are Americans really stupid ?

Does anyone actually care what happens in your country?

I am surprised you even know it exists.

I mean nobody follows Australian politics.

Nobody? Australians do!

Which party get's elected in your country doesn't effect the world.

no apostrophe in "get's " - :rolleyes:

Oh and who gets elected in your country DOES affect Australia. We have to decide whether to support you militarily in your desires for world domination and to attempts to spread capitalism, democracy and Christianity.

We followed you into Vietnam - a waste of lives there.


You aren't a leader in your region let alone the world.

Australia is well respected in the region. But you wouldn't know that. Your assessment is just like your claim that Australia is not in a position to judge US.


Your assessment of the United States isn't remotely in touch with reality. Not being insulting just stating facts.

See previous comment.

next!

and yes, Americans really are stupid!
 
Prediction, this is going to end up being a waste of time, and I will be insulted but no one will refute the facts I post.

. The US is a large source of illegal guns for criminals.
In Europe most illegal guns come from Belguim http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34871872


Any caring person would be dismayed at the 10,000 people killed every year by guns.

Lets look at some numbers from the CDC on gun deaths in the US...

In 2014 there were 32,000 people who died from a gunshot wound.

60% (19,200) were suicides (Suicides happen everywhere gun or no)
33% (10,560) are murders*
*80% (8,448) of all murders are directly related to gang violence.
4% (1,280) were lawful self defense
3% (960) were accidental

Then there's the over 17,000 uses a day for self defense where no one dies, (either someone is wounded or no shot is fired) not to mention the countless crimes not committed because he criminal thought the person might have a gun.

Now lets look at total murder rates.

The EU has a population of 745 million and a per capita murder rate of 2.1 people per 100K residents.

THe US has a population of 350 million. Our per capita murder rate is 3.8. not that much higher than the EU despite our gun laws.

Hounduras bans all guns has the highest gun murder rate in the world. Switzerland has the highest per capita gin ownership rate in teh world and one of the lowest murder rates.

So is it the gun or the person?

And if your loud-mouthed racist neighbour goes around looking and acting like a steroid freak while shooting off his gun, you would have a laugh at his expense. And take the piss at any opportunity.

Let's see drug abuse bans you from owning a gun, so Possession of illegal narcotics, Possession of a fire arm, discharging a fire arm in a reckless manner. Three felonies that would equal 20+ years in prison depending on the amount of drugs and where the gun was being fired (Populated vs unpopulated area)

The nearest police station where I grew up was twenty miles away. No one needed guns to protect themselves. And we never had real bad shit go down either. So why do you need a gun if your small town is peaceful? I am sure there are state troopers somewhere, just like we relied on the OPP not municipal police.

How long could you fight the steroid freak listed above? How about someone on Speed? Police in the US have an average response time of 6 minutes.

At the Orlando shooting they arrived 2 minutes after the shooting started. 50 dead. I can draw and put two aimed rounds on target in under 5 seconds.

why do you need a fire extinguisher if your small town doesn't have fires? I'm sure there is a fire department somewhere.

How would you feel about some loud mouthed redneck moving in next door to you, who had a tendency to fire his guns into the air regularly? That is what it is like living next to the USA.

Firing guns in the air is illegal. If my neighbor did that I would shoot him as he is a danger to my family. Then I would call 911 and report someone shooting guns.
 
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Prediction, this is going to end up being a waste of time, and I will be insulted but no one will refute the facts I post.

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Firing guns in the air is illegal. If my neighbor did that I would shoot him as he is a danger to my family. Then I would call 911 and report someone shooting guns.

ROFLMAO....
 
See previous comment.

next!

and yes, Americans really are stupid!

i remember gough whitlam getting the boot. i was in primary school at the time. didn't that just cause a bit of a hoo-hah!?

gough whitlam getting sacked, not me being in primary school, that is.
 
Yes OP, Americans ARE really that stupid. But it is not their fault. They have learned to accept it; to put up with it. Although some, perhaps more than some, do rant and rage against their machine. Impotence!

Cars, airplanes, telephones, computers, I pads, Smart phones, google, PC's radio television, movies, Iron ships, submarines, the assembly line, netflix, amazon, ebay,

Just a few things invented by stupid Americans.

Blame their poor education, poor food, poor politicians recently, poor standing in the world. Oh and many do live in extreme poverty on the streets. Those that do have jobs earn minimum wage, relying on tips to get by.

Poor education, yet we have more foreigners coming her for an education that any other country.

Poor food that is exported to every country in the world.

Poor Pokticians Do you know what poor means? Most of our politicians are among the wealthiest Americans. (That was a joke)

Poor Standing in the world, yet highest rate of immigration in the world.

Extreme poverty includes owning a car, and a computer.

Many who live ont he streets do so voluntarlly die to mental illness. There are programs run bu the government and private groups to help those who want it.

99.8% of people earning minimum wage are under the age of 20, working their first job and living at home with their parents. Why should someone with no skills, no work history, earn more? Besides minimum wage in the US is better than the full time salary of professionals in some countries.

then they will wish they'd voted Democrat.

I'll never vote for a woman who is a proven liar, theif, unethical, immoral, and treats servants like she's some fuedal lord.

And watch the response to this. It will be full of empty name calling, insults, cos that's what any response usually gets round here.

NOt from me. Others maybe, but I don't inslut those who disagree with me.

(I don't agree with you, but I respect your ideas, bullshit!)

I don't agree with your opinions but I can respect you as a person.
 
There is a body of evidence that shows that people in less equal societies trust less and so feel the need to project a more aggressive persona. That might fit in with the extreme poverty argument. Has anyone done research on gun ownership related to the income gap in the different states?

Yes they have. The study showed the following:

Fact blacks represent a small portion of the US population.
Fact Most crimes are committed by blacks.
Fact when adjusted for poverty level, Blacks Whites and all other races commit crimes at the same rate

The poorer the person the more likely they are to commit crimes, it has nothing to do with race, religion, or location.
 
i remember gough whitlam getting the boot. i was in primary school at the time. didn't that just cause a bit of a hoo-hah!?

gough whitlam getting sacked, not me being in primary school, that is.

Oh yeah, the Queen involved in (and even supporting) the removal of an elected Prime Minister (Whitlam).

The guy who took the Constitutional crisis to the Queen, (siding with Malcolm Fraser, the Liberal leader of the Opposition), John Kerr (who got himself a pay rise to do the job of Gov General) became a tortured drunk (in public). On his retirement as GG he manouvered a wonderful payout, avoided tax on it by putting it into a Swiss bank, even getting taxpayers on the eve of his retirement to fund a holiday in HK to sign the papers.
A total embarrassment, and as more of the story of the dismissal comes out, even more despicable.
 
Stupid means CLUELESS, whatever youre dealing with is a big puzzle to you.

Americans are cowards, lazy, and immoral. For all intents and purposes they remain children their whole lives. Society encourages it because kids are easily fucked over. And Americans are natural born log rollers, they know how to pass the buck and the blame, from birth.

mid 16th century: from French stupide or Latin stupidus, from stupere ‘be amazed or stunned.’

Americans saved Europe from being one nation under Germany twice. America has given teh world every major advance of the 20th century. Cars computers, airplanes, telephones, televisons, internet, smart phones, ebay, amazon, facebook, I could go on and on and on.

Cowards who lead teh invasion of Europe after conquering Africa. The only country who has never had an enemy army occupy it.

We're so lazy we lead the world in medical advancements, technological breakthroughs and our president is called "Leader of the Free World"

How many children do you know that have most every country in the world asking for money or military help?

America doesn't ask for help from other countries. Nor do we go running to other countries to help us out of trouble.

Go ahead and throw a few insults my way so I can add you to my ignore list.
 
Yes they have. The study showed the following:

Fact blacks represent a small portion of the US population.
Fact Most crimes are committed by blacks.
Fact when adjusted for poverty level, Blacks Whites and all other races commit crimes at the same rate

The poorer the person the more likely they are to commit crimes, it has nothing to do with race, religion, or location.

i'm calling BS on that one.
 
Cars, airplanes, telephones, computers, I pads, Smart phones, google, PC's radio television, movies, Iron ships, submarines, the assembly line, netflix, amazon, ebay,

Just a few things invented by stupid Americans.

15 general things there = 15 (less than 100 say) inventors. How many inventors were/ are immigrants? You left out (conveniently) biotechnologies, Walmart, Agent Orange, Cruise Missiles, assault rifles, Ronald fucking McDonald, Disneyland, hamburgers, televangelism



Poor education, yet we have more foreigners coming her for an education that any other country.


Correct. Wonderful salespeople of mostly shonky scams, Buy a Degree.



Poor food that is exported to every country in the world.

Correct: McDonalds, Pizza Hut , KFC. etc. etc.

Poor Pokticians Do you know what poor means? Most of our politicians are among the wealthiest Americans. (That was a joke)

Correct, and I don't see it as a joke.

Poor Standing in the world, yet highest rate of immigration in the world.

So says your national anthem...suckers who believe your dream to find out it's a fucking nightmare when they try to live there.

Extreme poverty includes owning a car, and a computer.

Oh I want to be that poor. The car would keep me poor and the computer will keep the government and corporations knowing all about me because I will have Facebook et al, to track me.



Many who live ont he streets do so voluntarlly die to mental illness. There are programs run bu the government and private groups to help those who want it. (slow down, your words are foaming at the mouth)

Voluntarily? bullshit, their homes are repossessed by the banks once they lose their jobs.

Generalising to say it's mental illness as a cause.

Oh, private groups - who charge for services they can't fucking afford?



99.8% of people earning minimum wage are under the age of 20

(you pulled that percentage out of a hat and you know it!)

, working their first job and living at home with their parents.

(because they cannot afford to get married, or buy a house. Many will continue to live at home until they die of old age, if they live that long)

Why should someone with no skills, no work history, earn more?

If they have no skills, they will have no job and no work history. Your logic failed you there. But they will be exploited as cheap labour in menial jobs.



Besides minimum wage in the US is better than the full time salary of professionals in some countries.

Possible true. As a foreigner, bet I live better in China (I do not want for anything) than I would on minimum wage in US.


I'll never vote for a woman who is a proven liar, theif, unethical, immoral, and treats servants like she's some fuedal lord.

I doubt you'd vote for a woman anyway. Are you a woman? If so then you are not a "credit to your gender" (to quote that Linda Ronstadt song).



NOt from me. Others maybe, but I don't inslut those who disagree with me.


I don't agree with your opinions but I can respect you as a person.

ditto.
 
i'm calling BS on that one.

Not exactly.
While I disagreed with a few other comments that she made (I found them to be a tad racist), those that you quoted weren't entirely wrong.

Regardless of country, crime rates tend to be higher in minority groups of lower socioeconomic status.
That doesn't have as much to do with the poverty level, as with the degree to which they are stigmatized and marginalized by the mainstream society.

Imagine being a young man and growing up surrounded by all these negative messages from massmedia or even your own people: that you're no good or inferior. You're quite likely to either end up hating them or internalizing the oppressive messages (which in men leads to the same anger and acting out).
 
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Not exactly.
While I disagreed with a few other comments that she made (I found them to be a tad racist), those that you quoted weren't entirely wrong.

Regardless of country, crime rates tend to be higher in minority groups of lower socioeconomic status.
That doesn't have as much to do with the poverty level, as with the degree to which they are stigmatized and marginalized by the mainstream society.

Imagine being a young man and growing up surrounded by all these negative messages from massmedia or even your own people: that you're no good or inferior. You're quite likely to either end up hating them or internalizing the oppressive messages (which in men leads to the same anger and acting out).

Racist? Black father, Cuban mother, Vietnamese spouse. Who exactly am I racist against?
 
Racist? Black father, Cuban mother, Vietnamese spouse. Who exactly am I racist against?

1. I was having in mind a couple of comments that you made about muslims, in the other forum. Most of them were so interesting to read, but for a couple of comments which I found bigotted, tbh.
- On the other hand, what I read so far here showed no bigotry.

2.I also tend to do it as a defensive -already knee-jerk- reflex.
Having been labelled sooo many times as "racist" in the GB over all sorts of nonsense or for the mere fact that I agreed with the -nonbigotted- statements of R-wingers,
- I tend to preface my arguments with such nonsense whenever I agree with the comments of a more conservative poster.

Sorry about that, I shouldn't have made that stupid comment & I'm retracting it.
 
Americans saved Europe from being one nation under Germany twice.

They were late to both of those wars because it was in their business interests to trade with Germany until it wasn't.


America has given teh world every major advance of the 20th century. Cars computers, airplanes, telephones, televisons, internet, smart phones, ebay, amazon, facebook, I could go on and on and on.

Yes I'm afraid you could! :rolleyes:


Cowards who lead teh invasion of Europe after conquering Africa.

(??)

The only country who has never had an enemy army occupy it.

The Native Americans might disagree with you on that.


We're so lazy we lead the world in medical advancements, technological breakthroughs and our president is called "Leader of the Free World"

No it doesn't "lead the world". Besides, Australia punches above its weight on many (recent) medical and tech breakthroughs but you would not know that.


How many children do you know that have most every country in the world asking for money or military help?

????


America doesn't ask for help from other countries. Nor do we go running to other countries to help us out of trouble.

US asks for help from Australia (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan), US bases in Australia assist US military surveillance (to our shame and possible future detriment).


Go ahead and throw a few insults my way so I can add you to my ignore list.

No insults, only attacks on your argument.
 
Prediction, this is going to end up being a waste of time, and I will be insulted but no one will refute the facts I post.


In Europe most illegal guns come from Belguim http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34871872




Lets look at some numbers from the CDC on gun deaths in the US...

In 2014 there were 32,000 people who died from a gunshot wound.

60% (19,200) were suicides (Suicides happen everywhere gun or no)
33% (10,560) are murders*
*80% (8,448) of all murders are directly related to gang violence.
4% (1,280) were lawful self defense
3% (960) were accidental

Then there's the over 17,000 uses a day for self defense where no one dies, (either someone is wounded or no shot is fired) not to mention the countless crimes not committed because he criminal thought the person might have a gun.

Now lets look at total murder rates.

The EU has a population of 745 million and a per capita murder rate of 2.1 people per 100K residents.

THe US has a population of 350 million. Our per capita murder rate is 3.8. not that much higher than the EU despite our gun laws.

Hounduras bans all guns has the highest gun murder rate in the world. Switzerland has the highest per capita gin ownership rate in teh world and one of the lowest murder rates.

So is it the gun or the person?



Let's see drug abuse bans you from owning a gun, so Possession of illegal narcotics, Possession of a fire arm, discharging a fire arm in a reckless manner. Three felonies that would equal 20+ years in prison depending on the amount of drugs and where the gun was being fired (Populated vs unpopulated area)



How long could you fight the steroid freak listed above? How about someone on Speed? Police in the US have an average response time of 6 minutes.

At the Orlando shooting they arrived 2 minutes after the shooting started. 50 dead. I can draw and put two aimed rounds on target in under 5 seconds.

why do you need a fire extinguisher if your small town doesn't have fires? I'm sure there is a fire department somewhere.



Firing guns in the air is illegal. If my neighbor did that I would shoot him as he is a danger to my family. Then I would call 911 and report someone shooting guns.

Based on my years of experience with cops, mostly what they do is stand around when things escalate to the 911 level.
 
Americans saved Europe from being one nation under Germany twice. America has given teh world every major advance of the 20th century. Cars computers, airplanes, telephones, televisons, internet, smart phones, ebay, amazon, facebook, I could go on and on and on.

Cowards who lead teh invasion of Europe after conquering Africa. The only country who has never had an enemy army occupy it.

We're so lazy we lead the world in medical advancements, technological breakthroughs and our president is called "Leader of the Free World"

How many children do you know that have most every country in the world asking for money or military help?

America doesn't ask for help from other countries. Nor do we go running to other countries to help us out of trouble.

Go ahead and throw a few insults my way so I can add you to my ignore list.

Britain burned the White House to the ground about 1814 or so. Britain used Boston as a port in that war.

I can dispute every point you make but don't wanna insult you. I am Gladiator not a thug.
 
Cars, airplanes, telephones, computers, I pads, Smart phones, google, PC's radio television, movies, Iron ships, submarines, the assembly line, netflix, amazon, ebay,

Just a few things invented by stupid Americans.

15 general things there = 15 (less than 100 say) inventors. How many inventors were/ are immigrants?


You left out (conveniently) biotechnologies, Walmart, Agent Orange, Cruise Missiles, assault rifles, Ronald McDonald, Disneyland, hamburgers, televangelism

As I said I only listed a few items implying there were many many more. People immigrate here and become citizens making them Americans. The Items I listed had a positive change throughout the world.



Poor education, yet we have more foreigners coming her for an education that any other country.

Correct. Wonderful salespeople of mostly shonky scams, Buy a Degree.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Princeton, Wessley, and the rest of the Ivy league yeah those schools sell degrees and are scams :rolleyes:



Poor food that is exported to every country in the world.

Correct: McDonalds, Pizza Hut , KFC. etc. etc.

I was referring to wheat, shourgum, corn, all the food we grow and export cheaper than it can be grown in other countries


Poor Politicians Do you know what poor means? Most of our politicians are among the wealthiest Americans. (That was a joke)

Correct, and I don't see it as a joke.

I don't wee politicians getting wealthy as a joke but thata's not limited to the US it happens in every country in the world. The joke was the play on words.


Poor Standing in the world, yet highest rate of immigration in the world.

So says your national anthem...suckers who believe your dream to find out it's a fucking nightmare when they try to live there.

Name one other country where a poor black man from a single parent home can attend one of the Best colleges in the world and end up and "Leader of the Free World" The American dream is alive and well for those who work for it.


Extreme poverty includes owning a car, and a computer.

Oh I want to be that poor. The car would keep me poor and the computer will keep the government and corporations knowing all about me because I will have Facebook et al, to track me.

Paranoid much?

Many who live on the streets do so voluntarily due to mental illness. There are programs run bu the government and private groups to help those who want it. (slow down, your words are foaming at the mouth)

Voluntarily? bullshit, their homes are repossessed by the banks once they lose their jobs.

Generalising to say it's mental illness as a cause.

Oh, private groups - who charge for services they can't fucking afford?


The mortgage crisis was caused by Democrats under Bill Clinton passing laws forcing banks to lend money to people who had been unable to get loans die to low incomes. These people then got mortgages and aftre a few years were unable to continue paying them.

If you can't afford a house don't buy one. How hard is that? Every year I see people getiing tax refunds and buying big screen Tv's and game systems ans jewlery, six months later all that stuff in on Pawn shop shelves because people don't know how to manage their money.

The mentally ill are the majority of homeless people. everybody else goes to places like the Christian Help Center where I volunteer. They provide assistance in writing a resume, interview prep, clothing to wear for an interview, food for the family, and they work with numerous companies to send applicants for job vacancies. Their fee $0

The Mustard Seed provides furniture and Clothes to people in need at no charge. Tell me again about the unaffordable fees.

There's also Habitat for Humanity. Providing hoes to families at little to no cost. The resources are out there for people who want help.



99.8% of people earning minimum wage are under the age of 20

(you pulled that percentage out of a hat and you know it!)

Nope it comes from the Dept of Labor

, working their first job and living at home with their parents.

(because they cannot afford to get married, or buy a house. Many will continue to live at home until they die of old age, if they live that long)

Because so many 14-22 year olds are mature enough to get married, or buy a house. Most move out during or after college, then return home later to save money to get married or buy a house. It's called being financially responsible.


Why should someone with no skills, no work history, earn more?

If they have no skills, they will have no job and no work history. Your logic failed you there. But they will be exploited as cheap labour in menial jobs.

Ever hear of an entry level job like McDonalds? Where they teach you work habits, like respnsibility, following a schedule, dealing with supervisors, etc...


Besides minimum wage in the US is better than the full time salary of professionals in some countries.

Possible true. As a foreigner, bet I live better in China (I do not want for anything) than I would on minimum wage in US.

When I started working at 16 I made $3.15 an hour, working at McDonalds. Now I run my own business and have 5 employees. Now I make a lot more. But I had to start somewhere.

No one runs a marathon without first rinning a mile. Would you pay a 16 year old the same salary as David Beckham to play soccer?



I'll never vote for a woman who is a proven liar, theif, unethical, immoral, and treats servants like she's some fuedal lord.


I doubt you'd vote for a woman anyway. Are you a woman? If so then you are not a "credit to your gender" (to quote that Linda Ronstadt song).

So you know nothing about me. Not even my gender, and yet you state you know I wouldn't vote for a woman and that I'm not a credit to my gender.

you complain about others insulting people then you insult someone. Just so you know, I would vote for any woman who I felt was qualified for the job. A woman who was fired from the Watergate investigation for ethical violations, a woman who attacks a 12 year old rape victim on the witness stand to get her rapist off when she knows he's guilty, a woman who stole over 200,000 dollars worth of furniture and art when she moved out of the White House, a woman who miss placed 6 billion dollars as secretary of state, a woman who let Americans be slaughtered while they begged for help, a woman who is under investigation for possibly mishandling classified data is not someone I would considered qualified to be anything but an inmate in a federal prison.

My ideal canidate is Govenor Jan Brewer of Arizona. I have been begging her to run on her Facebook page since 2010.

I wold also vote for Condoleeza Rice.

So now that you've proven to be a hypocrit and used insults, I'm done talking to you.

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1. I was having in mind a couple of comments that you made about muslims, in the other forum. Most of them were so interesting to read, but for a couple of comments which I found bigotted, tbh.
- On the other hand, what I read so far here showed no bigotry.

2.I also tend to do it as a defensive -already knee-jerk- reflex.
Having been labelled sooo many times as "racist" in the GB over all sorts of nonsense or for the mere fact that I agreed with the -nonbigotted- statements of R-wingers,
- I tend to preface my arguments with such nonsense whenever I agree with the comments of a more conservative poster.

Sorry about that, I shouldn't have made that stupid comment & I'm retracting it.

Apology accepted, Thank you.

To clear up some things, Muslim is not a race, it is a religion. There are black, white, brown, red and yellow Muslims.

I don't care about your race, religion, political party, or anything else, as long as you obey the law, treat others with respect, help your fellow man, I have no problem with you, and might even think of you as a friend.

But when one identifiable group continuously kills people for worshiping a different God, or because of their sexual preference, or because a woman was raped, or she went to school, or because someone wrote a book, or painted a picture, or their religious leader said it was okay, or anyone that thinks strapping a bomb to a six year old to blow up a school bus, is okay, or plotting the genocide of an entire group of people that are of a different faith,

I might feel a bit antagonistic, and distrustful towards them as a group.
 
Britain burned the White House to the ground about 1814 or so. Britain used Boston as a port in that war.

I can dispute every point you make but don't wanna insult you. I am Gladiator not a thug.

British troops were on American soil during the war of 1812. They were constantly on the move. They did not occupy any specific place.
Nor did they burn the White house to the ground. There was significant damage to the interior but the exterior walls remained standing.

To this day there are scorch marks visible on the exterior walls that were intentionally left for their historical significance.

Ant they were in DC for three days before leaving, not quite an army of occupation.

US Military shops have offload cargo in Odessa, does that mean that we occupied Odessa?

How would refuting statement be an insult? that makes no sense.

A gladiator is a thug that was turned into a slave, lives in a cage and lives and dies at the whim of others.

I am a free citizen, beholden to no one.
 
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Song Writer Randy Newman said it best in his song "Political Science"


Political Science

By Randy Newman

No one likes us
I don't know why
We may not be perfect
But heaven knows we try
But all around
Even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one
And see what happens

We give them money
But are they grateful
No, they're spiteful
And they're hateful
They don't respect us
So let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one
And pulverize them

Asia's crowded
And Europe's too old
Africa's far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't want to hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an all American amusement park there
They've got surfing, too

Boom goes London
And boom Paris
More room for you
And more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it'll be
We'll set everybody free
You'll have Japanese kimonos, baby
There'll be Italian shoes for me
They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

Songwriters: RANDY NEWMAN

© Warner/Chappell Music, Inc.

For non-commercial use only.
 
British troops were on American soil during the war of 1812. They were constantly on the move. They did not occupy any specific place.
Nor did they burn the White house to the ground. There was significant damage to the interior but the exterior walls remained standing.

To this day there are scorch marks visible on the exterior walls that were intentionally left for their historical significance.

Ant they were in DC for three days before leaving, not quite an army of occupation.

US Military shops have offload cargo in Odessa, does that mean that we occupied Odessa?

How would refuting statement be an insult? that makes no sense.

A gladiator is a thug that was turned into a slave, lives in a cage and lives and dies at the whim of others.

I am a free citizen, beholden to no one.

WAR OF 1812 IN WASHINGTON
http://www.history.com/news/the-british-burn-washington-d-c-200-years-ago
 

From your source:

The British only occupied Washington for 24 hours, however, and soon after suffered major defeats of their own that helped bring the War of 1812 to a close.

Not quite what one would call an Army of occupation.

about 150 men marched down Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House, then better known as the President’s House. Upon consuming food and wine that had been set out for 40 people, they stole some souvenirs, like Madison’s medicine chest, and started a new inferno that left the structure a charred mess.

Not quite burned to the ground. As I said

Ldy_Sea said:
There was significant damage to the interior but the exterior walls remained standing.
 
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