require near constant monitoring. One sweep while you're snoozing, and the whole thing could go up in smoke from a couple of 4s. Hell, one or two people voting with any degree of nuance could derail it at any moment even if you did catch every sweep as soon as it went through — especially on day 1 of publication where it's front and center no matter what you do.

Like I said, not inconceivable, but that's some serious dedication to make something like that work even 10% of the time. The very thing that makes it possible ( the wide swings in score ) also make it hard as hell to pull off.

 

[SimonDoom]

"No one would ever..."

That's right. It's not realistic, and I don't care.

This is the type of criticism that annoys me most. I think it's fair to criticize the author if the author sets up a certain kind of world, with certain kinds of rules, and then violates those rules. But there's nothing wrong with imagining a world that operates by different rules. There's nothing wrong with writing a story about people who constitute a minority of the population, even a very small minority. No author should feel constrained to write a story that conforms with a majority or statistical mean view of things. That kind of thing runs contrary to the whole point of creative fiction, IMO.

The thing these kinds of critics fail and refuse to accept is that there really ARE people who, in the realm of sex, violate all kinds of things most people consider norms, and it's fun and perfectly OK to write your stories based on non-normal people like that.

 

[CyranoJ]

I don't have a single most common type of negative feedback. I have had a few memorable cases: I had one case of someone telling me *I* was the "real racist" in response to "Heart Like a Lion" (a comment I eventually deleted as being pretty obvious projection), I had another respondent to that story claim (bizarrely but rather touchingly) that it was too derivative from Of Mice and Men, and I get a fair number of other responses to that story that say "I wouldn't normally have opened this story but I'm glad I did because [X]." I get a few odd cases of people critiquing "realism" or the development of characters (which is fair, but I've never modified a story b/c of it). Had the odd example of someone basically telling me the NC/R category shouldn't exist and I should be ashamed for writing in it (I delete those with no hesitation).

I actually haven't gotten a lot of negative feedback beyond those examples.

 

[lovecraft68]

Like I said, not inconceivable, but that's some serious dedication to make something like that work even 10% of the time. The very thing that makes it possible ( the wide swings in score ) also make it hard as hell to pull off.

I agree, its way more work than I could see the average person putting in for a few dollars and blue W

But...think about you know who and the ridiculous amount of work it took to create legions of alts, run up and down the top lists on a daily basis, and all the other crazy crap they did for years. You can never rule anything out with narcissist's

 

[Bubo_bubo]

I doubt they came from the incel crowd:





I can't even take them fully as negative feedback because they both include positives (I have writing skills, made someone think about relationships, and wrote a hot sex scene, woohoo!). There was thought behind these comments, which is why I don't attribute them to the incel crowd. They weren't just reciting things they heard in soundbites that made their comments seem important. They came across as genuine and unique complaints. Even though I disagree with their view of rape, I understand that theirs is a common view, so I'm not about to argue it either. I don't think incels would've bothered to actually read the story enough to have a basic grasp of the theme I wrote nor would they have offered anything even remotely positive directed toward me in their comments.

(And yes, my most common negative feedback is two comments, lol. I don't think anyone else has ever agreed with another commenter on a negative aspect. I'd have to go back and read all of the comments to be sure, but nothing is sticking out in my memory.)

OK, I see.

Though for the first one it's not immediately clear what their issue is, for the second one it seems to be that he takes issue with how you defined rape, rather than whether or not something that would be considered rape outside marriage is a-OK within marriage (which is what I understood from your paraphrase, hence my comment).

 

[Bazzle]

English English. Grammar...then

My best one - watching paint dry would be preferable to reading my story.

Can't really complain. It may have been exciting paint?

 

[other2other1]

Early on, most of my negative feedback was about my spelling, grammar and syntax. I'm fine with that, I know that I am not the greatest literature guru (I'm and Aussie ), and aside from a few trolls that constantly want to act like jerks, most of the negative feedback I am now getting is about my style or writing. Again I am fine with this, I know my Loving Wives stories are not for everyone. I don't write cuck and my BTB's are a little different than most.

If we look at negative feedback and remove the worst as just readers that need a chance to act like children regardless of what they are reading, about half the negative feedback is helpful. Some people that give negative feedback are really trying to help, others are just jerks. If people want to help, don't just give a comment and walk away, offer to help. i'd welcome it

 

[yowser]

My 'readership' if you can call it that, finds much to complain about, in multiple areas of my output. The only two patterns that stand out are:

The LW crew seems to have 'cuck shit' on their speed-dial.

Others discern subversive literary pretensions in some of my stories, so I get things like: 'You're writing about sticking your dick up someone's butt you don't have to write like Hemingway. It makes for very awkward reading' and in a different story: 'No need to show off your vocabulary.'

I shall carry on.

 

[8letters]

I have 6 I/T stories with a 4.8+ rating. Lots of comments, most of them very positive. The occasional very negative comment makes me laugh. An example:

This is badly written. Very unexciting. I see people like it, but what the fuck? The tone is a flat dead tone. There is no life to this. The writing lacks energy.

You know, you can't please everyone.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I'd love the whining, I cannot stand the self righteous silent uno-bombers. who lob a clusterbomb at my entire catalogue without a reason why. I just had a minisweep come by and crank the score up a full tenth of a point on a story by just sweeping 1 vote. Is it because of the interracial marriage? my questioning the "wisdom" of the Military-industrial complex? the description of the violent injuries caused by an arrogant fighter pilot? (it was pretty gross) Maybe he didn't like me calling fighter pilots "Stick actuators"? was it my punctuation?

It could be anything. This is what happens when you have tens of thousands of anonymous people who are free to do whatever they wish. I was trying to find a quote that explains this, but the best I can find so far is by Oscar Wilde. "Why was I born with such contemporaries?" Maybe Dorothy Parker has one; I'll have to check.