Hey, gun nuts!

[Peregrinator]

Yes.

I don't get it. I shot my buddy's Kimber a while ago and it just, you know, fired every time I pulled the trigger. Same as atmas' Glock. What's the big deal?

 

[Fala]

We're not hunters, however, we've got some rocking guns around here.

We're law abiding citizens, so what's the worry.

*shrug*

 

[koalabear]

I don't get it. I shot my buddy's Kimber a while ago and it just, you know, fired every time I pulled the trigger. Same as atmas' Glock. What's the big deal?

It's like an alien abduction, except you would enjoy the cavity probe.

 

[Peregrinator]

It's like an alien abduction, except you would enjoy the cavity probe.

You need a different hobby.

 

[koalabear]

You need a different hobby.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't get it. I shot my buddy's Kimber a while ago and it just, you know, fired every time I pulled the trigger. Same as atmas' Glock. What's the big deal?

Nah bro....Kimber sucks a compared to the sig imo, always fucking up.

That's the reason I always stuck to glock. Good ammo, dirty reload ball ammo, +P JHP's, w/e it will fire it....not the kimber, no sir.

Sig....just as mean as a glock, piss on it throw it in a sand box and drag it through a pond and feed it whatever ammo you have and it will fire it. It has a heavier, tighter, smoother trigger and over all action than the kimber + it has tritium night sights, those features biggie. Best part it's only a couple hundred more than the 700 kimber, not some 3000 piece of jewelry (not that there is ANYTHING wrong with them, just not my style).

It's deff more of an all around combat/carry pistol...not a safe queen, shoot's just as straight as my glock and doesn't hurt my hand either thanks to the beaver tail so it's super comfy. I also notice I index/grip the 1911 more consistently than the glock with less effort, I think this too is due to the full beaver tail.

I will have to get used to the thumb safety...not really a fan of that buu shit, but I'm sure developing the skill to manipulate it proficiently will come fairly quickly.

You need a different hobby.

Lifestyle....not hobby...

 

[Disgustipated]

Bulletz & Booze

 

[Deleted member 1405174]

Love my SD9.

 

[Peregrinator]

I woke up this morning to a card that said, basically, "Happy birthday, buy yourself a shotgun."

So now I need suggestions for a mid-range, all around 12-ga that will shoot trap, be a reasonable choice for home defense, and hunt if I decide to start hunting with it. Anyone got a favorite?

 

[koalabear]

I woke up this morning to an e-mail that said, On FedEx vehicle for delivery
Scheduled for delivery next business day

So shotguns suck.

 

[richard_daily]

I woke up this morning to a card that said, basically, "Happy birthday, buy yourself a shotgun."

So now I need suggestions for a mid-range, all around 12-ga that will shoot trap, be a reasonable choice for home defense, and hunt if I decide to start hunting with it. Anyone got a favorite?

What are you looking to spend?

 

[Peregrinator]

What are you looking to spend?

I dunno, what's the range? I don't need a family heirloom, but I'd like something a little classy and quality.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I woke up this morning to a card that said, basically, "Happy birthday, buy yourself a shotgun."

So now I need suggestions for a mid-range, all around 12-ga that will shoot trap, be a reasonable choice for home defense, and hunt if I decide to start hunting with it. Anyone got a favorite?

How much does the birthday boy get to blow on his new toy this year?

I wouldn't suggest a break action for anything other than "Oh it's so pretty/how cool" collectors item.

Leaves you with pump action and semi auto.

Pump on a budget and or a tough as nails ultra reliable home def/tac shot gun? Mossberg 500 hands down...it's the M4 of shot guns, you can modify for various set ups, accessorize/project that thing forever and ever. You can get them for around 250- 300 bucks pretty much anywhere guns are sold and they are a great fighting shotty. I carried one in combat, I have one by the bed...it's a beast.

For more of a sport/hunting/pretty/comfy shotty my favorite (and 2nd on my gun wish list) is the Remington 879 SPS sure shot.
http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/51952.jpg

They run 500-550 and shoot like a dream (buddy has one and i'm totally sold on it)...you could hunt or shoot clay all day with it and I won't say you won't feel it but it won't be anything like the beating the mossberg dishes out.

Semi auto...****!!!!

I don't own any semi auto shot guns but I do want the benelli M4. it's like 1800 bucks it is widely regarded as the end all be all and is THE fastest semi auto shot gun made, the thing is absalutely bad ass.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/benelli.jpg
Fucking bad ass ^^^

However I have herd/read Remington and Saiga both make fine products and have good customer service as well.

Hope this helps you get started, good luck and congratulations/happy birthday.

 

[koalabear]

How much does the birthday boy get to blow on his new toy this year?

I wouldn't suggest a break action for anything other than "Oh it's so pretty/how cool" collectors item.

Leaves you with pump action and semi auto.

Pump on a budget and or a tough as nails ultra reliable home def/tac shot gun? Mossberg 500 hands down...it's the M4 of shot guns, you can modify for various set ups, accessorize/project that thing forever and ever. You can get them for around 250- 300 bucks pretty much anywhere guns are sold and they are a great fighting shotty. I carried one in combat, I have one by the bed...it's a beast.

For more of a sport/hunting/pretty/comfy shotty my favorite (and 2nd on my gun wish list) is the Remington 879 SPS sure shot.

They run 500-550 and shoot like a dream (buddy has one and i'm totally sold on it)...you could hunt or shoot clay all day with it and I won't say you won't feel it but it won't be anything like the beating the mossberg dishes out.

Semi auto...****!!!!

I don't own any semi auto shot guns but I do want the benelli M4. it's like 1800 bucks it is widely regarded as the end all be all and is THE fastest semi auto shot gun made, the thing is absalutely bad ass.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/benelli.jpg
Fucking bad ass ^^^

However I have herd/read Remington and Saiga both make fine products and have good customer service as well.

Hope this helps you get started, good luck and congratulations/happy birthday.

I just sold mine, bought another for $400.00 and sold it too.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I woke up this morning to a card that said, basically, "Happy birthday, buy yourself a shotgun."

So now I need suggestions for a mid-range, all around 12-ga that will shoot trap, be a reasonable choice for home defense, and hunt if I decide to start hunting with it. Anyone got a favorite?

Trap, home defense and hunting are three different things with different requirements in a shotgun. Trap is usually a long barreled gun with break action. Home defense is usually shorter barreled with pump action. A gun for hunting would be best with a mid-length barrel and bolt action.

If I could have any shotgun, I'd get this: http://www.mossberg.com/product/sho...-special-purpose-special-purpose-9-shot/50645


But you'd never shoot trap with it. It would be a good compromise between home defense and hunting.

 

[richard_daily]

How much does the birthday boy get to blow on his new toy this year?

I wouldn't suggest a break action for anything other than "Oh it's so pretty/how cool" collectors item.

Leaves you with pump action and semi auto.

Pump on a budget and or a tough as nails ultra reliable home def/tac shot gun? Mossberg 500 hands down...it's the M4 of shot guns, you can modify for various set ups, accessorize/project that thing forever and ever. You can get them for around 250- 300 bucks pretty much anywhere guns are sold and they are a great fighting shotty. I carried one in combat, I have one by the bed...it's a beast.

For more of a sport/hunting/pretty/comfy shotty my favorite (and 2nd on my gun wish list) is the Remington 879 SPS sure shot.
http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/51952.jpg

They run 500-550 and shoot like a dream (buddy has one and i'm totally sold on it)...you could hunt or shoot clay all day with it and I won't say you won't feel it but it won't be anything like the beating the mossberg dishes out.

Semi auto...****!!!!

I don't own any semi auto shot guns but I do want the benelli M4. it's like 1800 bucks it is widely regarded as the end all be all and is THE fastest semi auto shot gun made, the thing is absalutely bad ass.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/benelli.jpg
Fucking bad ass ^^^

However I have herd/read Remington and Saiga both make fine products and have good customer service as well.

Hope this helps you get started, good luck and congratulations/happy birthday.

Mossberg 500 was going to be my entry-level suggestion.

Saiga's are great, but expect to have to put a LOT of work into converting it, and they're very finicky about what they'll feed well.

IF you've got the money, and can find one, I'd recommend a VEPR12. They're kind of hard to find though.

Remington 800s are great for more of a mid-range pump option. The amount of aftermarket parts available is fantastic.

Or, you can always get a SPAS12, but make sure you get a later version with the button safety... Kind of heavy/unwieldy, but awesome at the same time.

I've never shot a Banelli, but I've always wanted to.

Personally, I'd go with the Saiga, but only if you have a lot of extra time on your hands to fiddle with it. For the price of a decent 800, you can have a really nice semi-auto set-up. They'll eat up your time, and they can eat up the more expensive shells... If you can, get it set-up to cycle cheap stuff, asap, because you'll be wanting to shoot it a lot.

 

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[Peregrinator]

How much does the birthday boy get to blow on his new toy this year?

I wouldn't suggest a break action for anything other than "Oh it's so pretty/how cool" collectors item.

Leaves you with pump action and semi auto.

Pump on a budget and or a tough as nails ultra reliable home def/tac shot gun? Mossberg 500 hands down...it's the M4 of shot guns, you can modify for various set ups, accessorize/project that thing forever and ever. You can get them for around 250- 300 bucks pretty much anywhere guns are sold and they are a great fighting shotty. I carried one in combat, I have one by the bed...it's a beast.

For more of a sport/hunting/pretty/comfy shotty my favorite (and 2nd on my gun wish list) is the Remington 879 SPS sure shot.
http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/51952.jpg

They run 500-550 and shoot like a dream (buddy has one and i'm totally sold on it)...you could hunt or shoot clay all day with it and I won't say you won't feel it but it won't be anything like the beating the mossberg dishes out.

Semi auto...****!!!!

I don't own any semi auto shot guns but I do want the benelli M4. it's like 1800 bucks it is widely regarded as the end all be all and is THE fastest semi auto shot gun made, the thing is absalutely bad ass.
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/benelli.jpg
Fucking bad ass ^^^

However I have herd/read Remington and Saiga both make fine products and have good customer service as well.

Hope this helps you get started, good luck and congratulations/happy birthday.

That's great info, thanks! I trained on the Mossberg in the Guard, and that was my first thought since I know it.

So basically, it's either that or similar or I spend significantly more on something much fancier?

 

[JohnnySavage]

9 shot!!!!!


I'm a Model 1100 type of guy.

When Pheasant hunting, the first shot is because you were startled. The next three shots are just to scare the hell out of the bird. That leaves a few for the kill shot.

 

[koalabear]

For home defense you want dependable, meaning pump.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's great info, thanks! I trained on the Mossberg in the Guard, and that was my first thought since I know it.

So basically, it's either that or similar or I spend significantly more on something much fancier?

NP...yea familiarity has it's perks.

No...those are just the ones I would suggest b/c I tried them and liked them.

There are other ones you can get in the same price range (250-500) that are all of all sorts of designs. And if you stick with a good reputable name brand it's kinda hard to go wrong imo. Remington, Mossberg, Seaiga, Browning are all good manufactures of very reasonably priced shot guns.

What I would do if i were you is check out a site like Cheaper than dirt...do some E window shopping..pick out a few think you might like, then google/youtube the various models and check out the reviews on them. Go fondle the winners at your local shops if you can and then make the call. At least that's how I do my gun shopping. If you have a friend who has one or the chance to rent a few and can get a chance to see how they shoot I do that as well but it's not always the case or even necessary.

 

[Peregrinator]

Trap, home defense and hunting are three different things with different requirements in a shotgun. Trap is usually a long barreled gun with break action. Home defense is usually shorter barreled with pump action. A gun for hunting would be best with a mid-length barrel and bolt action.

If I could have any shotgun, I'd get this: http://www.mossberg.com/product/sho...-special-purpose-special-purpose-9-shot/50645


But you'd never shoot trap with it. It would be a good compromise between home defense and hunting.

Thanks, Johnny.

Mossberg 500 was going to be my entry-level suggestion.

Saiga's are great, but expect to have to put a LOT of work into converting it, and they're very finicky about what they'll feed well.

IF you've got the money, and can find one, I'd recommend a VEPR12. They're kind of hard to find though.

Remington 800s are great for more of a mid-range pump option. The amount of aftermarket parts available is fantastic.

Or, you can always get a SPAS12, but make sure you get a later version with the button safety... Kind of heavy/unwieldy, but awesome at the same time.

I've never shot a Banelli, but I've always wanted to.

Personally, I'd go with the Saiga, but only if you have a lot of extra time on your hands to fiddle with it. For the price of a decent 800, you can have a really nice semi-auto set-up. They'll eat up your time, and they can eat up the more expensive shells... If you can, get it set-up to cycle cheap stuff, asap, because you'll be wanting to shoot it a lot.

I thought about the Remington as well. It's funny how the guns in a particular profile that you've heard of tend to be the ones everyone suggests...

 

[Peregrinator]

NP...yea familiarity has it's perks.

No...those are just the ones I would suggest b/c I tried them and liked them.

There are other ones you can get in the same price range (250-500) that are all of all sorts of designs. And if you stick with a good reputable name brand it's kinda hard to go wrong imo. Remington, Mossberg, Seaiga, Browning are all good manufactures of very reasonably priced shot guns.

What I would do if i were you is check out a site like Cheaper than dirt...do some E window shopping..pick out a few think you might like, then google/youtube the various models and check out the reviews on them. Go fondle the winners at your local shops if you can and then make the call. At least that's how I do my gun shopping. If you have a friend who has one or the chance to rent a few and can get a chance to see how they shoot I do that as well but it's not always the case or even necessary.

Makes sense. This is harder. I know exactly which rifles and handguns I want. Shotties, well, seems to me they all go "Bang!" real loud when I pull the trigger.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I just sold mine, bought another for $400.00 and sold it too.

OH 400!! OH...if you get another one for that price I would really appreciate a home boy hook up. Just PM and we will talk.

Mossberg 500 was going to be my entry-level suggestion.

Saiga's are great, but expect to have to put a LOT of work into converting it, and they're very finicky about what they'll feed well.

IF you've got the money, and can find one, I'd recommend a VEPR12. They're kind of hard to find though.

Remington 800s are great for more of a mid-range pump option. The amount of aftermarket parts available is fantastic.

Or, you can always get a SPAS12, but make sure you get a later version with the button safety... Kind of heavy/unwieldy, but awesome at the same time.

I've never shot a Banelli, but I've always wanted to.

Personally, I'd go with the Saiga, but only if you have a lot of extra time on your hands to fiddle with it. For the price of a decent 800, you can have a really nice semi-auto set-up. They'll eat up your time, and they can eat up the more expensive shells... If you can, get it set-up to cycle cheap stuff, asap, because you'll be wanting to shoot it a lot.

The man knows his shot guns lol ^^^^

I'm a huge fan of tinkering/customizing/ tweaking my set ups so I guess that kinda explains my taste in hardware. I assume you like your's "just so" as well?

I'm tore up man, not really b/c i'm getting the 879 first for hunting but I so want this classic little bad ass...just for the cool factor.
http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/2-CIM1878CG.jpg
Cimarron 1878 Coach gun...12g side by side.

and yes the vepr12 is pretty sick...would love to shoot one.

Makes sense. This is harder. I know exactly which rifles and handguns I want. Shotties, well, seems to me they all go "Bang!" real loud when I pull the trigger.

lol yea...it's such a bizzar weapon/shooting style to me. I like it though I'm looking at getting into 3gun competitions just b/c they are a lot of fun and good training that include the shotty, a skill I would like to develop more. But they all seem pretty close to the same, far more dependent on action style than precision building.

 

[richard_daily]

The man knows his shot guns lol ^^^^

I'm a huge fan of tinkering/customizing/ tweaking my set ups so I guess that kinda explains my taste in hardware. I assume you like your's "just so" as well?

I'm tore up man, not really b/c i'm getting the 879 first for hunting but I so want this classic little bad ass...just for the cool factor.
http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/2-CIM1878CG.jpg
Cimarron 1878 Coach gun...12g side by side.

and yes the vepr12 is pretty sick...would love to shoot one.

I don't even want to think about getting into coach guns... my wallet is letting out a groan just thinking about it.

That's sweet looking though.

VEPRs are fantastic... Some of the sturdiest built and smoothest actions on any eastern block AK style stuff you'll ever come across off the shelf.

You can easily dump 2 grand into a Saiga and still not have it feel finished, but if you just want to do the simple conversion yourself, and have it cycle low-brass cheap crap, you can easily do it all for around $700.

That said, there's is a stock I'm eyeballing that goes for around $700.

I don't really need it, but you know how that goes.