1 in 4 Americans think the Sun goes around the Earth. Does it matter?

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[RobDownSouth]

God damn right, fat boy.

You still 6'2" and 220 right? That's a BMI of 28.3.

Funny how I keep asking this question and you run away.

Must be that speshul retreat technique they taught you in Boot Camp.

 

[Sean Renaud]

They fall asleep during the "wonders of Liberalism course" and are completely out by the time science rolls around...look at our rank in the world.

Yes, look at our rank in the world compared to conservative Europe. Even if you believe that they are teaching liberalism in schools you still have to explain why you think the rest of the world wouldn't be doing the same.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

How is that when it is run and controlled by left wing administrators and unions?





That aside, the grim truth is KO, these kids were taught by unionized liberals who worship Obama and Obamunism. They are directed and supervised by big liberal bureaucracies of the federal government as well.

And these are all things that the other countries beating us have, and REAL unions with REAL power. Remember a couple years back when the German (I think) Teachers Union struck? That entire country backed em, here teachers are treated as expendable and spoiled. Which is why nobody with the education necessary to teach should. They should go into a profession where they can get paid.

 

[KingOrfeo]

It certainly resembles a brainwashing.

Well, no, actually, it doesn't. Did once, back in the '50s; but, judging by how the Baby Boomers turned out, the brainwashing (anything but radical in content! to the contrary, purely patriotic and conformist and status-quo-is-God in content) did not always take.

 

[KingOrfeo]

How is that when it is run and controlled by left wing administrators and unions?

Because the school administrations still come under popular pressure. Just look at how they pick textbooks in Texas!

 

[dan_c00000]

How does money figure into it?!

Money always figures into anything. For example, take the George C. Marshall Institute and global warming.

The right wing always claims that those evil liberal science people are out to get big money to prove global warming. It turns out, in reality, the ring wing are paying "scientists" big money to claim global warming isn't happening.

 

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[KingOrfeo]

Money always figures into anything. For example, take the George C. Marshall Institute and global warming.

The right wing always claims that those evil liberal science people are out to get big money to prove global warming. It turns out, in reality, the ring wing are paying "scientists" big money to claim global warming isn't happening.

But, nobody is spending any money to teach Ptolemaic cosmology! There's no financial interest at stake.

 

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[KingOrfeo]

America's public education system centrally controlled in Washington DC is now more in the business of political indoctrination than the actual reading, writing, and arithmetic, aspects of "education." It's all about inclusiveness, diversity, the benevolence of the super state, the wonders of Socialism, the horrors of capitalism, and it's greedy capitalists.

Never got any of that in my schools. I did see a cartoon once on the wonders of "public service," but that meant libraries and cops and road-paving and public utilities and everything else that not even you would be insane enough to think of privatizing, no more than you would think of privatizing the USMC; and there was no hint of capitalist-blaming in it.

Of course all schools public and private should be teaching about "inclusiveness, diversity," etc., shouldn't they?

 

[Sean]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...education-report-subject-results-in-full.html

 

[KingOrfeo]

Balanced by what they pick in California.

Not "balanced," no. More a matter of cumulative damage. What comes out is the lowest-common-denominator textbooks objectionable to neither Texans nor Californians, which are such huge-pop states the publishers have to listen to them and all the other states have to live with the results.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The left and the administrative state wants to support itself, the Third World, and it's aspect in the United States, by taxing American business and the civil society on the excuse of "global warming." They want to bleed economic power away from the American private sector.

At this particular juncture why the hell not?

 

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[Joeybagadonuts]

Omg, another thread denying that the sun revolves around the earth! All right thinking
Americans know that the sun revolves around America. WTF

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Well, they have this place, so nothing surprises me as far as what people might believe.

And it operates tax free.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I don't run away from anything. The only person who brings this meaningless shit up and "asking this question" is your other persona "Luke" the drug dealer. Actually I'm a bit under 220 right now. Nobody who knows me would ever describe me as overweight or fat. Sorry Charlie.

I'm six foot four and this morning I weighed 232 pounds. My BMI is 28.3, the same as yours, give or take a tenth of a point. Nobody who knows me would describe me as overweight or fat either.

You're gonna have to come up with a different insult now, the fat/overweight stuff just doesn't cut it anymore. Of course, "not cutting it" is a constant in your life so we won't be surprised if you refuse to admit it....

 

[Phelia]

Hey vetteman, how come you're not answering Sean's question? I'd love to hear your explanation. If I'm following you correctly:

1. The American educational system is failing.
2. We know this because American students' performances are ranked lower than students in other countries.
3. The majority of the countries with better performing students are more liberal than the US and have stronger teachers' unions.

Vetteman's conclusion: America is too liberal and our teachers' unions are too powerful.

I am having a difficult time understanding the logic there, but then again, I did go through the American public school system.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You cannot deny a generation of dumbing down society by a broken liberal educational system. The numbers are in. The emphasis isn't on education, it's on personal gain.

I'm sensing some cognitive dissonance here. You generally approve of personal gain, and disapprove of intellectuality for its own sake. Which is not the liberal POV, and not what liberals would put into an educational system.

 

[Saint Peter]

Hey vetteman, how come you're not answering Sean's question? I'd love to hear your explanation. If I'm following you correctly:

1. The American educational system is failing.
2. We know this because American students' performances are ranked lower than students in other countries.
3. The majority of the countries with better performing students are more liberal than the US and have stronger teachers' unions.

Vetteman's conclusion: America is too liberal and our teachers' unions are too powerful.

I am having a difficult time understanding the logic there, but then again, I did go through the American public school system.

Education bad. Unions bad.

Toe tapping is bad only if you get caught.