Discussion Thread - 10th Annual Literotica Reader's Choice Awards

[PrincessErin]

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[scouries]

[size=+2]james r scouries[/size]

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My take on the VARIOUS INDIVIDUAL CATEGORIES

REVIEWS AND ESSAYS

50 people voted last year which wasn’t that bad. And my pal Freddie was a nominee. Unfortunately he didn’t win.

FULL DISCLOSURE: This is a difficult category for me to comment on because one of the nominees in this contest and I have a long running animosity towards each other. However, I’ll try not to let it influence my comments.

20 have voted this year but already there have been claims of irregularities. The story that’s presently far ahead was penned to help win a few bucks in the SURVIVOR contest.

My biggest argument with it is that it’s neither a REVIEW nor an ESSAY. It’s a LIST! I have no idea why it was accepted into this category – it definitely should have been rejected. A list is not an ESSAY. Nor a REVIEW! Period. If it wins I’m thinking of entering my weekly grocery list in the ESSAY category this year.

In the end I chose Female Ejaculation by bo gun. it will be up to every voter to decide for themselves if a well executed marketing plan by a famous LITEROTICAN justifies a list being named ESSAY/REVIEW of the year. It’s your call.

NOVELS

41 people cast votes last year and unfortunately it was won by the eighteenth chapter of a multi chapter story. JESUS! Of course this category encourages chapters. My suggestion is that in this category we only nominate complete novels in the future.

29 have already voted so far this year. Which is a good start! The stories nominated in this category are all pretty long so it will take a real commitment if you want to vote in this category. I chose Dear Mother by coaster2

NON-HUMAN

70 people voted in this one last year and it was won by someone called marshman (NOT AGAIN!). It’s always surprised me how popular this category is.

This year this is one of the really big categories. 64 votes so far. It pits two of the giants and perhaps two of the ten most popular stories put up on LITEROTICA last year.

Elianna vs. secretme!

Leader of the Pack vs. Falling Into Darkness!​

It would have been better if LAUREL had put complete story vs complete story instead of chapter 13 vs 26 but what the hell, I’m sure most people will base their votes on the complete sagas.

Even though the Big E often uses difficult to pronounce character names I went with her and her story Falling Into Darkness. But either of them would have been a worthy winner.

NON CONSENT

Only 39 votes were cast last year in a category that had lots of chaptered stories nominated. The winner needed only 12 votes! Which is very strange because this is one of the most popular categories on the site. I think the lack of interest may be due to the fact that so few of the really good and popular stories seem to make it through the nominating process. And not only in this category - the problem exists in most of the important categories.

This year it already has 20 votes. Unfortunately, again this year, all the nominees are chapters, not complete stories. I liked bambigirl’s offering but there’s no way I’m going to read all 22 chapters. In the end I chose Yuko’s Punishment by loveking.

NON EROTIC

72 votes cast last year – however, as others have noted, most of them were made by ALTS. Quite frankly I’m not a big fan of non erotic stories on an erotic site like LITEROTICA and hence I usually wouldn’t even take the time to vote.

But what the hell! DG is in the running and I’d like to see him win something. So I voted for his. It’s called You Gave Me a Mountain by DG.

…more category choices will follow in the days to come…

I’m james r scouries and I’d like to see some changes…

[size=+2]Dolphins still like Freddie for best poet…[/size]

 

[sr71plt]

I was just looking at the different readers polls and on average we have less than 50 votes per poll but alot of the polls have over a thousand hits!! Incest poll has almost 4,000 hits but has less than100 votes.. People are looking at the polls but not bothering to vote.

People if your are going to look please vote.

Everyone that is nominated like them or not has worked hard on their writting.

So if you are being entertained by all the bs that we are writting on this thread PLEASE take the time to vote ..

This ends this rant.

PLEASE VOTE

You seem to be leaving out a step. In a meaningful contest, people would read the entries before they voted. Here, not so much, I think.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkjcw1
I was just looking at the different readers polls and on average we have less than 50 votes per poll but alot of the polls have over a thousand hits!! Incest poll has almost 4,000 hits but has less than100 votes.. People are looking at the polls but not bothering to vote.

People if your are going to look please vote.

Everyone that is nominated like them or not has worked hard on their writting.

So if you are being entertained by all the bs that we are writting on this thread PLEASE take the time to vote ..

This ends this rant.

PLEASE VOTE

You seem to be leaving out a step. In a meaningful contest, people would read the entries before they voted. Here, not so much, I think.

Hi's right. If there are five nominees for a category, you have to go to that cat. five times to cast an honest vote, one time to click on each nominee. That would be a minimum. If you don't finish a story on one sitting, you would have to go back, resulting in another view.

And, of course, there are people who have already voted and go back to the site repeatredly to watch how the voting is going.

 

[sharkjcw1]

SR you and BOX are right, I would hope that people would record the nomines and do it that way but most just go back and keep looking at the threads.

 

[sr71plt]

SR you and BOX are right, I would hope that people would record the nomines and do it that way but most just go back and keep looking at the threads.

My point, actually, is that most aren't reading all of the nominated stories before voting at all. It's a writer's popularity/unpopularity poll in the main. Wouldn't really have to put any story names to it--just that of the authors.

 

[LadynStFreknBed]

My point, actually, is that most aren't reading all of the nominated stories before voting at all. It's a writer's popularity/unpopularity poll in the main. Wouldn't really have to put any story names to it--just that of the authors.

<snerk>

Unfortunately, you are correct.

 

[scouries]

[size=+2]james r scouries[/size]

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[size=+2] 10TH ANNUAL LITEROTICA READER'S CHOICE AWARDS
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My take on the VARIOUS INDIVIDUAL CATEGORIES

MIND CONTROL

Only 24 votes last year which was terrible! The winner only needed 12 votes.

15 have voted this year and as of now it’s a five way tie with 3 votes each. At least three of the stories are multi chapter ones. The other two are very weird.

In the end I chose selva by jjcole even though I’m not sure it’s in the right category.

MATURE

66 votes were cast last year and rachlou, an AH favorite and LIT old timer, someone who somehow organizes it so she’s nominated every year, ran away with it. At least the marshman didn’t win this one too. Although there were rumors that there may have been some tit for tat voting involved.


24 have already voted so far this year. Which is a good start! The early leader (and by a wide margin) is a chapter 3 of some long saga and is authored by a veteran AHer. I didn’t particularily like it but some may. There is something about this category that seems to draw them. I chose That Summer by mugsyb

LOVING WIVES

Only 56 votes last year! In LITEROTICA’S most commented upon category. Which seems strange. AsylumSeeker, another wily old vet and AHer won relatively easily with the third chapter of his story.

For some reason the nominees in this category never seem to come from the greats nor do we ever get to vote on the most popular stories. The nature of the present nominating process means we get the bland and less interesting instead of the brilliant. When I looked at this years nominees I couldn’t help but think that the system is broken. Where are the Slickmans, the TryAnythings, the rgjohns, the ohios of yesteryear. Why wasn’t DG nominated? Or curious2c? In a category where stories regularly receive 300, 400 or 500 rating votes these nominees are all between 50 and150.

46 votes so far! Unfortunately it looks like the fix is in as a runaway is in course as jake60 already has 32 votes and a huge lead. Many people believe that our pal jake is another one of boys ALTS but even though evidence is mounting we haven’t received final confirmation yet. MANU is investigating. I voted for Sands of Time.

LETTERS + TRANSCRIPTS

Only 38 votes were cast last year in a category that has never captured the imagination of the LIT reading public. It’s usually dominated by SURVIVALISTS. My old friend, the blue emu won easily in 2007. The evil mungoIII trailed in third place.

This year it already has 18 votes. The blue emu again has been nominated which is strange because I’d heard she was lost in the Australian outback and hadn’t written anything for months. I liked KarennaC’s Dirty Little Secret and accordingly voted for it (putting her in the lead!) and hopefully she’ll repay the favor (hint, hint).

LESBIANS

Only 24 lesbians took the time to vote last year – I guess they were so busy posting in AHland that they didn’t have the time to vote. Hopefully a few more of them will vote this year. It took only 8 votes to win.

19 so far this year and the choice this time is easy. He’s LITEROTICA’S greatest living author. Period!

To those of you who don’t know him, rgjohn, gary to his friends, is both LITEROTICA’S MOST POPULAR AUTHOR as well as it’s MOST CRITICALLY acclaimed. The nominated story, Hearts on Fire Ch 2 is a sequel to his 2003 story which has amassed over 1200 votes. He’s a 1000+ VOTE CLUB member, a 100+ COMMENT CLUB member, author of some of the most read stories on the site as well as some of the highest rated.

…more category choices will follow in the days to come…

I’m james r scouries and I’d like to see some changes…

[size=+2]Dolphins still like Freddie for best poet…[/size]

 

[Boxlicker101]

My point, actually, is that most aren't reading all of the nominated stories before voting at all. It's a writer's popularity/unpopularity poll in the main. Wouldn't really have to put any story names to it--just that of the authors.

No, you would still need the story name. After all, many authors post numerous stories in single categories.

If a person is a fan of a particular author, then that person has read the story by that author that was nominated. To be fair, they should also read the other nominated stories. However, not everybody is fair.

 

[JADED_ONE1969]

I have a question.

I don't normally write on this forum. So I don't really know the forum rules about what you can and can't say.

I am very flattered to have a story in a contest. But I have to ask why did someone put my story Goodbye (from the letters and transcripts section) As I said I am grateful for whoever did and the 5 people that have voted for me again thank you.

As far as writing stories I am at best less than average, which of course any one who has read my stories will tell you. So I amazed someone would put my story forward.

GW

 

[fieryjen]

I don't normally write on this forum. So I don't really know the forum rules about what you can and can't say.

I am very flattered to have a story in a contest. But I have to ask why did someone put my story Goodbye (from the letters and transcripts section) As I said I am grateful for whoever did and the 5 people that have voted for me again thank you.

As far as writing stories I am at best less than average, which of course any one who has read my stories will tell you. So I amazed someone would put my story forward.

GW

Your story made it to this final selection because of the high voting score it received, not because someone decided to nominate it. So it's all your high-voting fans who made this happen. Congrats.

 

[JADED_ONE1969]

Thank you Fieryjen.

That helps explain things. Although I didn't know the scores were that good. The story itself is hovering around 4.30 which for ME is very good.

 

[sr71plt]

No, you would still need the story name. After all, many authors post numerous stories in single categories.

If a person is a fan of a particular author, then that person has read the story by that author that was nominated. To be fair, they should also read the other nominated stories. However, not everybody is fair.

Are you really that obtuse to what I'm saying?

 

[TxRad]

Many people believe that our pal jake is another one of boys ALTS but even though evidence is mounting we haven’t received final confirmation yet.

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Sorry scouries but I only have one alt and that's the one I co-write under with SweetSubSarahh.

Keep trying. As always it's the Ah's fault that you never win anything. It couldn't be the poor writing, could it. Spend more time learning the craft and less time on this bullshit and you might make it someday. If you spent as much energy on your stories as you do on the hype then they would have a chance. Just a suggestion.

 

[scouries]

QUOTE Sorry scouries but I only have one alt and that's the one I co-write under with SweetSubSarahh (and the thirty-seven others I use for voting purposes)....

QUOTE ace The category is sort of a weird one... And none of those nominated were high on the list in my own mind of those who influence writing here in the content and technique sense.

I did see one who influenced writers on Lit. to a significant degree in another aspect of writing above the others nominated. Selena Kitt opened up a publishing house in 2008 and gave e-book/print publishing opportunites to a whole bunch of Lit. authors, helping them to move up a step in their writing experience and connection with readers. That's a legitimate "writing influence," I think. So I voted for Selena Kitt.

If she hadn't started up this publishing house and someone had put a gun to my head and told me I had to vote for someone actually nominated and have reasoning on why I did so--I'm sure I would have voted for Freddie--as the greatest influence on writers here last year

The category is called MOST INFLUENTIAL WRITER and certainly the accent is on writer.

Its hard to call someone who opens a publishing house the MOST INFLUENTIAL WRITER. What if she hadn’t submitted any stories at all? Perhaps ‘most influential literotican’ or some other such title but not I think this one.

What if someone had opened a pizza parlor and sent AHers free pizzas for a year? This might produce an uptick in our writers quantity/quality writing matrix but would we give the cook the title of MOST INFLUENTIAL WRITER?

I think not.

Oh, BTW, seeing you’re our resident expert on all matters literotical, is a LIST an ESSAY? Did you vote for it?

I’m james r scouries and I’d like to see some changes…

[size=+2]Dolphins always vote for freddie…[/size]

 

[sr71plt]

I responded to this on the AH "Most Influential Writers" thread.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Are you really that obtuse to what I'm saying?

So, what brought that on? To your post that said:

Quote:
Originally Posted by sr71plt
My point, actually, is that most aren't reading all of the nominated stories before voting at all. It's a writer's popularity/unpopularity poll in the main. Wouldn't really have to put any story names to it--just that of the authors.

I responded:

No, you would still need the story name. After all, many authors post numerous stories in single categories.

If a person is a fan of a particular author, then that person has read the story by that author that was nominated. To be fair, they should also read the other nominated stories. However, not everybody is fair.

I was expressing mild disagreement with your last sentence. If a nominated author has written several stories in one category, and some were better than others, how would a voter know what story was meant? It's a STORY that is nominated (or poem or essay) and the author's name is attached to it, but it's the story that is voted for.

 

[LadynStFreknBed]

I was expressing mild disagreement with your last sentence. If a nominated author has written several stories in one category, and some were better than others, how would a voter know what story was meant? It's a STORY that is nominated (or poem or essay) and the author's name is attached to it, but it's the story that is voted for.

I could be wrong, but I think the pilot was just saying that the voting is often more of a popularity contest of the writers more than the merits of the specific story. Ideally, everyone who votes would read all the nominations and select the best one. Ideally. It just doesn't happen that way.

Think about it, Box. If a reader browsing through the entries for a category sees the name of an author that the reader likes for some reason or another, that reader is likely to just vote for that author instead of taking the time to read all the entries. Not many readers are going to take the time to read all the stories for that category much less all the categories.

That's just my opinion, of course. And, pilot, I apologize if I misunderstood what you were saying.. and for calling you "pilot" cuz I can't think of your username offhand.

 

[sr71plt]

I could be wrong, but I think the pilot was just saying that the voting is often more of a popularity contest of the writers more than the merits of the specific story. Ideally, everyone who votes would read all the nominations and select the best one. Ideally. It just doesn't happen that way.

Think about it, Box. If a reader browsing through the entries for a category sees the name of an author that the reader likes for some reason or another, that reader is likely to just vote for that author instead of taking the time to read all the entries. Not many readers are going to take the time to read all the stories for that category much less all the categories.

That's just my opinion, of course. And, pilot, I apologize if I misunderstood what you were saying.. and for calling you "pilot" cuz I can't think of your username offhand.

Yep, it didn't have anything to do with reading stories . . . obviously.

 

[scouries]

[size=+2]james r scouries[/size]

on the

[size=+2] 10TH ANNUAL LITEROTICA READER'S CHOICE AWARDS
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My take on the VARIOUS INDIVIDUAL CATEGORIES

INTERRACIAL

She came from nowhere. A rookie. A hot young babe!

She’s not only a great writer but she’s also a master marketer. She already has 63 votes in a category that usually doesn’t draw much attention. I was immediately reminded of a young danikat or when I first saw her in action. Lets hope she’s a kinder, gentler version. But don’t get in her way! She’s hungry and if you don’t watch out she’ll eat you.

She’s soular! Continuing the tradition of great LITEROTICANS having names that start with [size=+3]S[/size]! (Slickman… sarahhh…scouries… samslam… shale… samuelX… strickland83… StefanJ… sweetsubsarah …StoriesbyJake… etc., etc.)

Unfortunately all the nominees this year are chapters and not stories. Honorable mention in this cat must go to secretfantasy69, another brilliant S’er.

However, my main complaint with this category is that LAUREL never allows our most famous black author to take part in these annual contests. Where is [size=+2]SamuelX[/size]? He should be nominated every year. Why are we still discriminating against our black brothers? When will LITEROTICA give the African-American a chance? I believe it’s time for change!

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INCEST

No best sellers nominated this year!!!! Which is sad. Again I have to ask: Where are the great authors? Where are the popular stories?

And of course he’s up to his shenanigans again. When I clicked open the AWARDS AND CONTESTS forum back on May 1st I found that LAUREL had named the nominees and opened the voting that very morning. Interested I scrolled through the various contest categories seeing who’d been nominated. Hardly any votes had been cast of course. Heck it was the first morning of the first day of the contest.

Except for three stories, all of which had received 13 votes in the first few hours of the contest. Two of the stories by the same author and one by his ALT. Guess who by? Surprise, surprise! Either he’d been awarded these votes in advance (which wouldn’t be fair) or he got up early that morning and cast them himself. We’ll probably never know the truth. I do hope MANU investigates.

Here are the figures for one of these stories as posted recently by the author himself:

– Sisters Twins fight and then learn about sex with their cousin.
4.82 170 62029 Incest/Taboo (English) 03/13/08 approved
Public Comments: 6 Moderate Public Comments

ONLY 62,000 views? For the supposed best story in the category.
ONLY 170 votes! In a category where anything less than 300 is poor.
ONLY 6 comments? Huh, that’s it?

I don’t want to pick on boy. He’s a good, workmanlike oil well worker who tries his best to produce good stories. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But it would be remiss of me not to point out that over 1500 INCEST stories in 2008 received over 300 votes! And that over a thousand outsold his effort! How could any one in their right mind argue that his work is in the TOP 100 let alone the best?

It’s an average work that was carried to a monthly victory on the back of his ALTS and his tit-for-tatting AH friends. It’s a perfect example of the broken system that underlies all LITEROTICA contests. His victory here will simply add ammunition to those who are working to bring change and fairness to LITEROTICA.

I chose The Eavesdropping Daughter by Ahabscribe. It has over 350 votes and 14 comments! Not great but much, much higher than the leader. And in a much shorter time period. The people have spoken!


ILLUSTRATED

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HUMOR

Absolutely no contest. She won last year and she’ll win this year. She’s simply the best. This is one category where a great story and brilliant author were nominated.

Can you say [size=+2] sarahhh ?[/size] Enough said.

HOW TO

This is a category I hate. There’s only 653 How To stories on the site. And that’s even though there’s a HOW TO CONTEST every year and is a home for SURVIVALISTS. As the famous mathematician Owlwhisper pointed out in his LITEROTICA numbers story – the easiest category to win a contest in is HOW TO. By a factor of some 15 to 25 times compared to the popular categories.

Which is why clever AHers like and sweetsub always try to slip one of these stories in during one of the quiet months. It’s a good strategy if you want to win a turquoise W. Still…

I voted for Improve Your Literotica Experience by ladyfreakenstein. I had to, hell, she promised to back Freddie and I. mind you I was sorely tempered to go for “Worship His Cock”!

…more category choices will follow in the days to come…

I’m james r scouries and I’d like to see some changes…

[size=+2]Dolphins still like Freddie for best poet…[/size]

 

[TxRad]

Thank you scouries for the glowing review of my story. I just wish you had actually read the story before you shot your mouth off. You might have learned something. As it is, you're letting your preconceived ideas overload your hummingbird sized mind. I wrote this story to show you how it was done. You belittled it when it won the monthly and you are belittling it now.

As you've been told a thousand times. The only number that means anything is the score. Total number of votes, views, and comments are just numbers and all of them can be manipulated easily. Scores are looked over by Manu and he does a pretty good job for the most part. Not a perfect job but the best he can with an imperfect system.

Spend more time on your stories and you could be in the running next year. You're always saying that you are for the readers, well, maybe if you gave the readers your best, they might return the favor.

Yeah, this is the true you.

Edited to ask: What alt are you referring to? Sarahh & Tex aren't in the running and that's my only alt.

 

[scouries]

Here are the vote totals and the winners totals and names (in brackets) for some of the past MOST INFLUENTIAL POET contests (at least we’re already guaranteed that the winner will have at least the second highest vote total of all time – and hey, if eve or freddie get going we may set a new record!):

LITEROTICA ANNUAL AWARDS

MOST INFLUENTIAL POET - VOTES CAST

10th 115 so far this year
9th 72 (23 vampiredust)
8th 109 (32 vampiredust)
7th 108 (35 my erotic tail)
6th 197 (79 wicked eve)
5th 114 (38 sweetsub)
4th 79 (23 angeline)

I’m james r scouries and I’d like to see some changes…

[size=+2]Dolphins want to be vote for freddie…[/size]

 

[scouries]

QUOTE As you've been told a thousand times. The only number that means anything is the score. Total number of votes, views, and comments are just numbers and all of them can be manipulated easily.

You’re not that dumb ! A rating score without the number of votes it’s based upon is worth nothing. Not knowing the percent of VIEWS who VOTED is likewise worth nothing.

You need all the numbers to be able to evaluate a story. You also need to know what is poor, average or good for each category. Check out the two stories by Owlwhisper if you want to learn anything about LITEROTICA numbers.

Your 170+ VOTES would be excellent in many categories. In INCEST it’s not. There’s no getting around this fact.

And your 170 votes on 62,029 views (about 1 in 400 – ¼ of 1 percent) isn’t good either. Good stories should have at least 2 to 3 times your percentage. Great ones much, much higher.

If a story has 170 votes and another 350 I’m going to open the later.

Comments likewise give us a feeling for how the story affected your reader. If one story gets 6 comments and another 60, I, for one, am going to click open the story with 60.

C’mon, be honest for once!

I’m james r scouries and I’d like to see some changes…

[size=+2]Dolphins will be rooting for the Penguins…[/size]

 

[Saucy_Sage]

And your 170 votes on 62,029 views (about 1 in 400 – ¼ of 1 percent) isn’t good either. Good stories should have at least 2 to 3 times your percentage. Great ones much, much higher.

"Should?" Based on what? Some sort of statistical analysis of "good" vs. "great" stories?

If a story has 170 votes and another 350 I’m going to open the later.

Comments likewise give us a feeling for how the story affected your reader. If one story gets 6 comments and another 60, I, for one, am going to click open the story with 60.
C’mon, be honest for once!

How do you find out this information, in particular the number of comments, before you click open the story?

 

[TxRad]

"Should?" Based on what? Some sort of statistical analysis of "good" vs. "great" stories?



How do you find out this information, in particular the number of comments, before you click open the story?

He doesn't have a clue. He has to be an accountant with a fetish for numbers.

He can inflate his views and comments but he can't inflate his score, although he tries all the time. If his writing was half as well done as his bullshit.... well, we've been over that before.