Harvey

[MonaLittle]

I heard a few hours ago from a friend in Katy who's fine, but has spotty coverage.

Yes, I finally heard from her. Thank you, friend.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

More water fell on Texas in one day than my town gets in a year.

Very few places in the world can cope with 24 inches of rain in a day.

Even worse, I lived in the Westheimer district and streets would flood with any rainfall more than a sprinkle...



Houston has a problem with one inch in a day.

 

[butters]

oh my - that young guy who had walked 12 miles through the storm to safety, had lost everything, had had no contact with his parents and didn't even know where his dad might be, looked in total shock but the tv crew managed to get him and his dad in contact, then onto a coach to meet him. *tears*

can't even begin to imagine. he was so shook up and didn't know what he was going to do, yet, even in that state, when the tv guy said there were crews there to help him he was thinking they were for people in greater need than himself and was praising the help crews.

 

[butters]

Yes, I finally heard from her. Thank you, friend.

you must be so relieved

 

[butters]

buffalo bayou(sp?) expected to reach 73 feet, and homes already inundated may be a further 5' underwater after today

 

[butters]

fala? how're you doing?

 

[RobDownSouth]

buffalo bayou(sp?) expected to reach 73 feet, and homes already inundated may be a further 5' underwater after today

Buffalo Bayou is the (relatively) small catch basin for Downtown Houston.
The two giant reservoirs are the Addicks (Northwest) and Barker (West). They are full to capacity now. Addicks in particular cannot take the pressure, it was damaged in the Tax Day Flood of 2017.

Government made the decision to open both dams' spillways beginning at midnight last night. The spillways run down to the Houston shipping channel (and eventually into the Gulf of Mexico), but they are swamped now too with Buffalo Bayou runoff.

What this means is that Downtown Houston will see the already high water level rise to a level somewhere between 4 and 5 feet higher by midnight tonight. Subdivisions south of the Addicks reservoir will definitely flood (No zoning in Houston, so they built home right up to the edge of the reservoir, "pretty lake front view".)

They are evacuating entire subdivisions expected to be flooded now. Inner half have mandatory evacuation orders, Outer half have "recommended" evac orders.

Right now we're catching a bit of a breather, no rain.

I live about a few miles north of the Addicks reservoir, but the elevation is higher so the drainage always goes southbound.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Yes, I finally heard from her. Thank you, friend.

That's great news! You must have been beside yourself.




I wonder why the decrepency is so high between counties in the federal list and state list for emergency declarations.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Houston has a problem with one inch in a day.

Meanwhile, back in the reality-based world, far from the feverswamp that is the addled mind of AJ, the local drainage in Houston is unparalleled. They can handle 4 to 5 inches of rain in 24 hours easily.

 

[RobDownSouth]

"Pro$perity Go$pel" preacher Joel O$teen's 16,000 seat megachurch has flooded.

 

[sr71plt]

So, is it too soon to wonder how the Texas Republican congressional contingent is going to vote on disaster relief to Texas? Ted Crux and Republican friends voted against relief for New Jersey in 2015 for Hurricane Sandy. Will they stick to their principles when it comes to their own state? We'll have to watch to see how that happens.

Federal disaster relief on a natural disaster like this is a socialist program. I trust all those decrying socialism on the board will favor just letting the free market handle it all.

 

[adrina]

Yes, I finally heard from her. Thank you, friend.

Thank goodness.

"Pro$perity Go$pel" preacher Joel O$teen's 16,000 seat megachurch has flooded.

Heh, he'll just tell his sheep that Gaw-hawd wanted a newer grander and bigger 'house' so they need to pony up and make it happen.

 

[sr71plt]

Heh, he'll just tell his sheep that Gaw-hawd wanted a newer grander and bigger 'house' so they need to pony up and make it happen.

It's scary, but he will--and they will.

 

[neci]

"Pro$perity Go$pel" preacher Joel O$teen's 16,000 seat megachurch has flooded.

flooded with bad press for shutting its doors on people who are actually flooding?

 

[doowdniw]

So, is it too soon to wonder how the Texas Republican congressional contingent is going to vote on disaster relief to Texas? Ted Crux and Republican friends voted against relief for New Jersey in 2015 for Hurricane Sandy. Will they stick to their principles when it comes to their own state? We'll have to watch to see how that happens.

They know it's going to be an issue. They are already taking great pains to defend their Sandy votes. The main point that they made this morning was that some of the Sandy money was earmarked for Alaska. It's hard to teach empathy. Either one has it or not.

 

[MonaLittle]

Thank goodness.

She and her family were evacuated by the Coast Guard this morning. It looks like they'll lose everything. My heart is so heavy for everyone effected by this disaster. It's so surreal.

 

[neci]

She and her family were evacuated by the Coast Guard this morning. It looks like they'll lose everything. My heart is so heavy for everyone effected by this disaster. It's so surreal.

i am so sorry for her loss. i hope they are safe and dry now.

 

[adrina]

She and her family were evacuated by the Coast Guard this morning. It looks like they'll lose everything. My heart is so heavy for everyone effected by this disaster. It's so surreal.

I am so sorry for her and her family. That is so sad and insane.

I'd like to add something more but it's probably just going to come off smarmy and trite... so instead I'll just hope for strength for them.

 

[oggbashan]

The BBC News tonight said that some parts of Texas have had one metre [39 inches] of rainfall from Harvey with another four hundred millimetres [16 inches] yet to come.

That sounds almost unimaginable. Locally we worry if we get 25 millimetres [an inch] in 24 hours.

 

[Wrong Element]

So, is it too soon to wonder how the Texas Republican congressional contingent is going to vote on disaster relief to Texas? Ted Crux and Republican friends voted against relief for New Jersey in 2015 for Hurricane Sandy. Will they stick to their principles when it comes to their own state? We'll have to watch to see how that happens.

Federal disaster relief on a natural disaster like this is a socialist program. I trust all those decrying socialism on the board will favor just letting the free market handle it all.

Yes, and they were also willing to let the Midwestern auto industry die in 2008-09. But who really wants to put themselves on the same moral level as a Texas Republican politician? Their people deserve the help.

However, a decent question to ask is whether it's fair for the other 48 states to constantly bail out two hurricane-prone states, Texas and Florida, which have chosen to not have a state income tax. Texas's famously low taxes go along with famously poor government services.

 

[jaF0]

The BBC News tonight said that some parts of Texas have had one metre [39 inches] of rainfall from Harvey with another four hundred millimetres [16 inches] yet to come.

That sounds almost unimaginable. Locally we worry if we get 25 millimetres [an inch] in 24 hours.

One thing to note is that this is very low country, around 50 or less above sea level, though some areas are closer to 100 and much of it was swampland up into Louisiana. Yeas, it's far more rain that they usually get, but we have to remember what the area was before people urbanized it.

 

[neci]

just read a report of a hydrogen sulfide cloud in la porte, tx. have not been able to confirm this anywhere yet.

 

[neci]

Southbound Hartman Bridge Closed due to shelter in place in LaPorte for a chemical leak. We will open the lanes once the all clear is received from the City of LaPorte. 8/28 5pm

http://baytown.org/Home/Components/News/News/470/18?backlist=%2f

 

[thør]

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[thør]

just read a report of a hydrogen sulfide cloud in la porte, tx. have not been able to confirm this anywhere yet.

That shit will kill ya.