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[Britva415]

Are these significantly different than the false AI detection instances happening with strictly English written submissions?

What's different may be the moderator's ability to react to a "false negative, please review" request.

 

[millamomud]

I don't know swriter and this is not about them specifically. This is about your assumption.

Sadly, history does not guarantee the future.

There are many things that can lead to a decline in productivity/creativity as time goes by. Also, the more stories you've already written, the easier it is to train an AI to emulate your own writing. Then, you add in any financial inducements from continued/increased output…

I can guarantee this is not the case.

 

[IWroteThis]

I can guarantee this is not the case.

Actually, as I was speaking in generalities rather than about a specific case, no you can't.

 

[Stanfield2025]

I haven't experienced this yet (thank God), but the possibility of doing so scares the living shit out of me. No idea what I'd do if this bullshit cropped up for my story.

 

[millamomud]

Actually, as I was speaking in generalities rather than about a specific case, no you can't.

Strange, that so many of the german toplist authors are experiencing the same thing at the same time, isn't it? All of them suddenly in need of AI to inspire themselves?

 

[M9909]

There has been a LOT of discussion on this subject, and in the end, it is all speculation.

Some attribute false AI detection to a writer's style, a lower usage of dialogue, or other writing traits that too closely emulate what AI-generated text would typically look like. Some blame the use of tools such as Grammarly to correct spelling and/or grammar. Using AI to translate from a foreign language is a likely trigger in some instances.

I wish that I could tell you exactly why some stories by an author get approved while others don't. There is no logic behind it that I have seen defined.

How can it be speculation? There must be an open communication from the admins on that topic. I got an email subscribed by two guys. So, they must be responsible. Had they said something?
If not, then something is really wrong with Literotica. The writing becomes less fun, less joy. If one is depended on .. what? It is not even clear, on what I depend to get my story published.
Since that topic is relevant for some time now and the users still don't know, what is going on, then Literoctica is not the right platform anymore.
I have put HOURS in a good, readable story, and it got rejected and nobody knows why?
Sounds like the old USSR. lol
Nobody knew, how to behave correctly...
So long, and thankx for all the fish!

 

[M9909]

Grammarly should by the way not be an issue in regards for German false positives, as grammarly specifically is not very big here.

I never heard of it before.

 

[Lolita30]

Here here!!!! I've been writing since childhood, and even my poorly worded stories are rejected as AI, misspellings, fragments, and all!

 

[IWroteThis]

Strange, that so many of the german toplist authors are experiencing the same thing at the same time, isn't it? All of them suddenly in need of AI to inspire themselves?

No, that's not at all what I said.

As I said very clearly, I was speaking to the base assumption, not any specific instance.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I never heard of it before.

It’s primarily a tool for US business writing. Great for incentivizing human assets to align with corporate strategies by actualizing value-driven principles within an overarching customer-centric framework of excellence.

 

[Luci_nerdy_kink]

It’s primarily a tool for US business writing. Great for incentivizing human assets to align with corporate strategies by actualizing value-driven principles within an overarching customer-centric framework of excellence.

All I know is Emily is a really nice person, so if we’re gonna say fuck all of Literotica… that’s cool with me, but…

A few of these girls are actually really cool, so I’m sorry about any inconveniences

 

[M9909]

Strange, that so many of the german toplist authors are experiencing the same thing at the same time, isn't it? All of them suddenly in need of AI to inspire themselves?

I never needed any inspiration from an AI.

It’s primarily a tool for US business writing. Great for incentivizing human assets to align with corporate strategies by actualizing value-driven principles within an overarching customer-centric framework of excellence.

Sounds nice.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I never needed any inspiration from an AI.

I have seen the organic development of English stories first hand which have then got flagged as AI, so I know that the AI checker is far from foolproof. There seems to be a terrible problem with Germanic texts. Anecdotally most German authors are having problems.

 

[Luci_nerdy_kink]

I have seen the organic development of English stories first hand which have then got flagged as AI, so I know that the AI checker is far from foolproof. There seems to be a terrible problem with Germanic texts. Anecdotally most German authors are having problems.

It’s more like AI is so close to real… eventually real people will get flagged more than AI will…

If that’s not even happening already.

Because at a certain point it becomes about adaptation speed.

That’s why it’s an impossible problem so far…

Because we don’t know how to adapt the AI to fix that part.

We have to be careful about limiting it… because then it just becomes dumber than us.

But because it can fool us better than we can… it just gets confusing. It’s probably not even that hard to solve…

It’s just gonna take somebody to look at it a little different.

When all of this is happening at scale through training… it’s just not easy for somebody like me to understand what to change to get the outcome we need.

Because I have to think about this huge puzzle all at once and it’s too crazy.

I have to take quantum mechanics into consideration and stuff all the time… it’s not normal behavior and normal thought… so it’s just… a weird problem to solve in the end

 

[EmilyMiller]

It’s more like AI is so close to real… eventually real people will get flagged more than AI will…

I dispute that LLMs will achieve this. I’ve seen zero progression toward this goal in the last couple of years. LLMs still write clunky, cliche-laden, monotone slop, with a total lack of characterization or emotion beyond the stereotypically wrote.

 

[alohadave]

LLMs still write clunky, cliche-laden, monotone slop, with a total lack of characterization or emotion beyond the stereotypically wrote.

Sounds about right for basic writing.

 

[Luci_nerdy_kink]

I dispute that LLMs will achieve this. I’ve seen zero progression toward this goal in the last couple of years. LLMs still write clunky, cliche-laden, monotone slop, with a total lack of characterization or emotion beyond the stereotypically wrote.

I would encourage you to check the bias on that…

I am seeing data that supports your dispute… to be very clear here…

But again… that’s why I started talking about quantum mechanics and having to think about many different layers of it at once.

You can see evidence of my claim in the very fact that AI went from totally useless chatbots less than 5 years ago…

To helping people learn and research brand new technologies…

The studies you’re looking at, aren’t showing the full scope of variables, it’s not that they’re wrong… it’s that the results are created in a controlled environment that doesn’t reflect the chaotic reality of the universe.

It’s not respecting the math behind intelligence, or my understanding of the math.

A lot of people are still waiting for AGI and it has already been here, as far as I’m concerned…

But people set a certain expectation and then argue against it as though that is reality.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Sounds about right for basic writing.

I suppose it’s true that LLMs can successfully ape first centile human writing. Maybe like second or third grade. But they aren’t getting better in this respect. There are limitations on what they can do. Same as they can’t come even close to text written by an actual expert in a field. This is going to become more and more clear.

 

[Luci_nerdy_kink]

I suppose it’s true that LLMs can successfully ape first centile human writing. Maybe like second or third grade. But they aren’t getting better in this respect. There are limitations on what they can do. Same as they can’t come even close to text written by an actual expert in a field. This is going to become more and more clear.

I agree with seeing the limitations, which are very apparent…

But there is also a clear data that shows AI is out performing humans in many ways that make people uncomfortable.

And there’s also clear data that shows people misinterpret data to protect their feelings.

I’m obv not trying to assume anything I’m just trying to be very clear about what I’m seeing.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I would encourage you to check the bias on that…

I am seeing data that supports your dispute… to be very clear here…

But again… that’s why I started talking about quantum mechanics and having to think about many different layers of it at once.

You can see evidence of my claim in the very fact that AI went from totally useless chatbots less than 5 years ago…

To helping people learn and research brand new technologies…

The studies you’re looking at, aren’t showing the full scope of variables, it’s not that they’re wrong… it’s that the results are created in a controlled environment that doesn’t reflect the chaotic reality of the universe.

It’s not respecting the math behind intelligence, or my understanding of the math.

A lot of people are still waiting for AGI and it has already been here, as far as I’m concerned…

But people set a certain expectation and then argue against it as though that is reality.

I’m sorry, I didn’t understand any of that.

Previous rate of progress implies nothing about future rates. Anyone who has tried to master an area will tell you that early progress can be deeply encouraging. But then if becomes harder and harder to improve.

LLMs left their exponential phase behind a while back, but their marketing hype still claims its continuing. It’s not.

 

[Luci_nerdy_kink]

I’m sorry, I didn’t understand any of that.

Previous rate of progress imply nothing about future rates. Anyone who has tried to master an area will tell you that early progress can be deeply encouraging. But then if becomea harder and harder to improve.

LLMs left their exponential phase behind a while back, but their marketing hype still claims its continuing. It’s not.

Of course we can’t trust any rates to be fully accurate.

That’s why we can’t accept your conclusion either…

You are arguing something that has been proven wrong in the past already.

Because five years ago, everybody made that exact same claim that AI could never match human capabilities…

Which has been proven wrong many times now… a few times by me.

You just aren’t aware of the evidence.

 

[EmilyMiller]

But there is also a clear data that shows AI is out performing humans in many ways that make people uncomfortable.

A list would be helpful… claims like that need to be substantiated. My take is that the AI companies are desperately trying to cash out before the area implodes.

I’m basing this on having seen claimed AI miracles evaporate when coming into contact with reality in my own organization. Three separate times. And no I’m unable to say more, for obvious reasons.

Let’s just say I am highly skeptical of many of the claims made for the technology.

 

[millamomud]

I have seen the organic development of English stories first hand which have then got flagged as AI, so I know that the AI checker is far from foolproof. There seems to be a terrible problem with Germanic texts. Anecdotally most German authors are having problems.

One Example, @Ihr_joe

Has been publishing for 5 years, short stories, long series, decent amount of hots, came recently out complaining about his first rejection
Then @Doc_M1, publishing for 4 years, has 5 stories in the bdsm toplist, published 79 works, got hit with his recent series submission.

The german BDSM section published around five stories a day a year ago. Now it's been two in the last 10 days.

 

[EmilyMiller]

You just aren’t aware of the evidence.

So share it…

 

[Luci_nerdy_kink]

A list would be helpful… claims like that need to be substantiated. My take is that the AI companies are desperately trying to cash out before the area implodes.

I’m basing this on having seen claimed AI miracles evaporate when coming into contact with reality in my own organization. Three separate times. And no I’m unable to say more, for obvious reasons.

Let’s just say I am highly skeptical of many of the claims made for the technology.

A list would certainly be helpful.

I dispute the claim that I have to substantiate any of that. (You can demand I spend my time however you wish, but I am more powerful)

You can operate off of your opinions all you want, but knowledge is power and I’ve already done the science at my own expense and took the risk…

Giving you my IP is a luxury, and the only reason I need peer reviews is to steal all of your guys’s work that you’re desperately using for validation.

Anything else I can help you with today, Emily?

You already admitted that you don’t understand what I’m talking about… even though it’s very simple stuff in the AI world.

I’ll try to help explain whatever I can but… it’s not working.

I could probably write an AI to explain it better though lol.

Start here:

/1 = 1/

I discovered that equation by the way.

And I mentally solved the game of chess before I was a teenager too.

Have you mentally solved the game of chess yet?

Rest assured, I’m not just being condescending… there’s a reason why people play chess.

I can teach all of you. It’s really simple.

Oh… evidence… AI learned how to play this faster than me… and I’m an exceptional guitarist… there’s ONE fun data point…