Hey, gun nuts!

I woke up this morning to a card that said, basically, "Happy birthday, buy yourself a shotgun."

So now I need suggestions for a mid-range, all around 12-ga that will shoot trap, be a reasonable choice for home defense, and hunt if I decide to start hunting with it. Anyone got a favorite?

You can't go wrong with a Remington 870. Buy one you can shoot your trap with and get an extra barrel for it for knocking about the house.
 
You can't go wrong with a Remington 870. Buy one you can shoot your trap with and get an extra barrel for it for knocking about the house.

This man speaks the truth! I have an 870 with a 30 inch barrel I use for skeet. I'll buy a short barrel eventually but its a great shooting gun. Only thing I don't like is where the release is for the pump. It is near the trigger guard. I prefur the mossburg setup where the release is on top of the receiver. Both are great shotguns though.
 
If your gonna shoot trap, skeet or sporting clays a Beretta 390 is a nice all around semi auto shotgun. Cost is about 600 to 900 dollars and they last a lifetime. I shoot a Beretta Extrema II for sporting clays and love the gun. Check out the forums at shotgunworld. com lots of good info and people who know shotguns.
 
You can't go wrong with a Remington 870. Buy one you can shoot your trap with and get an extra barrel for it for knocking about the house.

If your gonna shoot trap, skeet or sporting clays a Beretta 390 is a nice all around semi auto shotgun. Cost is about 600 to 900 dollars and they last a lifetime. I shoot a Beretta Extrema II for sporting clays and love the gun. Check out the forums at shotgunworld. com lots of good info and people who know shotguns.

Okay, everybody. I need a comparison chart among Beretta 390, Remington 870, and Mossberg 500-series.

Dick, I'm not ignoring your post(s) at all, but these three are easy to find and commonly purchased, which means if it sucks when I shoot it I can dump it easily, and they all offer customizability without a lot of effort on my part.
 
Okay, everybody. I need a comparison chart among Beretta 390, Remington 870, and Mossberg 500-series.
Remington.

They make the shittiest electric razors ever, but they do make great guns.

Mossberg is supposedly good, but I don't like where they put the safety.
 
Remington.

They make the shittiest electric razors ever, but they do make great guns.

Mossberg is supposedly good, but I don't like where they put the safety.

I'm pretty settled on the 870 line. Now I'm narrowing down which variety I like best. I'm torn between--among, I guess--the 870 Express Tactical,

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/Firearms/Shotguns/Model-870/Model-870-Express-Tactical/870-Express-Tactical-81198-prod.ashx

the 870 Express Super Mag Combo,

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/Firearms/Shotguns/Model-870/Model-870-Express-Super-Mag-Combo/870exp_smagcombo-prod.ashx

and the 887 Nitro Mag Tactical.

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/2010%20Products/Shotguns/887Tactical-prod.ashx

Features/benefits/cost discussion of these relative to each other is requested and welcomed.
 
Okay, never mind the first one, the 870 Tactical. I handled the 887 today and it's sweet. That or the Mag Combo?
 
However people see it, never pick up a gun unless you intend to use it. Never point it at anyone unless you intend to shoot them. My logic is simple when it comes to self defense.
 
Koala, that's just a standard 870 with a short barrel, yes?

I think what I'm going to wind up doing is buying the 887 for various stuff and then getting a dedicated trap gun. It's unlikely that I'll ever go bird hunting anyway. Maybe a double barrel of some kind. I have all winter to scan ads for a decent used one so next spring I'll be ready to start trap shooting twice a week and get good at it.

Anyone read a review or criticism of the 887? Anything I need to know before I go ahead and buy it?
 
Koala, that's just a standard 870 with a short barrel, yes?

I think what I'm going to wind up doing is buying the 887 for various stuff and then getting a dedicated trap gun. It's unlikely that I'll ever go bird hunting anyway. Maybe a double barrel of some kind. I have all winter to scan ads for a decent used one so next spring I'll be ready to start trap shooting twice a week and get good at it.

Anyone read a review or criticism of the 887? Anything I need to know before I go ahead and buy it?

Read the link below the pic, it is not assembly line made like the rest of their shotguns.
 
Read the link below the pic, it is not assembly line made like the rest of their shotguns.

So, superior QC, I guess. Not that anyone complains about the 870 anyway, as far as google has shown me so far. There is some bitching about the 887, however. I'm so wavering between that and the 870 Mag Combo.
 
So, superior QC, I guess. Not that anyone complains about the 870 anyway, as far as google has shown me so far. There is some bitching about the 887, however. I'm so wavering between that and the 870 Mag Combo.

Ok if you hunt deer and put Magpul furniture on it. :)
 
I'm pretty settled on the 870 line. Now I'm narrowing down which variety I like best. I'm torn between--among, I guess--the 870 Express Tactical,

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/Firearms/Shotguns/Model-870/Model-870-Express-Tactical/870-Express-Tactical-81198-prod.ashx

the 870 Express Super Mag Combo,

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/Firearms/Shotguns/Model-870/Model-870-Express-Super-Mag-Combo/870exp_smagcombo-prod.ashx

and the 887 Nitro Mag Tactical.

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/2010%20Products/Shotguns/887Tactical-prod.ashx

Features/benefits/cost discussion of these relative to each other is requested and welcomed.

I like the brown and black one. It's more attractive.

Don't they come in colors? They're so.....blah.
 
I like the brown and black one. It's more attractive.

Don't they come in colors? They're so.....blah.

You can get pink furniture... which is quite manly, if you were alive in the 30s... which I think some of Lit's wingnuts were.


There are some really nice custom-jobs out there, and if you're crafty, you can make your own.
 
That's a start. Can I pick my own colors? My speakers are dead so I couldn't hear the spiel.

Actually, I'm not in market anyway. My dad's old 12 gauge will scare the baddies just fine, I'm thinking. Guns are cool, though. I like shooting.

I have a friend who does custom painting jobs on gun furniture. I'm sure he'd be delighted to paint your dad's gun pink or whatever. Paisley, maybe.

What kind of gun is it? I think just about any 12-ga is pretty damned intimidating. There's nothing quite like the sound of racking a shell to put a prowler off.

Speaking of, I received today my matched set of these:

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2012/07/20/bug-a-salt-bug-assault-pistol-grip-shotgun/

They KICK ASS.
 
I have a friend who does custom painting jobs on gun furniture. I'm sure he'd be delighted to paint your dad's gun pink or whatever. Paisley, maybe.

What kind of gun is it? I think just about any 12-ga is pretty damned intimidating. There's nothing quite like the sound of racking a shell to put a prowler off.

Speaking of, I received today my matched set of these:

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2012/07/20/bug-a-salt-bug-assault-pistol-grip-shotgun/

They KICK ASS.

It's a 1950s era Remington 870, ironically enough. Dad called it his Wingmaster. The stock is roughed up some, but it works just fine. My grandpa and then my dad both used it for hunting pheasant every autumn. It brought home a fair number of squirrels and rabbits too, but mostly they were birders. My sister and I would go along and be the dogs. We'd scare up the pheasants and then run them down after they were shot.

It's really too big of a gun for me. Knocks me on my butt unless I plant myself really firm, and it takes a lot for me to haul it up quickly into shooting position so except for prowler intimidation, it's not too practical. But it makes a loud boom and I sure wouldn't want to be at the other end of it when it goes off.

And yes, the sound of somebody pumping in a shell would be enough by itself to turn most bad guys away. It actually gives me a bit of a thrill just to do that.
 
It's a 1950s era Remington 870, ironically enough. Dad called it his Wingmaster. The stock is roughed up some, but it works just fine. My grandpa and then my dad both used it for hunting pheasant every autumn. It brought home a fair number of squirrels and rabbits too, but mostly they were birders. My sister and I would go along and be the dogs. We'd scare up the pheasants and then run them down after they were shot.

It's really too big of a gun for me. Knocks me on my butt unless I plant myself really firm, and it takes a lot for me to haul it up quickly into shooting position so except for prowler intimidation, it's not too practical. But it makes a loud boom and I sure wouldn't want to be at the other end of it when it goes off.

And yes, the sound of somebody pumping in a shell would be enough by itself to turn most bad guys away. It actually gives me a bit of a thrill just to do that.

From what I've been reading, that's the classic American-made 12-ga. I want one! But absent you sending it to me, I promise the next time you shoot it I'll kneel behind you with my hands on your butt to steady you.
 
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