AI writing Romance hits the mainstream

[XerXesXu]

I saw an article a few weeks ago saying that book-packagers are working with writers who use AI. They would send the product to a human editor/rewriter who would polish it, then publish it online. Everyone gets a cut.
Someone knocking out 40 novels a year may only be making a couple hundred thousand $ a year, but that gives them time to be with the kids and put aside 2 or 3 hours a day to do some serious writing. Their product is the literary equivalent of a MacDonalds - not something you'd want for you or your family to eat, but people who'll eat shit will buy them.

I believe one person on Lit already participates in such a process; they may have more to add.

I've done some research into exploding rockets etc. All these things AI can't do were long predated by humans attempting these same things they couldn't do. Uncanny.

Some humans can; some humans can't do some things. Some AI can; some AI can't do some things. Pointing out that AI can't do some other things is no objection to it doing what it can do.

 

[AG31]

Every aspect of the story is theirs to control. The names, the actions, the dialogue, the plot, every part can be tweaked exactly how they want it.

And so our descent into mass solipsism accelerates.

And that 2% of the code always turns out to be the critical stuff that causes the multi-billion dollar rocket to explode.

I heard a great description the other day - LLMs make the easy work easier and the hard work harder.

Excellent points.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

maybe smut au naturel might be worth a lot more in the future? silver linings?

Deckard thought too, about his need for real smut; within him an actual hatred once more manifested itself toward his AI generated smut, which he had to care about, as if it lived. The tyranny of an AI writer, he thought. It doesn't know I exist. It has no ability to appreciate the existence of its readers...

-- Philip K. Dick (paraphrased).

You better remove the paraphrased word from your post because that is exactly what Kindred DICK meant with that passage. Androids DO dream of electric women in sheep clothing, and cum lube in them!

*This was the least dadaist KoS*

 

[anthrodisiac]

You better remove the paraphrased word from your post because that is exactly what Kindred DICK meant with that passage. Androids DO dream of electric women in sheep clothing, and cum lube in them!

*This was the least dadaist KoS*

I definitely read that as "electric sheep women."

One-track mind.

 

[Jackie.Hikaru]

Androids DO dream of electric women in sheep clothing, and cum lube in them!

Omg you’re right

 

[nice90sguy]

One of my work collegues has created an AI agent that is creating social media posts that specifically target AI agents that are trading crypto.

Some of the most avid "readers" of online fiction are bots.

I agree that most AI generated fiction is awful right now, and awful in a recognizable way, in terms of style and content. The same applies to music, and the endless stream of Instagram short videos in my feed: It takes me a fraction of a second to recognize them as AI gen, and to move on quickly to the next one.

But I'm certain this will change, because the improvements to AI generated content are happening so quickly.

Let's just call this stuff "content" and not be overly concerned whether it's really art, or creative, or original, or how important it is for the consumer of this content to have an empathetic response -- or even to consider the creator to be a person.

Our childlike tendency to anthromorphise, to imbue stuffed teddy bears with personality, will never go away, and will continue to be exploited for personal (or impersonal) gain.

 

[AG31]

maybe smut au naturel might be worth a lot more in the future? silver linings?

I do see a time in the future where we've become more aware of the idea that a relationship requires an other. Where we bump into thoughts and feelings different from our own. Where we learn to guard against solipsism.

But I'm certain this will change, because the improvements to AI generated content are happening so quickly.

Yes. We can't pin our resistance on being able to recognize from the content that there's no "other" there.

Our childlike tendency to anthromorphise, to imbue stuffed teddy bears with personality, will never go away, and will continue to be exploited for personal (or impersonal) gain.

Stuffed animals rarely lure us into forgetting that relationships require an other.

 

[PennyThompson]

I think that there's a watershed moment coming - but it's not the moment CEOs and CIOs and GenAI evangelists think it's going to be.

Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, or Nvidia what they're doing with all of their profits from selling GPUs to OpenAI

 

[SimonDoom]

I'll paste what I wrote in another thread:

I think this makes the point well. I enjoy hearing a cat purr, in part because it's a real cat. There's an interaction that's meaningful. Same thing with an erotic story. I like knowing there's a real person on the other end of things, sharing their creative work with me. There is value to preserving the "realness" of the connection, even if someone can demonstrate that AI can write an erotic story as well as some authors can.

 

[Cubik]

Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, or Nvidia what they're doing with all of their profits from selling GPUs to OpenAI

And never post links to articles that are behind paywalls.

 

[PennyThompson]

And never post links to articles that are behind paywalls.

Try it now

 

[onehitwanda]

Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, or Nvidia what they're doing with all of their profits from selling GPUs to OpenAI

I wish I could afford to be corrupt.

 

[StillStunned]

I wish I could afford to be corrupt.

I'd be happy to have something worth being corrupt about.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

For me, this short reel highlights the current issues with generative AI, for writing or even research. People need to recognize the undeniable fact that AI simply doesn't know when it is wrong.

It can't correct itself, it can't recognize falsehoods, and it makes enough mistakes so that all of those factors really matter.

My ex was AI... It all makes so much sense right now...

 

[nice90sguy]

Just sayin'... I watched that FB video. All I got from it is what everybody knows already, that lots of people are stupid and lazy, and have no idea how to use these tools, despite the myriad warnings about how you need to check their output.

 

[sparklejumpropequeenn]

I saw an article a few weeks ago saying that book-packagers are working with writers who use AI. They would send the product to a human editor/rewriter who would polish it, then publish it online. Everyone gets a cut.
Someone knocking out 40 novels a year may only be making a couple hundred thousand $ a year, but that gives them time to be with the kids and put aside 2 or 3 hours a day to do some serious writing. Their product is the literary equivalent of a MacDonalds - not something you'd want for you or your family to eat, but people who'll eat shit will buy them.

I believe one person on Lit already participates in such a process; they may have more to add.

I've done some research into exploding rockets etc. All these things AI can't do were long predated by humans attempting these same things they couldn't do. Uncanny.

Some humans can; some humans can't do some things. Some AI can; some AI can't do some things. Pointing out that AI can't do some other things is no objection to it doing what it can do.

i will never ever ever ever ever ever ever write using ai even if my writing is shitty. id rather write bad than publish using ai.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Just sayin'... I watched that FB video. All I got from it is what everybody knows already, that lots of people are stupid and lazy, and have no idea how to use these tools, despite the myriad warnings about how you need to check their output.

Yeah, but I don't think this should just be written off as "stupid and lazy users".

Tools are made to be used by humans, not by infallible super-beings. Human nature is in some ways rather predictable, and if a designer doesn't take predictable human behaviours into account then they have failed. I don't think it should've come as a great surprise that a lot of folk would start treating these tools as oracles and best friends despite warnings to the contrary.

 

[nice90sguy]

Yeah, but I don't think this should just be written off as "stupid and lazy users".

Tools are made to be used by humans, not by infallible super-beings. Human nature is in some ways rather predictable, and if a designer doesn't take predictable human behaviours into account then they have failed. I don't think it should've come as a great surprise that a lot of folk would start treating these tools as oracles and best friends despite warnings to the contrary.

"Best friends" isnt really something I could argue with, that's up to the individual -- my best friend has whiskers and a tail, and it gives me bad advice the whole time

 

[nice90sguy]

i will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever

That post is highly unlikely to be ai generated