George Bush is awesome!

Nope.

You were posting a reply on an author's hangout forum thread that neither you or I started, actually.

It was on a topic that cloudy and I had been discussing, and you were presenting your usual misinformational bullshit.

Every time you try to "baffle people" with your unique brand of unintelligence-eez, you're going to be called on it.
 
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For Liberals there are quite a few closed minds here

Whatever is going on in your lives ..I recommend some rest and leisure. For me this was a great exercise in Free Speech. It seems to me that you cant seperate your political opinions from your life opinions. I feel sorry for you and I will see you at the polls.


Blarneystoned
 
Laughing -

Last post from me for you, sweetie.

The fact you have no clue about ADD or ADHD or other medical diagnoses has nothing whatsoever to do with my stance as liberal/conservative.

But it is typical for you. Every time someone calls you on your lack of knowledge you quickly retreat behind a political shield.

Please vote whoever the fuck you want, that has no bearing on this discussion.

But you'd better check your facts before you attempt another debate over any issue on the AH.
 
Re: I think you misinterpreted that

Blarneystoned said:
It was you and Dr M that inferred that. I have great respect for the military. My whole family is military or medicine. Those who are not military fans may not realize where we have come.


Listen, you self-obsessed ass. I grew up in the military. My father was a test pilot. I spent my childhood on military bases. But I don't need to know anything at all about military history to know that you don't give a damn about dead Iraqi civilians - you've as much as said so. "They're going to get a global economy if we have to force it on them," or some such crap.

If you cared how many Iraqis have died in your name, you'd be demanding to know why we went into Iraq to begin with. And you'd be demanding to know why your president didn't have some understanding of the culture we were "liberating" before he sent in troops, and why he had no plan for what we'd do once we got there. What you would not be doing is calmly stating, when confronted with the numbers, "Those are impressive statistics - 800 to 60,000."

Why am I wasting my time with you tonight? Because I'd hate it if Pops and Svenska and Lou and RG and others from outside the U.S. began to think that you're the voice of America. There are more of us than there are of you. We did win the popular vote. Unfortunately, your view of the world is the one that's in power right now. And look where it's gotten us. You don't know why people aren't being more postiive about the future? Please. How blind can you be.

I'll have a pleasant night, and thank you. Iraq won't, and neither will our troops there. We've liberated 60,000 Iraqis and 800 soldiers, in the service of nothing but some White House egos even bigger than yours. Read a book. Figure it out.
 
Re: For Liberals there are quite a few closed minds here

Blarneystoned said:
Whatever is going on in your lives ..I recommend some rest and leisure. For me this was a great exercise in Free Speech. It seems to me that you cant seperate your political opinions from your life opinions. I feel sorry for you and I will see you at the polls.


Blarneystoned

Um...okay. Yep, just because I have a lot of friends who were on the edge of suicide, just because me and my friends all suffer from one form of psychosis or another, just because people who can laugh dismissively at other people's misfortune and death scare me, I'm a liberal commie whacko for pot legislation. Yup, right on. You saw right through me.

Okay, I know that you have a personal relationship with God and that you don't think death is a big deal, but for the vast majority of people it is. People for the most part fear death. You may be special and if so congratulations, but be aware that your nonchalant approach will frighten people. Your story of the suicidal girl does not sound right at all, does not sound anything like what really happens, in fact it sounds completely made up, but then I wasn't there so I don't know for sure.

This had nothing to do with polls. You seem to believe that everything we say is because of our liberalness. I'll admit that you're nonchalant attitude to other people's death is probably a good 50% of an explanation to your support of the Iraq War, but that does not really matter.

There is a place for laughter and I myself am fond of that bitter dark humor. But, laughing about other people's suicide attempts is not positive, it's really sick. It's the sort of dismissive condecending pat on the head that makes so many of these kids turn to suicide as an answer. Yes, cheering up spirits in a hospital is a good thing, but there is a time for genuine compassion as well. As for your christian medicine answer of the bad juujuu of negative energy...Well, I hope none of my friends or relatives ever have you as a doctor. Frankly from a doctor, I want sense, a little bit of compassion, and a nondescript future. Not somebody cracking a bad joke and saying if I have a little faith it'll all be better.

Anyway, if all roads end at "you commie pinkos" for you, well oh well. Cause in the flotsam of life, politics matter not, if you're too corrupted to know compassion. (It's not bad timing, it's wrong sense. Why on Earth did you post the dismissive here. If you cracked a bad joke to a girl fading on the edges of consciousness, that's pretty sick but understandable in the circumstances. To do it here? That's just sick.)

P.S. I'm not anti-free speech. I'm just saying show a little compassion for the suffering, dead, and dying. Remember ol' Ronnie. Well, some people have people that they feel like you do about him when they go. People who love other people and don't want to see them die. Anyway, that's all I really wanted to say as you seem to be switching the thread back to politics.

P.S.S. Go crazy compassionate people, whoo!
 
Re: Re: I think you misinterpreted that

shereads said:


Why am I wasting my time with you tonight? Because I'd hate it if Pops and Svenska and Lou and RG and others from outside the U.S. began to think that you're the voice of America. There are more of us than there are of you.


sher, you, perdilicious and others of your ilk are, in my opinion, the saving grace of the US.

Frankly, I'm proud of you lot; I'd wager that the rest of us 'others' wouldn't be thinking too differently.
 
It's now often conceded that GWB's policies are breeding terrorism. Here's a historical look at the phenomenon: US intervention causing terrorism, looking for instance at Reagan's acts against Libya.

Eland paper linking previous US interventions and terrorism.



http://www.cato.org/pubs/fpbriefs/fpb50.pdf.

{{note: can't get this link to work, but original doc is accessible through the html version below; url is at the top of the first page}}



html version


http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cach...ion+Overseas+Breed+Terrorism?+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8[/url]
 
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Re: Clarity sake

Blarneystoned said:
Omah has had it's problems too. Next time your up that way stop by Dungannon and take a taxi to Coal Island....McGirrs Pub is the only place to stay and the Murphy twins man the bar. They aren't a trusting lot, but if you buy a few rounds, they may talk to you. And yes it is an IRA town, but no they arent bad people. Most of their fight was over when Bobby Sands died or do you remember him. Judging with todays eyes is a misrepresentaion and a diservice to history. They have put their arms down in hopes of peace. Tank or light armoured vehicle seems the same to a boy with a rock. Thankfully they have stopped driving them around and have pulled most troops back home to England.

At any rate if you wander up the hill by the old church there is a graveyard. Coal Isand is small enough and there are only two churches. Here are the graves. Do not dishonor the dead, in that town they have meaning to you they will not. As much as I love that town it has its share of trouble, I prefer Gallway and the Aran Islands because they are free there.

Blarneystoned

I just had to post about this, if for no other reason than to show I stand side by side with Pops on this, and nearly every single other Brit, for that matter. Most notably those who have served in Northern Ireland, including close family and close friends.

Blarneystone,

Ok, first things first, Coalisland is all one word, not Coal Island. I think you were referring to this incident: 27 November 1973 Desmond Morgan (18) Catholic. Status: Irish Republican Army (IRA), Killed by: British Army (BA). Shot during attempted hijacking of vehicle, Coalisland, County Tyrone. If you care, this is a list of everyone killed during 1973: An Index of Deaths from the Conflict in Ireland (1973). As Pops said, you were fed a load of bull. Produce your own facts, nothing you have said stands up.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, right?

Oh no, of course the IRA weren't terrorists. They didn't bomb the mainly civilian targets in Omagh , or Warrington or Hyde Park or Canary Warf (and many other parts of London) or Guildford or Birmingham or Manchester or Brighton or Aldershot or countless numbers in Belfast and all over Northern Ireland, including the massacre at Enniskillen on Remembrance Day.

They were fighting a just war, were they? Against the evil British who wanted no more than to protect her own people and even those who wanted to break away from her?

You might find this an interesting piece: The Brighton Bomb: No Impact? Margaret Thatcher was, and probably still is, the political figure most hated by the IRA. She's also the most right-wing PM we've ever had and was Ronald Reagan's political soulmate. What do you think about her? Do you wish the Brighton Bomb had succeeded in assassinating her?

Do you know one thing that makes my blood boil? We, the British, have lived under the threat of terrorism for years and it isn't until the USA gets attacked that the USA realises there is a problem of international terrorism. Where did the IRA get most of their funding from?

You come across as hero worshipping the IRA. That makes me sad.

I hate to say all of that, really I do, especially on today, of all days (The day after the 60th Anniversary of D-Day, btw), a day when we, the Allies of WWII, should feel more united than ever. But, it is people like you who do nothing but damage to the name of your good country. I'm just glad I know different. But, realise this, most people don't. Most people do, in fact, see people like you as the voice of the USA - probably because you shout the loudest and are incredibly arrogant in your refusal to show any ounce of compassion for anyone who is not a citizen of the good old US of A.

Then again, you don't really care, do you?

Lou

P.S. Pops, it's bleedin' marvellous to see you! What was that about twats? ;) :kiss: :rose:
 
Re: Re: Clarity sake

Tatelou said:
I just had to post about this, if for no other reason than to show I stand side by side with Pops on this, and nearly every single other Brit, for that matter. Most notably those who have served in Northern Ireland, including close family and close friends.

Blarneystone,

Ok, first things first, Coalisland is all one word, not Coal Island. I think you were referring to this incident: 27 November 1973 Desmond Morgan (18) Catholic. Status: Irish Republican Army (IRA), Killed by: British Army (BA). Shot during attempted hijacking of vehicle, Coalisland, County Tyrone. If you care, this is a list of everyone killed during 1973: An Index of Deaths from the Conflict in Ireland (1973). As Pops said, you were fed a load of bull. Produce your own facts, nothing you have said stands up.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, right?

Oh no, of course the IRA weren't terrorists. They didn't bomb the mainly civilian targets in Omagh , or Warrington or Hyde Park or Canary Warf (and many other parts of London) or Guildford or Birmingham or Manchester or Brighton or Aldershot or countless numbers in Belfast and all over Northern Ireland, including the massacre at Enniskillen on Remembrance Day.

They were fighting a just war, were they? Against the evil British who wanted no more than to protect her own people and even those who wanted to break away from her?

You might find this an interesting piece: The Brighton Bomb: No Impact? Margaret Thatcher was, and probably still is, the political figure most hated by the IRA. She's also the most right-wing PM we've ever had and was Ronald Reagan's political soulmate. What do you think about her? Do you wish the Brighton Bomb had succeeded in assassinating her?

Do you know one thing that makes my blood boil? We, the British, have lived under the threat of terrorism for years and it isn't until the USA gets attacked that the USA realises there is a problem of international terrorism. Where did the IRA get most of their funding from?

You come across as hero worshipping the IRA. That makes me sad.

I hate to say all of that, really I do, especially on today, of all days (The day after the 60th Anniversary of D-Day, btw), a day when we, the Allies of WWII, should feel more united than ever. But, it is people like you who do nothing but damage to the name of your good country. I'm just glad I know different. But, realise this, most people don't. Most people do, in fact, see people like you as the voice of the USA - probably because you shout the loudest and are incredibly arrogant in your refusal to show any ounce of compassion for anyone who is not a citizen of the good old US of A.

Then again, you don't really care, do you?

Lou

P.S. Pops, it's bleedin' marvellous to see you! What was that about twats? ;) :kiss: :rose:

I've said it before, but I must ask one more time: Can't some of you other countries persuade a few of your extremist lunatics to post at Lit? Surely you have some. It's not fair that only Americans have to defend ourselves from being branded as one vast land of Amicublarney, or Blarnicus.

Please, Canada and Sweden and Britain and Germany and New Zealand and Portugal and New Guinea and Mexico and Austria and Switzerland (well, okay, not Switzerland): don't you have some deranged skinheads you want to share with us?
 
Pure said:
It's now often conceded that GWB's policies are breeding terrorism. Here's a historical look at the phenomenon: US intervention causing terrorism, looking for instance at Reagan's acts against Libya.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Obvioiusly, the most essential element of the War on Terror is terrorists.
 
Re: Re: Re: Clarity sake

shereads said:
I've said it before, but I must ask one more time: Can't some of you other countries persuade a few of your extremist lunatics to post at Lit? Surely you have some. It's not fair that only Americans have to defend ourselves from being branded as one vast land of Amicublarney, or Blarnicus.

Please, Canada and Sweden and Britain and Germany and New Zealand and Portugal and New Guinea and Mexico and Austria and Switzerland (well, okay, not Switzerland): don't you have some deranged skinheads you want to share with us?

'Ello love, you wanted someone deranged from Britain. Look no further. ;)

I think we have a knack of keeping our "odd" ones in check, and there's fewer of us.

Shocky - deranged skinhead wannabe.

P.S. I might get controversial, if I decide to stick around long enough.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Clarity sake

Shock Chick said:
'Ello love, you wanted someone deranged from Britain. Look no further. ;)

I think we have a knack of keeping our "odd" ones in check, and there's fewer of us.

Shocky - deranged skinhead wannabe.

P.S. I might get controversial, if I decide to stick around long enough.

Thank heaven. I was beginning to think all the loons had moved to the USA. Introduce yourself to Amicus and Blarneystone.

:D

You crazy Brits! You're a sick, twisted bunch and soon I'll have evidence, courtesy of Shock Chick.
 
You say that like it's a bad thing. [It=creating terrorists]

Obvioiusly, the most essential element of the War on Terror is terrorists.


Next you'll be telling us that dedicated persons waging the 'war on drugs' are involved in selling them.

And that the border patrol's function in Arizona, is to admit illegal aliens.

How do you live with that degree of nihilism? Have you talked to Jesus lately?

:rose:
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Clarity sake

shereads said:
Thank heaven. I was beginning to think all the loons had moved to the USA. Introduce yourself to Amicus and Blarneystone.

:D

You crazy Brits! You're a sick, twisted bunch and soon I'll have evidence, courtesy of Shock Chick.

Yeah, too many bloody lefties around these parts. Lazy bums, they should get themselves off social and into work.

It can't be that hard, can it?

I earn plenty and all I do is walk the streets.

Shocky :p
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Clarity sake

Shock Chick said:
Yeah, too many bloody lefties around these parts. Lazy bums, they should get themselves off social and into work.

It can't be that hard, can it?

I earn plenty and all I do is walk the streets.

Shocky :p

'Oo's on social, then.....eh?
 
Re: Re: My Ireland...in response to Pirate

pop_54 said:
For one simple fact... no British soldier in Northern Ireland has or had access to 80 rounds... One clip of 12 in the gun... and one spare clip on the belt, was about the limit I believe... any more had to be signed for and drawn from the quartermaster... Another fact is that only 'rubber' bullets were ever used against stone throwers... horrid things mind you baton rounds... caused a lot of nasty injuries, but not often death... Yet another fact, any British soldier behaving like that would now be serving life in prison... we are about the only country that lock up soldiers for excessive force, one has just recently been released after a long sentence for firing his gun at a car that was trying to run him down in Northern Ireland... it appears he should have tried to jump out of the way instead of opening fire on the vehicle...
Pops, this has absolutely nothing to do at all with IRA or anything else being discussed here, but I have to correct you on one not-so-little thing.

On January 30, 1972, soldiers from the British Army's 1st Parachute Regiment opened fire on unarmed and peaceful civilian demonstrators in the Bogside, Derry, Ireland, near the Rossville flats, killing 13 and wounding a number of others. They were promped by a relatively small number of stone-throwers that had detached itself from the civilian demonstration. Several soldiers have admitted to have fired real ammo (obviously), and 2 or 3 times the number of rounds they had officially been given. None of the soldiers involved were ever admonished in any way. In fact, they were decorated by the Queen for their acts on the day.
 
Pure said:
Next you'll be telling us that dedicated persons waging the 'war on drugs' are involved in selling them.

Don't be silly. We're winning the War on Drugs. It's just taking several decades...Not that the War on Terror will take that long. It can't, can it? Because that would mean our civil liberties are permanently suspended and that the Executive Branch has its special war powers for an indefinite period of time...

:(

How do you live with that degree of nihilism? Have you talked to Jesus lately?

No, but I just started reading Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell them. God talks to Al Franken, and I read Al Franken, so in a sense I'm reading God's word.

("Something is seriously wrong with that lying bitch, Ann Coulter. Put that in your book." ~ God to Al Franken.)
 
Re: Re: Re: My Ireland...in response to Pirate

Lauren Hynde said:
Pops, this has absolutely nothing to do at all with IRA or anything else being discussed here, but I have to correct you on one not-so-little thing.

On January 30, 1972, soldiers from the British Army's 1st Parachute Regiment opened fire on unarmed and peaceful civilian demonstrators in the Bogside, Derry, Ireland, near the Rossville flats, killing 13 and wounding a number of others. They were promped by a relatively small number of stone-throwers that had detached itself from the civilian demonstration. Several soldiers have admitted to have fired real ammo (obviously), and 2 or 3 times the number of rounds they had officially been given. None of the soldiers involved were ever admonished in any way. In fact, they were decorated by the Queen for their acts on the day.

Yes, that was Bloody Sunday and very recently a public enquiry was held and a subsequent public apology made.

This one anomally is brought up every single time the troubles in Northern Ireland are discussed. Yes, what happened was wrong, no question. But, there have been many hundreds of deaths, on both sides, but mostly protestants, since the IRA began their "campaign".

Thankfully, things are now getting better, and any loss of life throughout the whole time is deeply regrettable.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: My Ireland...in response to Pirate

Shock Chick said:
This one anomally is brought up every single time the troubles in Northern Ireland are discussed.
Just correcting Pops usage of the word 'never'. Like I said, not trying to make any point about any of the issues at hand. ;)
 
Thanks

Shereads and Lucifer_Carroll:

Thanks for taking the the time and care to respond to Mighty Zor.

Ronald Reagan has died, but our love affair with the Texas cowboy, Indian wars, John Wayne, the gun, and righteous violence continues....with George W. Bush the last to strap on the gun and go looking for a showdown....against the wrong enemy.

We had had 25,000 American citizens die since the early 1980s in gang violence in our cities and many more than the 3,000 in 9/11 from our own gun violence and from drunk driving and preventable hospital infections, etc. (Drive carefully without drinking and with enough sleep: Drunk, tired, overly-agggressive and inexperienced drivers pose much more of a threat to us in the United States than terrorists.)

What could be done if we spent the $120 billion for the Iraq War on fighting against these forms of violence and destruction within the United States? We could 'fight' against such threats to our security and life with care and compassion and with wise government policies that support education and health care and the creation of more working class jobs.

Mighty Zor: Use your strength--your desire to be mighty--not in a war trumpeted up by lies but in serving others in truly peaceful means....through education, health care, social work, etc.
 
Re: Re: Heimlich

Lucifer_Carroll said:
EDITED TO ADD: Also as a doctor, I'm sure you realize that most any pill taken an entire bottle at a time will do serious damage to you and if swallowed will require a stomach pump. [/B]

There are many forms of pills that will not seriously harm us if taken in excess, and some that require vast amounts to do anything but give us a headache. Whenever I get a new medication of any sort I ask my doctor what kind of side-effect they do when over-dosed on, he gives me the honest answer. One that I am on right now, Topomax, taken in excess will do nothing but make you dizzy and give you a headache. Surprisingly, it is a nerve pill, you'd think that one would hurt ya eh?

Oh, and what Blarney said about recent medications for bi-polar. Do NOT try Wellbutrin.. heh.. I'm not sure about its side-effects for everybody, but from my personal experience, it had a rather unnerving effect. Complete personality reversal. I was everything I normally wasn't, and had no control of myself at all. In other words, I was psychotic and rather dangerous, for a period of 4 weeks. That was with the combination of Wellbutrin and Effexor, for all of those with depression.
 
Re: Re: Clarity sake

Tatelou said:


Lou

P.S. Pops, it's bleedin' marvellous to see you! What was that about twats? ;) :kiss: :rose:

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