"Fifty Shades of Grey"

for what it's worth:

There are 232 fan stories on fanfiction .com for Grey triology. The madness may NEVER end!
 
Who-- Lovecraft? Naw. He's a man, in man's clothing. :)

Me? Sheep's clothing has no style. I like to wear wolf's clothing-- classy.
We're having two different conversations, here. Never mind. :rolleyes:
 
Y'know...from the way people talk about Fifty Shades here...I wonder: How many of us, generally experienced authors, could come up with something just as good, if not better?

This isn't to say, "Feh. Don't like it? You write something better." Because, if I made that challenge, someone inevitably would, and it probably would be better.

Just more of a curiosity. Y'know, make the main female character less of a blubbering tool or something.
 
Y'know...from the way people talk about Fifty Shades here...I wonder: How many of us, generally experienced authors, could come up with something just as good, if not better?

This isn't to say, "Feh. Don't like it? You write something better." Because, if I made that challenge, someone inevitably would, and it probably would be better.

Just more of a curiosity. Y'know, make the main female character less of a blubbering tool or something.

My shot at it is in my sig.

My female lead as well as every female in the book is as far from the simpering weak willed Ana as you can find.

The character of Mark is a far more broken bad ass than Gray could ever be

And most importantly? No one, ever refers to their pussy as down there:D

Now, I'm not saying its better (more accurate maybe) but A, it's my shot at it and B) its all original, rather than being a dressed up fanfic pastiche

You can read the first 3 chapters in the preview.
 
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Thing is, women can figure out that there are better books available, all by themselves. They don't need you to tell them-- Over and over and over and over...

Over and over...

And when you're competing against a romance, you need to write a romance. I can't write romances. You sure as hell can't.

Your book is harder core and more explicit but it isn't better than 50 Shades -- as far as that market is concerned.
 
50 shades of getting me laid

As a ubiquitous reference point for kinky sex, 50 Shades makes "Secretary" look like some obscure bullshit for weirdos. It's hard to meet a girl these days who isn't reading 50 Shades.

I gotta get my money right and I'm about to be all types of Christian Grey up in this bitch. I guess I should read the books too.
 
As a ubiquitous reference point for kinky sex, 50 Shades makes "Secretary" look like some obscure bullshit for weirdos. It's hard to meet a girl these days who isn't reading 50 Shades.

I gotta get my money right and I'm about to be all types of Christian Grey up in this bitch. I guess I should read the books too.

Be real moody and angry a lot, but read her mind in bed-- and let her somehow get the idea that you can be fixed.

Also, be a bazillionare.
 
Be real moody and angry a lot

Way ahead of you.

read her mind in bed

I used to think I was good at this, but then I realized women were thinking of more than "fuck me in the ass"

and let her somehow get the idea that you can be fixed.

Women often seem to think of this one on their own, with little help from me.

Also, be a bazillionare.

Working on it.
 
I would say, be attentive, thoughtful and protective. Not to be confused with overbearing, crazy, and possessive.

Everything in moderation.

Christian does have an appeal. In my opinion, anyway. ;)
 
I would say, be attentive, thoughtful and protective. Not to be confused with overbearing, crazy, and possessive.

Everything in moderation.

Christian does have an appeal. In my opinion, anyway. ;)

Yeah, I kind of agree with this. The irony is, if Grey toned it the fuck down, like, all of the time, then he'd probably be okay. He'd still be existing in a romance, not a kink novel, but he'd be completely tolerable, but for his really weird and stilted dialogue during sex. ;)
 
Yeah, I kind of agree with this. The irony is, if Grey toned it the fuck down, like, all of the time, then he'd probably be okay. He'd still be existing in a romance, not a kink novel, but he'd be completely tolerable, but for his really weird and stilted dialogue during sex. ;)
the author made her choices for whatever reason...

I read a lot of overwrought amateur fiction. Dudes tend to over reach their manliness, fucking and sluttiness of their females and ignore-- just a tendency-- the emotional aspects.

Women overreach many more things in the course of a narrative, if they are so inclined. Including emotions. That's how they roll.
 
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New to all of this and just exploring cause the fact is I've been married for 12 years and while sex is good it can get boring and real life intrudes a lot! I found the Grey series by accident and really enjoyed it. Found it to be a tad predictable and unrealistic but it did open some doors for me to look into.

Now am I ready to sign up for a whole new lifestyle? Hell no. Am I interested in learning more and maybe playing? Hell yeah.
 
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