Donald Trump loves the poorly educated

[YDB95]

^^ this guy right here.....

Even if that were accurate, it's got absolutely nothing to do with what we were discussing.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Even if that were accurate, it's got absolutely nothing to do with what we were discussing.

It is true and it's absolutely on point.


You criticize others for not understanding the evil in this world.

You DO understand that there is value in understanding the evil in this world so we can work to prevent the spread of it, don't you?

While running around regularly promoting socialism, THE most murderous and blood soaked political ideology ever created by mankind like a good comrade.

 

[Spandex_Girl]

Donald Trump is the most anti-science president I have ever had the displeasure to witness. He believes that vaccines are harmful and has repeatedly and erroneously suggested that they cause autism. He tells parents that doctors are liars and tells parents to "save our children" by not vaccinating them.

Adding insult to injury, Trump wants to appoint a celebrated anti-vaccine crusader to chair a commission on vaccine safety and integrity.

He also claims that global warming is a "hoax" and a "scam" created by the Chinese.

He's also taken to firing scientists at the EPA, the CDC and other government agencies, and censoring the scientists who remain.

There is a war being waged against scientists in America, and Donald Trump is one of the generals waging this war.

The Trump administration’s hostility towards climate science is not new. Interior climate staffer Joel Clement’s reassignment and the blocking of intelligence aide Rod Schoonover’s climate testimony, which forced both federal employees to resign in protest, are just two of the innumerable examples. These attempts to suppress climate science can manifest themselves in many ways. It starts with burying important climate reports and becomes something more insidious like stopping climate scientists from doing their jobs. In February 2019, I lost my job because I was a climate scientist in a climate-denying administration. And yet my story is no longer unique.

It was while I was on leave that I received an email from another climate scientist at the NPS who warned me that the senior leadership was ordering changes to my report without my knowledge. They had scrubbed of any mention of the human causes of the climate crisis. This was not normal editorial adjustment. This was climate science denial.

A months-long battle ensued. Senior NPS officials tried repeatedly, often aggressively, to coerce me into deleting references to the human causes of the climate crisis from the report. They threatened to make the deletions without my approval if I would not agree, to release the report without naming me as the primary author, or not release it all. Each option would have been devastating to my career and for scientific integrity. I stood firm.

And I prevailed. Media inquiries and open records requests about my report eventually led to letters from members of Congress, and the NPS was essentially forced to publish my report as I had written it.

The NPS continued to retaliate against me. I was forced to accept pay cuts and demotions while I continued to lead several other projects. By February of this year, the NPS declined to renew my funding, despite common knowledge that my branch at the time had ample surplus funding.

When I received this news, my immediate supervisors, who wished for me to stay, asked me to apply to be a volunteer so that I could continue my work. My volunteer application was denied without explanation. If there was any question about whether my termination had to do with legitimate budget constraints or with punishing me for not altering my report to suit the Trump administration’s agenda, that answered it.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ministration-climate-crisis-denying-scientist

 

[magicalmoments]

And not a lot people know this but, windmills give you cancer!

 

[Cubantripod]

When they are Republicans, they are poorly educated. When they were Democrats, they were workers. Go figure.

 

[jp55665566]

The Trump administration’s hostility towards climate science...

No one is "hostile to climate science". We are hostile to politically motivated and BIASED climate science.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

No one is "hostile to climate science". We are hostile to politically motivated and BIASED climate science.

You mean like the stuff Trump keeps spewing forth?

 

[BotanyBoy]

You mean like the stuff Trump keeps spewing forth?

Trump isn't the one putting that forth, he's the one laughing at it and driving those who are INSANE.

 

[Ziggins]

And not a lot people know this but, windmills give you cancer!

Giant windmills can look pretty while driving past, but they are poor investments. Assembling one is a major construction project, with a new road to the site, a crane to lift the pieces, etc. When something breaks, the crane must go back to lift a new piece, and the various bits of gadgetry come from factories and mines around the world. Shipping the materials and parts is more energy expense. Building many smaller windmills is backyard construction by farmers, mechanics, carpenters, whoever has the skill and windy land and wants free energy, but those aren't subsidy dumpsters controlled by corporations.

 

[YDB95]

Trump isn't the one putting that forth, he's the one laughing at it and driving those who are INSANE.

And here we have the true allure of Trump in a nutshell. He makes it not only OK, but cool to be ignorant.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And here we have the true allure of Trump in a nutshell. He makes it not only OK, but cool to be ignorant.

Close....he makes it not only OK, but cool to fuck with the ignorant.

This was fun, but watching folks lose their fucking minds over it like he had beaten a baby to death on live TV was the real treat.
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[Ziggins]

Of course Trump loves the poorly educated, since there are so many as the American education system fails at ever greater cost, and they do most of the work here: hauling your garbage, fixing your car, etc. If you're a politician and you don't at least claim to love them, you may be unemployed. If you'd rather hate them, then you would be hating America.

 

[Conager]

And here we have the true allure of Trump in a nutshell. He makes it not only OK, but cool to be ignorant.

Of course Trump loves the poorly educated, since there are so many as the American education system fails at ever greater cost, and they do most of the work here: hauling your garbage, fixing your car, etc. If you're a politician and you don't at least claim to love them, you may be unemployed. If you'd rather hate them, then you would be hating America.

It sounds to me like both of you are ignorant about what the words ignorant and education actually mean.

Unless I miss my guess you have both been indoctrinated in institutions of higher indoctrination run by the academic industrial complex and consider yourself to be highly "educated " as if education was a destination, an endpoint. As if one begins the process necessarily ignorant, spends four (or more) years with your ass in a chair with some socialist professors yammering at you, and at the end of term of indoctrination, you are quote educated unquote.

That's neither how education happens nor how ignorance is dispelled.

Used to be, a classical, liberal arts education was invaluable. The object was to increase one's capacity for critical thinking. Now the exact opposite seems to be the goal. Remove all critical thinking and become cheerfully indoctrinated with all of the appropriate, agreed upon "truths". Many of which can easily be shown to be demonstrably not true.

 

[Ziggins]

Used to be, a classical, liberal arts education was invaluable. The object was to increase one's capacity for critical thinking. Now the exact opposite seems to be the goal. Remove all critical thinking and become cheerfully indoctrinated with all of the appropriate, agreed upon "truths". Many of which can easily be shown to be demonstrably not true.

That is the difference between well educated and heavily educated. Meanwhile, keep an eye on the lightly educated. We'll be hearing more from them.

 

[jp55665566]

Elitists like to believe that those who have not attended a college or University are somehow less intelligent, or less informed than themselves.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Elitists like to believe that those who have not attended a college or University are somehow less intelligent, or less informed than themselves.

You mean a PhD in intersectional feminism doesn't make them superior human beings???

Say it ain't so!!

 

[Cubantripod]

Used to be, a classical, liberal arts education was invaluable. The object was to increase one's capacity for critical thinking. Now the exact opposite seems to be the goal. Remove all critical thinking and become cheerfully indoctrinated with all of the appropriate, agreed upon "truths". Many of which can easily be shown to be demonstrably not true.

Most students today are grossly undereducated. They take mainly social study courses, avoid the sciences and mathematics that helped developed a person's analytical reasoning and classical literature.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Most students today are grossly undereducated. They take mainly social study courses, avoid the sciences and mathematics that helped developed a person's analytical reasoning and classical literature.

But math is hard and classical literature is boring!! That makes them racist.

 

[Secretive_Victoria]

You simply can’t understand the present if you don’t understand the past. There is no more alarming case study of the consequences of historical ignorance than President Trump. He has adopted a foreign policy mantra of “America First” seemingly without realizing (or so I hope!) that the original America First Committee of 1940-1941 was sympathetic to the Nazis. And he has embraced tariffs seemingly without being aware of the disastrous consequences of the 1930 Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act.

More broadly, his appeals are steeped in misbegotten nostalgia. His slogan “Make America Great Again” implies that we must recover some lost golden age, a conceit that has been a constant of Western history since ancient Athens. Asked when America was great, Trump pointed to the early years of the 20th century and the 1940s-1950s. One wonders if he has heard of the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire? Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle”? The Balangiga Massacre? Lynchings? The Palmer Raids? McCarthyism? Task Force Smith? Orval Faubus? Of course, the United States did a lot of extraordinary things in the first half of the 20th century — but it was far from the paradise that Trump evokes. If Trump did understand that era, he wouldn’t be trying to undo its proudest achievements — from the Progressives’ regulation of business and protection of the environment to the Greatest Generation’s embrace of NATO and free trade.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...be683c-352d-11e9-854a-7a14d7fec96a_story.html

 

[Cubantripod]

But math is hard and classical literature is boring!! That makes them racist.

Hell, I don't think they even teach the fables they used to teach us in Kindergarten. You look at all the leftists flipping out and you have to wonder if they ever read The Tortoise and the Hare when they were in school.

 

[Cubantripod]

You simply can’t understand the present if you don’t understand the past. There is no more alarming case study of the consequences of historical ignorance than President Trump. He has adopted a foreign policy mantra of “America First” seemingly without realizing (or so I hope!) that the original America First Committee of 1940-1941 was sympathetic to the Nazis. And he has embraced tariffs seemingly without being aware of the disastrous consequences of the 1930 Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act.

More broadly, his appeals are steeped in misbegotten nostalgia. His slogan “Make America Great Again” implies that we must recover some lost golden age, a conceit that has been a constant of Western history since ancient Athens. Asked when America was great, Trump pointed to the early years of the 20th century and the 1940s-1950s. One wonders if he has heard of the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire? Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle”? The Balangiga Massacre? Lynchings? The Palmer Raids? McCarthyism? Task Force Smith? Orval Faubus? Of course, the United States did a lot of extraordinary things in the first half of the 20th century — but it was far from the paradise that Trump evokes. If Trump did understand that era, he wouldn’t be trying to undo its proudest achievements — from the Progressives’ regulation of business and protection of the environment to the Greatest Generation’s embrace of NATO and free trade.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...be683c-352d-11e9-854a-7a14d7fec96a_story.html

This is both intellectually lazy and dishonest.

 

[BotanyBoy]

He has adopted a foreign policy mantra of “America First” seemingly without realizing (or so I hope!) that the original America First Committee of 1940-1941 was sympathetic to the Nazis.

So? Nationalist are sympathetic to other nationalist, and the Nazis weren't wrong for their nationalism.

The Nazis were wrong for trying to turn the world in the their nation.

If they had stayed in Germany there would have never been a WWII, not as we understand it today anyhow.

If Trump did understand that era, he wouldn’t be trying to undo its proudest achievements — from the Progressives’ regulation of business and protection of the environment to the Greatest Generation’s embrace of NATO and free trade.

Regulation of business and NATO have been a fucking disaster.

Protection of the environment was taken too far and is now just a political/economic cudgel to beat those below you with and free trade was around long before the 'Greatest Generation'.

 

[Jesus_Ateo]

Donald Trump loves the poorly educated.

He’s told us so, himself.

He hates the intelligence community, he hates American judges, he hates CNN, he hate MSNBC, he hates NBC, he hate hates most of the American Free Press, he hates the United States Constitution, he hates Latinos, he hates immigrants, he hates the FBI, he hates investigative journalists and he hates fact-checkers…but he loves the poorly educated.

Honestly, Trump isn’t all that bright himself. The lies that he tells are sorely lacking in sophistication or credibility. Without the poorly educated, Trump’s candidacy would never have been able to get off the ground. The poorly educated are Trump’s base.

It’s sad that a presidential candidate would target America’s dullards, halfwits and dropouts as his primary voting bloc, however what’s even sadder is the fact that there are enough of them out there to sway a national election. And even once Trump is gone, they’ll still be out there, and they’ll still have the power to elect presidents, governors, senators and judges.

So, how large is this voting bloc that Trump loves so much? I can’t give you an exact number, however we’re talking about, however it’s well over a hundred million.

This is a horrifying thought, and I’d love to tell you that we’ve got the math wrong and that there aren’t nearly that many Americans out there who are so utterly clueless and ignorant, however, the facts speak for themselves.

The Pew Research Group has done polling of the American people to see just how intelligent the American population is, and here is what they’ve found:

Twenty-five percent of Americans cannot identify which nation American fought a war against to gain their independence.

Twenty-nine percent of Americans cannot locate the Pacific Ocean on a map of the world.

Thirty percent of Americans do not know what the Holocaust was.

Thirty-three percent of Americans are incapable of naming ANY of the three branches of the United States government.

More than thirty-seven percent of the American people cannot name a single right protected by the First Amendment.

Nearly fifty percent of Americans believe that global climate change is some sort of hoax.

Fifty-three percent of Americans believe that undocumented immigrants have no legal rights under the United States Constitution.

Fifty-five percent of Americans believe that Christianity was written into the U.S. Constitution and that the Founding Fathers wanted America to be a Christian theocracy.

Fifty-seven percent of Americans are unable to identify Herbert Hoover, or Herbert Hoover’s role in American history.

And even though it is a cornerstone of medical science, immunology, genetic science and biology, a shocking SIXTY-FIVE PERCENT of Americans do not believe in the theory of evolution!

Over two-hundred years ago, Thomas Jefferson told us that an enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a republic. He told us that self-government would not be possible unless the citizens were educated sufficiently to enable them to exercise oversight.

Trump is probably unaware of anything Thomas Jefferson said about the consequences of an uneducated citizenry, however, he seems to instinctively understand that an educated citizenry would not tolerate his lies and dishonest scheming. Trump doesn’t want an educated citizenry exercising oversight. He wants millions of credulous dullards mindlessly chanting slogans, believing absurd lies and supporting atrocities.

And while Donald Trump will soon be nothing more than a sad footnote in America’s history, the MILLIONS of intellectually-lazy dupes that believe America’s Founding Fathers wanted America to be a Christian theocracy, and think that climate change is a hoax, will still be with us. They will still be voting in national, state, local and school board elections.

Watching the way that the Republican Party has spent decades under-funding schools, pushing creationism as part of the school curriculum, denying the theory of evolution, vainly attempting to abolish the department of education and defaming teachers, college professors and scientists on right-wing radio, one could reasonably assume that the Republican Party actually WANTED to turn America into a nation swarming with millions of intellectually-lazy dupes.

Perhaps we should try to remove the Republicans from power, fully fund America’s schools, praise public school teachers for the admirable work that they do, commend all the good that scientists have done for this nation, and see if that helps to produce a more educated citizenry.

Trump loves the poorly educated so much he's trying to dramatically increase their numbers. He's proposing once again to cut billions of dollars from the Education Department, seeking to eliminate after-school programs, teacher training and grants for other school needs.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Trump loves the poorly educated so much he's trying to dramatically increase their numbers. He's proposing once again to cut billions of dollars from the Education Department, seeking to eliminate after-school programs, teacher training and grants for other school needs.

Yessss shoving the responsibility of education back to the states where it should be.

 

[Secretive_Victoria]

Donald Trump is the most anti-science president I have ever had the displeasure to witness. He believes that vaccines are harmful and has repeatedly and erroneously suggested that they cause autism. He tells parents that doctors are liars and tells parents to "save our children" by not vaccinating them.

Adding insult to injury, Trump wants to appoint a celebrated anti-vaccine crusader to chair a commission on vaccine safety and integrity.

He also claims that global warming is a "hoax" and a "scam" created by the Chinese.

He's also taken to firing scientists at the EPA, the CDC and other government agencies, and censoring the scientists who remain.

There is a war being waged against scientists in America, and Donald Trump is one of the generals waging this war.

You are absolutely right.


— In just three years, the Trump administration has diminished the role of science in federal policymaking while halting or disrupting research projects nationwide, marking a transformation of the federal government whose effects, experts said, could reverberate for years.

Political appointees have shut down government studies, reduced the influence of scientists over regulatory decisions and in some cases pressured researchers not to speak publicly. The administration has particularly challenged scientific findings related to the environment and public health opposed by industries such as oil drilling and coal mining. It has also impeded research around human-caused climate change, which President Donald Trump has dismissed despite a global scientific consensus.

But the erosion of science reaches well beyond the environment and climate: In San Francisco, a study of the effects of chemicals on pregnant women has stalled after federal funding abruptly ended. In Washington, D.C., a scientific committee that provided expertise in defending against invasive insects has been disbanded. In Kansas City, Missouri, the hasty relocation of two agricultural agencies that fund crop science and study the economics of farming has led to an exodus of employees and delayed hundreds of millions of dollars in research.

“The disregard for expertise in the federal government is worse than it’s ever been,” said Michael Gerrard, director of the Sabin Center for Climate Change Law at Columbia University, which has tracked more than 200 reports of Trump administration efforts to restrict or misuse science since 2017. “It’s pervasive.”

Hundreds of scientists, many of whom said they are dismayed at seeing their work undone, are departing.


https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...d1TdqPxjSiDV011wnxaWg_RPp0#Echobox=1577639513