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[KingOrfeo]

It's the truth however.

What? Are you a mullah? Are you even a Muslim? Who are you to say what is the true interpretation of the Koran? I don't know the Koran but I expect it's like the Bible, you could use it to prove practically anything.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

And at least one of them was named "Eisenhower."

One of the others was named Einstein.

 

[KingOrfeo]

What is going on in Europe today is only a continuation of what has been going on since the 7th Century wherever and whenever Islam brushes up against Christianity and Judaism. I say keep Islam out of the West.

You know, in most such conflicts from the 7th Century to the present -- not all, but most -- Christianity/the West has been the aggressor. Sometimes even the colonizer -- in the 11th Century and the 19th. And the Islamic world remembers that, even if the West has forgotten it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

One of the others was named Einstein.

And let that be a lesson to all who would drive all people of a certain ethnicity out of their country. Some people of that ethnicity might turn out to have extraordinary value.

 

[Boxlicker101]

What is going on in Europe today is only a continuation of what has been going on since the 7th Century wherever and whenever Islam brushes up against Christianity and Judaism. I say keep Islam out of the West.

Members of other faiths too. There were probably more Hindus murdered in the name of Islam than members of any other faith except, recently, other Muslims.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You know, in most such conflicts from the 7th Century to the present -- not all, but most -- Christianity/the West has been the aggressor. Sometimes even the colonizer -- in the 11th Century and the 19th. And the Islamic world remembers that, even if the West has forgotten it.

Not really. For the first four centuries of its existence, Islam was the aggressor, but mostly against Hindus and some against Christians and Jews. It was actually born in aggression, of Medina against Mecca.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Members of other faiths too. There were probably more Hindus murdered in the name of Islam than members of any other faith except, recently, other Muslims.

When India and Pakistan separated, there were a lot of murders of Hindus by Muslims -- and also a lot of murders of Muslims by Hindus. Since the partition required a lot of border families to pull up stakes and move to their religion's country, and then it just got out of hand and escalated into ethnic cleansing on both sides of the new borders.

I recall a scene from Gandhi: Gandhi -- after we've seen mobs rioting and burning and lynching and chanting "Death to Muslims! Death to Muslims!" and "Death to Hindus! Death to Hindus!" -- is on a now life-threatening-even-for-him hunger strike in protest of all of that. And, that means a lot to the nation -- both new nations -- that worship Gandhi-ji as their hero of independence. A delegation comes to him telling him it's finally settled, there will be no more killing. But he still won't eat until satisfied the killing really has stopped. One man throws a hunk of bread at Gandhi's feet (dialogue from memory):

YOUNG MAN: There, eat! I'm going to Hell, but not with your death on my soul!

GANDHI: Judgment belongs to God. What have you done, that Hell gapes before you?

YM: I killed a boy! A little Muslim boy! I picked him up by his ankles and dashed his head against a wall!

G: Why?

YM: The Muslims! They killed my son!

G: I know a way out of Hell. Find a boy . . . about so tall . . . whose parents have been killed in the riots, and raise him as your own. But, first, make sure that he is a Muslim, and that you raise him as one.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Not really. For the first four centuries of its existence, Islam was the aggressor, but mostly against Hindus and some against Christians and Jews. It was actually born in aggression, of Medina against Mecca.

Yes, for the first four centuries, that's why there is an Islamic world today. But, in the long run and in sum total, they're more sinned against than sinning, so far as expansionist aggression is concerned. Except perhaps for Saudi Arabia, there is not a single Islamic country today that has never been conquered, colonized or meddled with by Westerners. And, again, they remember that.

 

[Comshaw]

You may not be aware but an American General during WWII, close to FDR, once suggested rounding up German Americans, until told there were over twenty million of them in the Middle West.

At any rate, those people came from Western countries with existing sympathies for the American system. They did not come here to further an alien culture, or to create foreign enclaves within the United States, with an intent to be governed by a body of law repugnant to the Constitution or core American values.

The French have signed their own death warrant when they allowed those 751 Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones, within their territory to come into existence.

We aren't talking about foreign language accents here, we're talking about the intention of leaving your native culture and allegiances behind and willingly accept and assimilate into American culture, or in the case of France, French culture.

Please explain to me what "American Culture" is. As far as I know it can be wrapped up in one word: freedom. That means I don't have to speak English unless I want to, I don't have to worship how others tell me to, I don't have to do anything that isn't in violation of the constitution or local law. In other words I am free to live how I please. And i am totally free to tell dumb ass dip shits that demand I live how they want me to, to kiss my ass.
You, who tout freedom and the constitution at the top of your voice, should know that and support it. So the question is, why don't you? You demand that for yourself, so why try to deprive others of what you see as a right? Why demand on one hand that you be allowed to live free, while on the other hand you demand others live as you see fit? A double standard? Really?

But Sharia law is creeping in. Here is an example, and I'm sure there are many others: http://allenbwest.com/2013/11/sharia-law-coming-swimming-pool-near/

ETA: Here's a more extreme case: http://nationalreport.net/city-michigan-first-fully-implement-sharia-law/[/SIZE][/B]

No...you're being sarcastic right? you're makin' a funny, right? You have to be 'cause you really can't be that gullible and ignorant....can you?

Please educate yourself before you embarrass yourself any farther:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/sharia.asp



Comshaw

 

[Boxlicker101]

No...you're being sarcastic right? you're makin' a funny, right? You have to be 'cause you really can't be that gullible and ignorant....can you?

Please educate yourself before you embarrass yourself any farther:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/sharia.asp



Comshaw

That was only one of three examples and it does contain some truth. I could probably find more if I kept looking. There are definitely some people in Dearborn and MN and other places who would impose Sharia Law if they could, and they have enjoyed some success.

 

[phrodeau]

That was only one of three examples and it does contain some truth. I could probably find more if I kept looking. There are definitely some people in Dearborn and MN and other places who would impose Sharia Law if they could, and they have enjoyed some success.

Ooh! I read your examples and now I really hate their freedom! How can we allow this kind of freedom in our fine nation?

 

[Comshaw]

That was only one of three examples and it does contain some truth. I could probably find more if I kept looking. There are definitely some people in Dearborn and MN and other places who would impose Sharia Law if they could, and they have enjoyed some success.

I must be slipping because I only saw two (2) examples you posted. I must needs new glasses. And as for your original post, that's not what you said or implied. You used it as a specific example in it's totality with out an explanation. So you either believed it or knew it was bullshit and you were trying to shell game it as the truth. Which one is it?

Of course there are those who would impose their ways on others if they could. All you have to do is read through this thread to see a prime example. And yes in certain circumstances they have enjoyed some success, much to our shame.


Comshaw

 

[Boxlicker101]

Yes, for the first four centuries, that's why there is an Islamic world today. But, in the long run and in sum total, they're more sinned against than sinning, so far as expansionist aggression is concerned. Except perhaps for Saudi Arabia, there is not a single Islamic country today that has never been conquered, colonized or meddled with by Westerners. And, again, they remember that.

I doubt there is any country in the world that has never been conquered or colonized or meddled with, many of them by the Islamic Empire or the Ottoman Empire. Have any European nations ever tried to impose their state religions on any Muslim nations.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I must be slipping because I only saw two (2) examples you posted. I must needs new glasses. And as for your original post, that's not what you said or implied. You used it as a specific example in it's totality with out an explanation. So you either believed it or knew it was bullshit and you were trying to shell game it as the truth. Which one is it?

Of course there are those who would impose their ways on others if they could. All you have to do is read through this thread to see a prime example. And yes in certain circumstances they have enjoyed some success, much to our shame.


Comshaw

You're right. I was going to add another but I didn't. However, since I was only challenged to name one example, I was right. Here are some more examples of American institutions catering to Sharia Law and to Islam: http://nationalreport.net/city-michigan-first-fully-implement-sharia-law/

Would public schools bend over backward to as much a degree to accommodate Christian or Jewish children as they do Muslim children? You know the answer as well as I do. For what it's worth, I don't think public schools should make any special accommodation for any faiths.

 

[phrodeau]

You're right. I was going to add another but I didn't. However, since I was only challenged to name one example, I was right. Here are some more examples of American institutions catering to Sharia Law and to Islam: http://nationalreport.net/city-michigan-first-fully-implement-sharia-law/

Would public schools bend over backward to as much a degree to accommodate Christian or Jewish children as they do Muslim children? You know the answer as well as I do. For what it's worth, I don't think public schools should make any special accommodation for any faiths.

I remember having to eat fish on Fridays in the school cafeteria. What was that shit about?

 

[oggbashan]

I remember having to eat fish on Fridays in the school cafeteria. What was that shit about?

I had to eat unsweetened tapioca. We called it frogspawn.

I think that was institutional cruelty.

http://www.simplyrecipes.com/wp-content/uploads/2005/11/tapioca-pudding-b.jpg

 

[oggbashan]

I doubt there is any country in the world that has never been conquered or colonized or meddled with, many of them by the Islamic Empire or the Ottoman Empire. Have any European nations ever tried to impose their state religions on any Muslim nations.

Yes. Spain in the reconquest of Spain.

Muslims had to leave or convert to Christianity. If they did convert, they were still regarded with suspicion and were a prime target for the Spanish Inquisition.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

How do you think the Moors got into Spain and ruled there for 780 years, or Muslims into the Balkans? It was the Islamic Jihad. What did the Spanish government do about it? Have you studied the Reconquista? Didn't think so.

They got in Spain promising no taxes for converts, then offering better economic incentives and tolerance for other religions. The animals came along later when the free ride and WE ARE THE WORLD policy failed. Back then the Visigoths were licking their balls and humping the Queens leg until Islam brought in the Dons to restore order.

Mencken observed that every Salvation Army liberation becomes a bawdy house.

 

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[Que]

While the whole world is focused on terrorism and potential attacks on the homeland, Obama is talking free community college, and Internet controls. He better get is pin head in the game.

He is pissed that all of the college students that elected and re-elected him no longer love him. He is moving on to the next group if political illiterates to buy affection from.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Have you father explain it to you.

Translation: I don't have a fucking clue.

I have said no such thing. All I have said is that those who choose to live here, do so under our law, the law of our land, and not come here with any intention of bringing alien exceptions to that law, or customs not compatible with our core values,

Since when do customs and values = laws?

Now vettey wants big gubbmint controlling values and customs.......so much limited gubbmint, so much conservatism. LMFAO.

like the desire to impose Sharia law in Muslim enclaves that may come into being, or create No Go Zones, as has happened in France.

OH, they are repealing 1A now? First I have heard about that.....care to share anything supporting your bullshit?

Didn't think so...continue hiding in iggy bunker.

 

[rbijon]

Muslims kill twelve in Paris over a cartoon depicting the "Prophet."

Je Suis Charlie!