Delving the Psyche of Sadists

[AngelicAssassin]

Re: Re: Re: when you got it bad

*sits back and takes AA advice and chills out.*

So you're the one responsible for the frickin' cold snap. Feel free to unchill any damn time now, or i'm coming to count reps while you exercise ... and you'll get tired of hearing "1, 1, 1, 1" over and over again.

 

[RJMasters]

Re: Re: Re: Re: when you got it bad

So you're the one responsible for the frickin' cold snap. Feel free to unchill any damn time now, or i'm coming to count reps while you exercise ... and you'll get tired of hearing "1, 1, 1, 1" over and over again.

*peers over the edge of the news desk...Stands up and hids bloody knuckles behind back and kicks the quivering foot of the now attitude adjusted weatherman, back out of sight behind the desk.

This just in!....

There seems to be flurry of activity coming from southern California which could lead to a warming trend across the country. It seems the center of this new heat source has been located and found to be emenating from a man working out in his own living room.

The El'RJ effect is expected to hit the jet stream and carry with it a warming trend across the country over the next few days.

When asked if he worried about ruining anyone's white christmas...he replied...and I quote..."fuck-em" and then he went back to lifting weights.

So there you have it folks. We hope you have a safe and warm holiday season.

 

[Guest]

BUMP...Because someone should...

 

[shy slave]

I have pondered over this thread for hours and tried to discuss elements with Him

Even printed some of it off to ask Him His opinion.

His opinion to all thoughts, questions and everything else associated with the psyche of sadists:

"Its the way I am."

Which makes me ask more question about


WHY is He the way He is.

I think He will put me up for sale if I keep asking lol

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: I wonder~why~why~why~why~why...

The sadist that claims "i'm just wired this way," needs a cattleprod shoved up his ass sideways to find out what wired really means. He's copping excuses for a choice he's too ashamed to admit. If you want a dirty little secret, so be it.

In between the time this thread did an Atlantis act, and now, I have done a bit of serious thinking (Like thats any surprise).

I would say, in relation to the above, that yes "I'm wired this way". But also that I make a concious CHOICE.
And that choice, is what lets me moderate the extent of my indulgence of the natural prediliction.

 

[RJMasters]

Woah old school. Recess has been fun.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Woah old school. Recess has been fun.

Fuck recess ... bring in the clowns.

 

[RJMasters]

Fuck recess ... bring in the clowns.

ok BBA here you go

 

[AngelicAssassin]

ok BBA here you go

Now that's more like it.

He's a puss though.

No blood on the teeth for lack of hunting, or too worried the dentist will kick his ass for not brushing.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

It's actually nothing but a pendulum stroke varying in intenisty at your discretion.

Remove your rings, and check your nail lengths.

If you golf, the forehand should come naturally. You're looking to accelerate the club speed right before the point of impact, so you hold the wrist cocked back slightly. Timing counts here. Snap the wrist too soon, and you'll jam a finger and your target. Snap it too late, and you might as well use a blunt instrument. Get it right and your fingers, primarily the two joints leading away from the palm will hit flat accelerating into the target. Continue the flick just right and you'll get just a touch of nail snick across the field of flame you just laid down.

Backhand is slightly different. As your forehand stroke reaches the top of your follow through, you purposely twist your wrist so your thumb moves away and your pinkie towards you. As the downstroke of the backhand begins, you need to force your ulna and radius to remain twisted as long as you possibly can hold it. Just like the forehand, you're looking for max club head speed at the point of impact. This is where you get the most feedback on what your target feels because of the thiness of the skin on the backs of your fingers. Just before impact you snap the pinkie side of your hand forward to lay the backs of your fingers flat on the target. Too soon, and you'll stove your fingers and stab the target again. Too late and you might club the target with the opposite side of your palm, or wrist instead. Again, done right you can get the trailing *snick* of nails across that field of fire you just laid for a little added juice to the target.

Make sense?

Depending on intent, the pain threshold of the target and you, you can lay a wonderfully rosey glow up down a thigh, across buttocks, soles of the feet, etc. Or ... you can concentrate in one area and see whom collapses first.

Damn ... read this and my hand started to itch.

Let's see ... if the right hand itches, you will come into money. If the left, you will spend it.

Well, hell. i'm a Libra, guess we better just maintain the fucking balance.

 

[RJMasters]

suxs waiting for the other signwave to catch up sometimes.

Sometimes I would just prefer an online bloodbank and call it a day.

 

[nusubgurl]

Originally Posted by AngelicAssassin
It's actually nothing but a pendulum stroke varying in intenisty at your discretion.

Remove your rings, and check your nail lengths.

If you golf, the forehand should come naturally. You're looking to accelerate the club speed right before the point of impact, so you hold the wrist cocked back slightly. Timing counts here. Snap the wrist too soon, and you'll jam a finger and your target. Snap it too late, and you might as well use a blunt instrument. Get it right and your fingers, primarily the two joints leading away from the palm will hit flat accelerating into the target. Continue the flick just right and you'll get just a touch of nail snick across the field of flame you just laid down.

Backhand is slightly different. As your forehand stroke reaches the top of your follow through, you purposely twist your wrist so your thumb moves away and your pinkie towards you. As the downstroke of the backhand begins, you need to force your ulna and radius to remain twisted as long as you possibly can hold it. Just like the forehand, you're looking for max club head speed at the point of impact. This is where you get the most feedback on what your target feels because of the thiness of the skin on the backs of your fingers. Just before impact you snap the pinkie side of your hand forward to lay the backs of your fingers flat on the target. Too soon, and you'll stove your fingers and stab the target again. Too late and you might club the target with the opposite side of your palm, or wrist instead. Again, done right you can get the trailing *snick* of nails across that field of fire you just laid for a little added juice to the target.

Make sense?

Depending on intent, the pain threshold of the target and you, you can lay a wonderfully rosey glow up down a thigh, across buttocks, soles of the feet, etc. Or ... you can concentrate in one area and see whom collapses first.

Jeezus AA...have mercy..i can't go back to work with wet undies...

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Jeezus AA...have mercy..i can't go back to work with wet undies...

*Must bite tongue to keep from answering*

 

[FurryFury]

I have wanted to understand more about the psyche of a Sadist. Admittedly I have some preconceived notions, and I think I have a good handle on the couple of reasons I like to inflict pain upon another person, however I wanted a chance to open up the discussion to learn more from other people's perspectives. So the playground is open...

Why, or what is it within me that finds pleasure in inflicting pain upon another?

In some ways I have a clear and narrow reason why. I use pain as a means to induce deeper love, loyalty and fear in order to draw the person of my desire closer to me.

Love - Knowing there is a deep seeded need in the one I am administering the pain unto(meeting the masochistic needs of my S/O). I want to be the one to meet that need, to be that keeper and controller of that drug. This translates to control.

Loyalty - The word is a bit misleading on the surface as to why I choose it to convey my thoughts. With in the context I have created, to me the inflicting of pain is a means in which I can test and probe the extreme love of my S/O to me. Simply put..."What will you endure for me today, my love?" This translates to devotion.

Fear - Again, on the surface a tad misleading unless you understand how I relate it to respect. There are many facets of what respect can be derived from, specifically applied here, it means the recognition of real force or pain. When one has felt the sting/cut from my hand/mind, as painful as it may be, they know it is but only a taste of what could be brought to bear. As the "taste" is administered in a controlled loving way, leaving plenty of room for the imagination to try to grasp what "uncontrolled" would be. This translates to respectful obedience.

So to summarize the above:


I used pain as a means to induce deeper love, loyalty and fear in order to draw the person of my desire closer to me. What I get out of it is control, devotion and respectful obedience, which is "why" I find and take pleasure in inflicting pain upon another

I have spoken specifically about the sadist within me. I would like to share my notions about the psyche of the Sadist in a more general way.

To understand the psyche of a sadist, I feel is important to speak about the realness of pain. Some would laugh at such a simple and obvious statement, but it is easy than one might think to over look the value of grasping what I mean by the "realness" of pain.

Most people spend their whole lives developing defensives and ways to numb them selves from knowing and experiencing pain. Sadist spend their whole lives developing ways to tear down these defenses and remove the numbness in order to make others face the realness of pain.

In a sense it sounds almost like a cosmic battle, and in some ways I guess that is true as there is something which burns within the heart of the sadist for other to experience the realness of pain as terrifying as that may be.

The realness of pain simple means there is real power or force. The sadist knows this, feels it, and seeks to use it as a means of control and pleasure. They are intimately aware of the advantage this gives them over two types of people; Those that do everything to shy away from pain in order to not feel it, and those who have a need or craving for it.

Last but not least is more of a theory, but I sense there is truth in it...I feel at the root of why a person take pleasure in giving another pain, is the sadist's way of sharing the deep struggle within themselves. When doing this with a S/O, they are opening themselves and showing the other "this is who I am" and yes it is that scary. Imagine the great worth when the S/O shows not only acceptance, but takes pleasure from who and what they are. It defies words to explain the exchange between them, and the rest of us watch in horror not understanding the raw beauty which we behold.

Thank you for taking the time to read and consider what I have shared. Some may not want to delve this deep and it is enough for them to say "I just like it and that's good enough for me". But I hope that my thoughts have stimulated some of you out there, with the hopes you will share.

Interesting thoughts RJ. I don't know that much about the topic but I enjoyed reading through this anyway.

I finally got the chance to read your story and poems today. I like your writing. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and words.

Fury

 

[RJMasters]

*Must bite tongue to keep from answering*

lol, sends AA 5 Chinese finger puzzles.

 

[RJMasters]

Interesting thoughts RJ. I don't know that much about the topic but I enjoyed reading through this anyway.

I finally got the chance to read your story and poems today. I like your writing. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and words.

Fury

Yes this was written long ago, and the journey through this thread was something very important to me. Discovering and exploring parts inside me and identifying with what others had shared.

I think "some" of those things I originally wrote might still be true, however I think I have come to accept some of my desires just because I like them. It makes me feel good. Sometimes I wish I had not awakened the inner battle that I now sometimes face, but I have not had any need of cleansing nor any desire of that aspect of pain for myself since I have accepted and face it.

There are times though that I feel like the loneliness person in the entire world especially when my desire runs across the razor's edge and I know, no relief is coming. Its times like that when I run deep and run silent.

As to my writings and poetry: Thank you for the compliments, I have a special release coming soon, I will post in the cafe when I submit it.

 

[FurryFury]

Yes this was written long ago, and the journey through this thread was something very important to me. Discovering and exploring parts inside me and identifying with what others had shared.

I think "some" of those things I originally wrote might still be true, however I think I have come to accept some of my desires just because I like them. It makes me feel good. Sometimes I wish I had not awakened the inner battle that I now sometimes face, but I have not had any need of cleansing nor any desire of that aspect of pain for myself since I have accepted and face it.

There are times though that I feel like the loneliness person in the entire world especially when my desire runs across the razor's edge and I know, no relief is coming. Its times like that when I run deep and run silent.

As to my writings and poetry: Thank you for the compliments, I have a special release coming soon, I will post in the cafe when I submit it.

Journey's are important RJ and it sounds like you have gained a lot with yours.

Loneliness plagues us all in deep biting ways I think. I know that is true for me and I have absolutely no reason to feel lonely, I guess it's just my nature perhaps even human nature. I can be in a room full of people. Wonderful warm people who love me and I love them and still feel lonely. Maybe it's me and strange I don't really know but I do know that feeling.

I'm not entirely sure what battle and what relief you speak of. I do think it is good to accept that you like something just because you do.

*hugs*

I look forward to reading your newest! I'm not typing well, so I think I'd better head to bed.

Night,

Fury

 

[Blushing Bottom]

Hmmmmmm...

That would depend on which type of EXERCISE reps you were counting.

...and as already stated elsewhee a mental mind-fuck can be nice.

So you're the one responsible for the frickin' cold snap. Feel free to unchill any damn time now, or i'm coming to count reps while you exercise ... and you'll get tired of hearing "1, 1, 1, 1" over and over again.

 

[Caitlynne]

Damn this is/was a good thread.

The whole thing was well worth another read.

 

[RJMasters]

Damn this is/was a good thread.

The whole thing was well worth another read.

Nods. This thread had a huge impact on me as a person for many various reasons. I will often reread it and see new things or identify with things I missed the 1, 2 or even 3rd time aorund.

 

[Guest]

A return to sadism

I just recommended that someone else read this thread..
And here I haven't thought about it myself for quite a while...
So, I went back and read the entire thing again....
And I wanted to pose this question to all of the folks who posted to it before (the ones that are still with us at least)..
We are all in a state of well, evolution, for lack of a better word. So, any changes?
Any new thoughts on it since the heyday of the thread?

 

[RJMasters]

I just recommended that someone else read this thread..
And here I haven't thought about it myself for quite a while...
So, I went back and read the entire thing again....
And I wanted to pose this question to all of the folks who posted to it before (the ones that are still with us at least)..
We are all in a state of well, evolution, for lack of a better word. So, any changes?
Any new thoughts on it since the heyday of the thread?

I have learned I do not have alot of experience in controling, expressing or understanding some of the things which build up inside me.

I have found that I am a lycan-type, in that it isn't always on, but when I am aroused or get angry, it shows up.

I have found if I go a long extended peroid, like 3 or 4 days in a row in a state of peaked arousal without somekind of feed...I become extremely controlling....unreasonably controlling....everything has to be MINE MINE MINE. And when I don't get my way, I get schoolyard nasty about it. Its pretty fucking embarrasing.

My tastes for some of the extreme type of play have often found their way into my fantasies. Since accepting this as being a part of who I am, I no longer wonder myself why they show up, and have sort of relaxed and let them take their course as they will in the fantasies.

/End Update*

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Bumping this Thread because I need comforting............smiles

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

be it ever so humble............

 

[Etoile]

Thanks for the bump; this was a thread I had lost track of when I accidentally clicked "unsubscribe from ALL threads" instead of "unsubscribe from THIS thread" in an e-mail once.

I love RJ's first post on this thread. It's dreamy. A lot of people say they don't understand how one person can enjoy hurting another person...but that post is an excellent explanation.

I have told Daddy a few times to take out all eir sadistic tendencies on me...every time somebody pisses em off by cutting in line, or whatever, save up that angry energy and take it out on me. Being in a long-distance relationship makes it hard though...I can't be of service in that way as much as I would like!