Delving the Psyche of Sadists

[AngelicAssassin]

I've been getting considerable mileage out of other peoples' lines lately....

And quite adept with that twist of the wrist Gaston. Then again, i always liked that sadistic son of a bitch side about you. One day, i may repay you for the unabashed laughter you provided.

 

[Guest]

I don't do vaudeville

Damn Skippy!!

"Reads from the handy-dandy reference book of sadistic Doms...and I quote.."Never under any circumstances follow a woman who skips and carries an open jar or marmalade jam, as it is always...always...a trap!"

Ahhhh....The Kamanomicon...*grin*

From Pure
Sir Winston said,

I could accept the concept that those desires (needs) weren't evil or wrong or even perverted, as long as the person with whom I indulged them had the mirror image of them, and as long as I didn't do lasting damage (broken bones, visible scarring, organ damage, etc.).

Of course a 'realization' can have great impact and/or be 'freeing' without its being true, i.e., GWB's realization, at age 40 that Jesus was his personal savior, whose blood washes away all sin.

I understand why some sadists talk in terms of mirror image; theyre the same ones who speak of reciprocity, and (often) control/rule by the sub.

As I understand the 'classic sadist', a mirror image is the last thing he or she would want. (I assume what's meant is something like "I want to spank" mirrored--as it were-- in "I want to be spanked."

If I may use an analogy. If you glory in *seduction*, the LAST person you want to run into is someone *eager* to be seduced.

Ummm ..*sigh* I think I need a drink.

Though I WILL say that..There is no aphrodesiac quite as powerful as a manifest interest.

 

[Guest]

Barney Badass???????

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Barney Badass???????

He refers to a request i made earlier in the thread. Essentially, attempt to put your thoughts into words other than, "i am PYL, here me roar." We've kidded around a bit, but i've seen more honest attempts at real answers from deep inside in this thread than i have in quite a while.

 

[Guest]

He refers to a request i made earlier in the thread. Essentially, attempt to put your thoughts into words other than, "i am PYL, here me roar." We've kidded around a bit, but i've seen more honest attempts at real answers from deep inside in this thread than i have in quite a while.

True enough... I will admit it has certainly provoked a great deal of thought on my part.
And a certain amount of humor as well.

Though....

By RJah fuck-it....I just wanna hear someone yell in pain....especially if they are covered in Orange marmalade jam.

Pain isn't enough...I want that noise..The Pain/orgasm/confusion noise.
You know the one..
The one where they yell but they can no longer seperate if it's really pain or pleasure so intense they can't stand it.
The one that happens right before the orgasm where they lose control of their legs.

*sigh* Happiness.

P.S. personally I prefer Raspberry.

 

[RJMasters]

Essentially, attempt to put your thoughts into words other than, "i am PYL, here me roar." We've kidded around a bit, but i've seen more honest attempts at real answers from deep inside in this thread than i have in quite a while.

Ever watch a bird as it begins to hatch, and fights its way out of the shell.

In many ways this thread has been an awakening in me...

I posted earlier I don't sense the struggle continuiously...but I have felt this begin to change...over the last few days my hands have been clentching and releasing with an insatable ich...

And I hate/fear and relish the struggle at the same time, and the sheer will power I have needed to exert to maintain control...

So much for being lucky eh?

(goes off to brood for a while)

 

[AngelicAssassin]

P.S. personally I prefer Raspberry.

Regardless, it's still a jam frenzy. Stay from the phone. Way away from the phone.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

[mini-hijack]Orange marmalade? Raspberry jam? What the hell is wrong with you people? Don't you know the only acceptable toppings are whipped cream and/or chocolate syrup?[/mini-hijack]

 

[AngelicAssassin]

[mini-hijack]Orange marmalade? Raspberry jam? What the hell is wrong with you people? Don't you know the only acceptable toppings are whipped cream and/or chocolate syrup?[/mini-hijack]

You forgot your nuts.

 

[m wisdom]

You forgot your nuts.

And cherries.

 

[dolf]

*skips through with an assortment of condiments, fruits and preserves*

 

[Caitlynne]

**offers to serve as the condiment tray**

 

[Guest]

*skips through with an assortment of condiments, fruits and preserves*

Yah know ...Once upon a time, a friend of mine owned a business. Several of us were in there one day, when this young woman came in. She was a fairly regular customer, and since there were usually several not too bad looking, working guys there in the evenings, she was a regular flirt.
She got no takers for a while, so it had gotten a lot more obvious..

On this evening it was bad enough that when she left, my friend Rusty turned around and uttered the immortal and oft quoted phrase.
"Damn son..What that girl needs is a SERIOUS horse fuckin..."

 

[Guest]

[mini-hijack]Orange marmalade? Raspberry jam? What the hell is wrong with you people? Don't you know the only acceptable toppings are whipped cream and/or chocolate syrup?[/mini-hijack]

Deplorable lack of flexibility and imagination.....

 

[Wednesday'sRose]

Ok, so this thread and conversations that have come up because of it have brought me to an interesting realization.
I know this is going to sound stupidly odd, or at least obvious, being posted on a BDSM forum Sadist thread, but I realized that I have really never been able to get anything out of vanilla sex.

I mean, even my thought of "vanilla" has always included bite marks and scratch marks you could see the next day on either or both of the people involved. I honestly can never remember being able to get off on just straight vanilla sex. I can't even remember having fantasies that were just vanilla, and I started having fantasies when I was about 6 or 7 years old.

I'm a switch and I know that my dominant side is definitely a sadist. My submissive side isn't that big on masochism, but I definitely enjoy deep bite marks, scratching, spanking, hair pulling, etc. and that's before even mentioning toys. I just don't understand slow, soft, gentle sex.

And, yes, I do know how silly that probably sounded, but I am serious. It was an odd realization to come to that I had never really enjoyed what most people, at least publicly, think of as normal sexually. I guess what I"m saying is...sadism or masochism, it's all wonderful. I just can't deal with gentle and slow.

Ok, enough of the personal confessions section. Back to the fun!

 

[Guest]

Back in the saddle again...

Ever watch a bird as it begins to hatch, and fights its way out of the shell.

In many ways this thread has been an awakening in me...

I posted earlier I don't sense the struggle continuiously...but I have felt this begin to change...over the last few days my hands have been clentching and releasing with an insatable ich...

And I hate/fear and relish the struggle at the same time, and the sheer will power I have needed to exert to maintain control...

So much for being lucky eh?

(goes off to brood for a while)

*shrug* Realax..

Here's a good one - In a conversation today I opined that there was a lot of fairly nice philosophy, proverbs etc..
That are met with a certain amount of derision..Because of where they originate..
There is a quote from STNG (star trek next gen)... Form Warf..The Klingon..
About the internal struggle being the greatest.
I must go look it up again, because it is the best description of what some of us are referring to, that I have ever heard.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

I just don't understand slow, soft, gentle sex ...

We've all heard the following masochist/sadist gag:

Masochist: "Hurt me! Please hurt me!"

Sadist: "No."

Bearing this in mind, and not attempting to be funny at all, here's a serious question for any and all that care to respond.

As a sadist, dealing with a pyl with high pinging masochistic tendencies, would deliberately delving in the activity quoted above do anything for the sadist in you?

 

[Guest]

We've all heard the following masochist/sadist gag:

Masochist: "Hurt me! Please hurt me!"

Sadist: "No."

Bearing this in mind, and not attempting to be funny at all, here's a serious question for any and all that care to respond.

As a sadist, dealing with a pyl with high pinging masochistic tendencies, would deliberately delving in the activity quoted above do anything for the sadist in you?

Maybe...short odds maybe...but it would have to be MUCH more complex than that ..Into the whole deprivation play thing.
*grin* get em close to what they want and then stop...*sigh* Now THAT'S fun...

 

[Wednesday'sRose]

Maybe...short odds maybe...but it would have to be MUCH more complex than that ..Into the whole deprivation play thing.
*grin* get em close to what they want and then stop...*sigh* Now THAT'S fun...

I have to agree.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Maybe...short odds maybe...but it would have to be MUCH more complex than that ..Into the whole deprivation play thing.
*grin* get em close to what they want and then stop...*sigh* Now THAT'S fun...

i'd agree to a point. Intellectually, i can see it as a good exercise. Might be a good exercise in control for both parties involved, especially if done as a teaching exercise between PYL and pyl.

WHOB, on the other hand, wants blood, and if he can get a hurricane think agonizing screams from pain on the border of causing the pyl to pass out interrupted by a multi-wave orgasm on the part of the pyl out of it as well that's the icing, nuts, orange marmalade, or whatever damn topping you choose to top the dessert.

 

[Wednesday'sRose]

WHOB, on the other hand, wants blood, and if he can get a hurricane think agonizing screams from pain on the border of causing the pyl to pass out interrupted by a multi-wave orgasm on the part of the pyl out of it as well that's the icing, nuts, orange marmalade, or whatever damn topping you choose to top the dessert.

You know, on a really odd level both parts of me agree with that frame of mind. Hmmm, I think I'm starting to understand what it feels like to have multiple personalities.

 

[Guest]

WHOB, on the other hand, wants blood, and if he can get a hurricane -think agonizing screams from pain on the border of causing the pyl to pass out interrupted by a multi-wave orgasm on the part of the pyl out of it as well that's the icing, nuts, orange marmalade, or whatever damn topping you choose to top the dessert.

*sigh* Yeah....

 

[RJMasters]

WHOB, on the other hand, wants blood, and if he can get a hurricane think agonizing screams from pain on the border of causing the pyl to pass out interrupted by a multi-wave orgasm on the part of the pyl out of it as well that's the icing, nuts, orange marmalade, or whatever damn topping you choose to top the dessert.

Don'tcha just love when the container is empty and there is nothing left...it is then you get to scrape the bottom of the container....and always manage to squeeze out just a little bit more. (I bet there is more than just me who likes to lick the bottom of the bowl)

Fevor broke today. I am very relaxed and feeling kinda like I am back to my normal self(whatever that means). Felt kinda weird though...at the time I could really feel my blood pumpin...my hands itching...and hungry...kinda...like I woulda killed for a steak I could've sunk my teeth into... Gives me kinda of a new view on werewolves and vampires if you know what I mean.

Glad the level of intensity has lessened for me a bit, perhaps now I wont't be as distracted and I can get some work done.

 

[Guest]

Re: Back in the saddle again...

*shrug* Realax..

Here's a good one - In a conversation today I opined that there was a lot of fairly nice philosophy, proverbs etc..
That are met with a certain amount of derision..Because of where they originate..
There is a quote from STNG (star trek next gen)... Form Warf..The Klingon..
About the internal struggle being the greatest.
I must go look it up again, because it is the best description of what some of us are referring to, that I have ever heard.

Grins and Giggles..

The episode was "Heart of Glory"

"My brother, it is you who does not see. You look for battles in the wrong place. The true test of a warrior is not without, it is within."

Thats part of the quote if I remember correctly - but also if I remember...You have to really see the whole thing for it to work..

 

[Sir_Winston54]

And cherries.

My nuts come as part of the package. That's automatic. I hate to have to admit, though, that my cherry was lost a looooong time ago.