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They've opened the dam at Lake Conroe and are dumping 80,000 cubic feet per second roughly 35 million gallons a minute into the San Jacinto river and a creeks and streams are cresting all over.

The worst is yet to come.
 
Back over the Gulf which could allow for possible regeneration.
 
However, a decent question to ask is whether it's fair for the other 48 states to constantly bail out two hurricane-prone states, Texas and Florida, which have chosen to not have a state income tax. Texas's famously low taxes go along with famously poor government services.
Let's take a constitutional strict-construction view. Did any of the water falling on Corpus Christi, Houston, and surrounding Texas areas cross a state line? If it's not interstate commerce, it's not a federal issue. Let sloppy states pay for their own local fuckups. No federal cash for Texas!

Except to save the armadillos. Can't lose any more of-em. Texas would starve.
 
However all navigable waterways are under Federal control. Railroads too I believe. And both of those states have heavy military and other Federal presence.

I believe however that no residential structures should be built in certain areas and that if existing ones are destroyed, they should not be rebuilt.
 
However all navigable waterways are under Federal control. Railroads too I believe. And both of those states have heavy military and other Federal presence.
It was a specious argument -- just what I'd expect from a baghead. BTW I think railroads are mostly state-regulated. Their in-state operations certainly are.

No, I don't think states should be abandoned. But we Californians are paying most of the cost of the Oroville Dam repair ourselves; FEMA isn't much help. Texans and Floridians can impose income taxes to pay their own bills rather than waiting for California and the rest of the nation to subsidize the leeches.

I believe however that no residential structures should be built in certain areas and that if existing ones are destroyed, they should not be rebuilt.
Some disaster programs pay to rebuild once or twice on a site, but not again. Most insurers won't write coverage for disaster-prone areas. Forest-fire zones near me are uninsurable now; we were lucky to renew. Yeah, two floods and you're OUT! That's how it worked with the Russian River (north of San Francisco) floods in the early 1990s.
 
It was a specious argument -- just what I'd expect from a baghead. BTW I think railroads are mostly state-regulated. Their in-state operations certainly are.

No, I don't think states should be abandoned. But we Californians are paying most of the cost of the Oroville Dam repair ourselves; FEMA isn't much help. Texans and Floridians can impose income taxes to pay their own bills rather than waiting for California and the rest of the nation to subsidize the leeches.

Some disaster programs pay to rebuild once or twice on a site, but not again. Most insurers won't write coverage for disaster-prone areas. Forest-fire zones near me are uninsurable now; we were lucky to renew. Yeah, two floods and you're OUT! That's how it worked with the Russian River (north of San Francisco) floods in the early 1990s.

Every state uses a different combination of property taxes, sales taxes and income taxes to raise money for state needs. Rest assured that we pay taxes in Texas for meeting our own needs just as you do in California.
 
Y'all know you can kiss our asses.

We help everyone anytime they need it. Even if they are ASSHOLES like you.

The people of Texas are generous...always have been.

Go away little midget minded people.
 
in katrina is was #superdome.

in houston it will be #lakewood #thesummit #nosteen
 
in katrina is was #superdome.

in houston it will be #lakewood #thesummit #nosteen

Interesting that Houston area Mosques were open and taking in people.

That will probably get very little air time.
 
Y'all know you can kiss our asses.

We help everyone anytime they need it. Even if they are ASSHOLES like you.

The people of Texas are generous...always have been.

Go away little midget minded people.

Why are they shooting at the Cajun Navy?
 
Why are they shooting at the Cajun Navy?
Houston folks thought they were looters and were "defendin' their ground", as God, the 2nd Amendment, and the NRA demanded.

It was one isolated incident in a redneck area of town, from what I have heard. I could be wrong
(hell, I took Joel O$teen at his word when he said his megachurch was flooded, as it turns out, he's got it better than just about everyone else downtown due to superior drainage on the property (the "church" used to be the Houston Summit basketball arena.)
 
Houston folks thought they were looters and were "defendin' their ground", as God, the 2nd Amendment, and the NRA demanded.

It was one isolated incident in a redneck area of town, from what I have heard. I could be wrong
(hell, I took Joel O$teen at his word when he said his megachurch was flooded, as it turns out, he's got it better than just about everyone else downtown due to superior drainage on the property (the "church" used to be the Houston Summit basketball arena.)

I'm glad it was only one incident. That's no way to treat people trying to save you.

Olsteen got savaged on Twitter for not opening his doors. What a total scumbag he is.
 
I'm glad it was only one incident. That's no way to treat people trying to save you.

Olsteen got savaged on Twitter for not opening his doors. What a total scumbag he is.

Evidently boaters have been roaming neighborhoods at twilight jacking the expensive rims off of pickemup trucks. They made quite a few arrests last night.

Also Joel O$teen caved into public pressure and opened his (completely dry) church to refugees this morning.
 
Evidently boaters have been roaming neighborhoods at twilight jacking the expensive rims off of pickemup trucks. They made quite a few arrests last night.

Also Joel O$teen caved into public pressure and opened his (completely dry) church to refugees this morning.

Joel also wants you to send all your hard earned money to Samaritan's Purse, so Franklin Graham can take home another pay check of half a million from the charity. you know. in the name of helping his neighbors.
 
Where's Creflo 'buy me a plane' Dollar in all this. I wouldn't think he'd miss out on an opportunity to fleece, errr, help the sheep.
 
Interesting that Houston area Mosques were open and taking in people.

That will probably get very little air time.

the mosques here are already well underway collecting items for distribution. the islamic association nearest me has helped out through all the last major gulf coast disasters, along with being active during tornado season. They are one of the organizations i trust to provide direct relief. what you give is given, not skimmed off the top to pay some CEO.
 
the mosques here are already well underway collecting items for distribution. the islamic association nearest me has helped out through all the last major gulf coast disasters, along with being active during tornado season. They are one of the organizations i trust to provide direct relief. what you give is given, not skimmed off the top to pay some CEO.

It was fascinating that as soon as the hurricane hit, virtually all the mosques here began pitching in and helping out without fanfare.

Then the Joel O$teen crap hit the fan, and the loony tunes right started sputtering "but...but...teh MOSQUES!". Lotsa roaring silence when the loonies found out the mosques had been working non-stop since Friday.
 
Interesting that Houston area Mosques were open and taking in people.

That will probably get very little air time.


My impression of Houston is that Arabs and Muslims are pretty well entrenched in the community at this point. Years of dealing with oil tycoons and cheering for Hakeem Olajuwon have made them part of the fabric of life.


At least the storm seems to finally be on the move. The center of the storm is also east of Houston now (actually not far from Galveston) and moving northeast, which may mean some relief soon for the western parts of the metro area like Katy.
 
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My impression of Houston is that Arabs and Muslims are pretty well entrenched in the community at this point. Years of dealing with oil tycoons and cheering for Hakeem Olajuwon have made them part of the fabric of life.

It was more of the oil boom. We used to have daily flights Houston-Nigeria, and we had a lot of "African Africans" here (they had 'African shopping centers' with nothing but African-owned shops). These newcomers were disproportionately Muslim, and quite a few mosques opened up.
 
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