"Fifty Shades of Grey"

What do you bet that had she been given a book that included scenes of excessively sexualized use of food she would be having orgasms over corned beef hash at the local diner?

Why does this remind me of the Ann-Margret food scene from Tommy?
 
I read Fifty Shades of Grey last night after happening upon this thread. The character development is very predictable at times and the first person narrative has an angsty undertone. The tone, some character traits, some details, and some of the plot remind me strongly of Twilight. I was repeatedly annoyed by the lack of open communication between him and her. Their relationship kind of pissed me off. I'll understand that better after I digest it for a day.

On the other hand, at least it wasn't a total cliche. The characters have some depth. It's engaging. There are some hot scenes. There are some very amusing email exchanges. Plus, I appreciate almost any BDSM-flavored romance/erotica work that has been proofread for spelling and grammar. It is not in my top 10 favorite books list but I'll probably read book two next time I'm bored.

I couldn't get into it, it didn't appeal to me, too slow, not like the many talented authors on here...and....maybe cause Oprah and Ellen liked it.....ha ha
 
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I had a next door neighbor that was a school teacher and married. We talked over a BBQ about the book and her husband had no interest. She was reading the 3rd book when she could not take it any more and she called me for relief. So I told to come over after her husband left from work. I wanted her dressed like she was teaching class (i.e. white blouse and skirt). She did and we did many things Gray did for Anna. I let her keep the nipple clamps. Patrick
 
I read cat's link, and two of the interviewed ladies there told that they started acting more dominant in bedroom, telling what they want and asking for guys to do that after having read 50 Shades.

So what's the story in 50 Shades, actually? Are the ladies identifying with Grey and becoming more dominant or is the female lead in the book telling what Grey needs to do to her and so on? I thought she was a helpless virgin who got taken by a shady stud, or something.
 
I haven't read this thing, but I get the impression she's pretty much an active bottom with a messed up top who rescues him from himself so that she gets pretty much the sex she actually wants from him.

IOW, how like, 90% of the D/s relationships out there actually work, in my observation, in an idealized sense.

RARE is the bdsm relationship that is not overtly controlled by the bottom but does not exist to respond to the "neeeeeeeeeds" of the bottom, as they've been called by people more keen than I am.
 
So what's the story in 50 Shades, actually? Are the ladies identifying with Grey and becoming more dominant or is the female lead in the book telling what Grey needs to do to her and so on? I thought she was a helpless virgin who got taken by a shady stud, or something.

Not at all. She's inexperienced but not clueless. She's not arrogant, but she does know what she wants and doesn't want. As he presents various opportunities and concepts to her (awkwardly at times) she is actively thinking through them, weighing and learning what she thinks will or won't work for her, and outspoken about her assessments, albeit in a sometimes insecure or hesitant way. In some ways they're both like awkward teenagers, crashing their way through a relationship that they want to work on some level but not knowing each other well enough to know how to say things the 'right' way. Pretty much the way most new relationships work, but with an added difficulty of, hmmmm, inexperience with each other's vocabularies. He knows nothing about a vanilla virgin and she knows nothing about his BDSM world. They stumble, they talk, but she has a very strong core from which to draw.

This is why I bristle at the comparisons to Twilight, though I now understand the fanfic aspect. Ana is nothing like Bella once you go beyond basic inexperience. She is a very strong woman, even if she doesn't always realize it. For the vanilla folks, I can definitely see where this would translate into women being more 'dominant' (likely just more outspoken about what they like or want).
 
Just adding my two cents...


I hated the book. I love the concept, but poor literary execution ruined for me what could have been an enjoyable afternoon tinglesession.

I was reminded of Twilight. :(

I much preferred "As She's Told" by Anneke Jacobs...although I'm sure there are even better books out there.

I also didn't care for "The Toy" by Claire Thompson.

There's really no accounting for taste. I just get twitches by the overuse of certain words in the Grey books - the author (imho) ...needs a thesaurus.

BUT. I very much enjoy alot of the work coming out of the Lit sections. >.<

/goes to find something for my current tinglesession
 
Just adding my two cents...


I hated the book. I love the concept, but poor literary execution ruined for me what could have been an enjoyable afternoon tinglesession.

I was reminded of Twilight. :(

I much preferred "As She's Told" by Anneke Jacobs...although I'm sure there are even better books out there.

I also didn't care for "The Toy" by Claire Thompson.

There's really no accounting for taste. I just get twitches by the overuse of certain words in the Grey books - the author (imho) ...needs a thesaurus.

BUT. I very much enjoy alot of the work coming out of the Lit sections. >.<

/goes to find something for my current tinglesession

"As She's Told" was amazing! It's one of the most intense D/s books I've ever read. Sometimes the writing style annoyed me, but overall it was excellent. The form of D/s wasn't exactly my cup of tea, but I couldn't put it down, anyway. I think that's a recommendation, right there. It was just so...compelling.
 
"As She's Told" was amazing! It's one of the most intense D/s books I've ever read. Sometimes the writing style annoyed me, but overall it was excellent. The form of D/s wasn't exactly my cup of tea, but I couldn't put it down, anyway. I think that's a recommendation, right there. It was just so...compelling.

I agree - I loved Carrie's Story, and the sequel, but As She's Told, although at times was .. more than what I would feel comfortable with .. kept my attention and made me wonder..


"what if"


... :D
 
I've just read 50 shades and am on the second book now. I've never tried BDSM before, but the book has made the want to... A lot!!!

This is my first post in the BDSM cafe and I think I may become a regular visitor!
 
I've just read 50 shades and am on the second book now. I've never tried BDSM before, but the book has made the want to... A lot!!!

This is my first post in the BDSM cafe and I think I may become a regular visitor!

well then... lets explore ;)
 

Oh, I dunno, I found this to be surprisingly level-headed about this. The message at the end was just 'try not to jump into bed with someone because their sex seems interesting, cultivate a relationship first.' That's solid advice, not at all like we're used to getting from these kinds of stories. One might debate about how much of the article is demonization vs how much is that good message, but whatever. It's a start. :rolleyes:

This is my first post in the BDSM cafe and I think I may become a regular visitor!

Welcome aboard. :) Might I suggest the BDSM category over on the story side of the site? Some of the stuff there is leagues better than Fifty Shades. ;)
 
try not to jump into bed with someone because their sex seems interesting, cultivate a relationship first.'
Well, that's normative advice, and should be prefeced by "Our society says;"

I've always established sexual compatibility first, then checked out relationship potential. It doesn't always work out, but then-- the other way doesn't have a perfect track record either.
 
Well, that's normative advice, and should be prefeced by "Our society says;"

I've always established sexual compatibility first, then checked out relationship potential. It doesn't always work out, but then-- the other way doesn't have a perfect track record either.

True enough, it could probably be refined to "Make sure your potential partner is not unbalanced or abusive before letting him break out the handcuffs," but that really should be more of a general safety kind of thing. I mean, that's certainly why I don't let guys I meet get me alone and tie me up before I've sussed out their deals... even if it's kind of a fantasy. :eek:

I guess the lesson to take away from stories like that is to do your research into what the kink is before jumping into it, and that's solid advice in a culture that's suddenly gotten way more curious in the wake of Fifty Shades. If I can have an extremely uncomfortable conversation with my sister about how it should work when she got curious, other people can at least search the web a bit first! :D

And to all those people who did exactly that and found their way here... Hi!
 
I guess the lesson to take away from stories like that is to do your research into what the kink is before jumping into it, and that's solid advice in a culture that's suddenly gotten way more curious in the wake of Fifty Shades. If I can have an extremely uncomfortable conversation with my sister about how it should work when she got curious, other people can at least search the web a bit first! :D

And to all those people who did exactly that and found their way here... Hi!

I'm finding myself in occasional situations where I feel the need to dispense advice from experience without wanting to go into my personal experience all that much. It's disconcerting, to say the least.
 
I've only read the first so far but what I'd really love to see is 5 years down the line when they're trying to balance loud kinky sex in a house with a young, light sleeping baby, a ton of housework and leaky boobs. But I can't see it'd make much of a book, though it'd be a damn sight more realistic.

I hope I'm not the only one who read his hard limits and went 'what a wuss!'.

Frankly I find him a really unappealing Dom . I'd have been long gone. Tempremetal and childishly sulky is not a turn on for me, nor is punishment in anger. If you can't control yourself, you don't deserve to control me.
 
I just uploaded the 3rd to my Kindle...I was disappointed with the 1st, felt a little better about the 2nd and now I'm hoping the 3rd is worth the effort and commitment to the trilogy...I shall see!
 
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