How old were you when....?

[where]

translation?

I smell bullshit.

 

[kinky_caligirl]

I smell bullshit.

soooo you are a 20 yo virgin but you have had oral sex at 15 and then 18 which is when you also had a foursome and BDSM although you were into BDSM at 15?

why do I smell eau du merde?




Heh... glad it's not just me.

Well that is all true. the foursome was all girls.
you can smell what you want. but I know its all true. and I am who I say I am and thats all that matters. that I know I am not a"fake"

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Heh. I'm usually one of the skeptics, but I kinda figured the OP was legit, though a tad naive with her initial post of the thread. I still think she probably is, even though I shudder a bit with each post, due to her lack of appropriate capitalization, simple sentence structure, etc. I'm still hopeful her syntax and structure will mature as she does.

As far as potential inconsistencies in her timeline, she's at least mostly given logical explication for each that has been brought up, without the kind of defensiveness one often sees in the perpetual prevaricator.

I still come down on the side of giving her a chance to wriggle her way into (what we consider) normalcy.

 

[kinky_caligirl]

Heh. I'm usually one of the skeptics, but I kinda figured the OP was legit, though a tad naive with her initial post of the thread. I still think she probably is, even though I shudder a bit with each post, due to her lack of appropriate capitalization, simple sentence structure, etc. I'm still hopeful her syntax and structure will mature as she does.

As far as potential inconsistencies in her timeline, she's at least mostly given logical explication for each that has been brought up, without the kind of defensiveness one often sees in the perpetual prevaricator.

I still come down on the side of giving her a chance to wriggle her way into (what we consider) normalcy.

Thank you. Yes, I am bad with capitalization and simple sentence structure. Forgive me. If I may, what was naive about my initial post?

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Doesn't sex with girls = sex = you're not a virgin anymore?

 

[kinky_caligirl]

Doesn't sex with girls = sex = you're not a virgin anymore?

Some people may see it that way. However, I do not. My mother believes that if the opposite sex has seen you naked in a sexual way then you are no longer a virgin.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Some people may see it that way. However, I do not. My mother believes that if the opposite sex has seen you naked in a sexual way then you are no longer a virgin.

Oh gosh.

I do hope the queer folk don't hear you say that.

But, to each their own opinion.

I think sex, no matter who's involved, means you're no longer a virgin.

Hang on. So, a guy would only have to *see* me naked 'in a sexual way' like.. he's horny and I'm horny and we're naked and looking at each other, so we're no longer virgins?

 

[kinky_caligirl]

Oh gosh.

I do hope the queer folk don't hear you say that.

But, to each their own opinion.

I think sex, no matter who's involved, means you're no longer a virgin.

Hang on. So, a guy would only have to *see* me naked 'in a sexual way' like.. he's horny and I'm horny and we're naked and looking at each other, so we're no longer virgins?

I mean it in that I am bi and I see penitration as taking my virginity. And maybe you're right that I am no longer a virgin. However, I have always seen myself as a virgin still.
Yes, that is right.

 

[FloggingMolly]

I didn't count my virginity lost til actual penetration, which I would imagine is the same definition most doctors would make?

 

[where]

Heh. I'm usually one of the skeptics, but I kinda figured the OP was legit, though a tad naive with her initial post of the thread. I still think she probably is, even though I shudder a bit with each post, due to her lack of appropriate capitalization, simple sentence structure, etc. I'm still hopeful her syntax and structure will mature as she does.

As far as potential inconsistencies in her timeline, she's at least mostly given logical explication for each that has been brought up, without the kind of defensiveness one often sees in the perpetual prevaricator.

I still come down on the side of giving her a chance to wriggle her way into (what we consider) normalcy.

it was the saving myself until I'm married to lose my virginity bit.

maybe I'm overly cynical.

 

[ownedsubgal]

I didn't count my virginity lost til actual penetration, which I would imagine is the same definition most doctors would make?

well i have always believed that once penetration of ANY kind has taken place (penis in mouth, penis in pussy, penis in bum, finger/tongue in pussy, etc.) then virginity is a thing of the past. there are many sexual acts outside of piv intercourse, and it's engaging in sexual acts period that makes one no longer a virgin, not engaging in one very specific act.

still, i always say i lost my virginity twice...there was the first time my body was sexually used, and then there was the first time i engaged in consensual sexual activity, 8 years later at 13. neither of those were piv intercourse.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

How old were you when you discovered playing (masturbating), when you had your first orgasm, and when or if you lost your virginity?

I was 9 for masturbating, 10 almost 11 for my first orgasm, and I am a virgin.

what about you?

I am 20.

and I am waiting till I get married. but I have gone as far as oral sex then made a promise not too till I get married.

Thank you. Yes, I am bad with capitalization and simple sentence structure. Forgive me. If I may, what was naive about my initial post?

No forgiveness necessary, but forgive me for the spelling corrections above. That word is one of my pet peeves.

Naive not so much in content as in conceptualization and actualization. While asking for fairly specific information, it took you at least three separate posts to get your thought fully "out there" for readers to follow. There was a feeling of, "Ooooh! I have an idea!" [Post] "Ooooh, I didn't include this!" [Post] "Ooooh, I didn't include that!" [Post], rather than "Hmmm, I have an idea. How can I develop it to cover what I'm interested in? It should include {concept}, {concept} and {concept}.

"Okay, draft it out, re-read it, make a couple of changes for the sake of clarity <here> and <here>, re-read it again... Good!" [Post]

That isn't to say that other things may come up later on ("ETA" {"edited to add"} is good for that if it occurs fairly soon after the OP, or another post, if some time or a relatively "large" number of responses have already been posted), but that it's good, especially when starting a thread, to try to visualize the results of the OP and how people may react to it. (Not that people's potential reactions should EVER stop you from posting something of importance to you, but just that, for example, in this particular thread, you might have asked yourself, "What other dates/occurrences might be important in this context? What specific information (bi-sex experience, hetero-sex experience, gay sex experience) might be pertinent to these readers when discussing these things?"

Above all, despite "criticisms" (which, really, this isn't! more in the line of hoping to help ease your way into the community) and kvetching from the hoi polloi, if it's a topic of interest or importance and seems to fit here... post away! Don't let us scare you off. Most of us don't bite ... too hard.

 

[kinky_caligirl]

it was the saving myself until I'm married to lose my virginity bit.

maybe I'm overly cynical.

Yes, I am saving myself until I get married, for God, myself, and my father. I made a promise to save myself. As it says to do in the bible.

 

[MisterSir]

Yes, I am saving myself until I get married, for God, myself, and my father. I made a promise to save myself. As it says to do in the bible.

But lesbian foursomes are cool. No problem with masturbation either.

Right.

 

[Cattypuss]

But lesbian foursomes are cool. No problem with masturbation either.

Right.

 

[kinky_caligirl]

No forgiveness necessary, but forgive me for the spelling corrections above. That word is one of my pet peeves.

Naive not so much in content as in conceptualization and actualization. While asking for fairly specific information, it took you at least three separate posts to get your thought fully "out there" for readers to follow. There was a feeling of, "Ooooh! I have an idea!" [Post] "Ooooh, I didn't include this!" [Post] "Ooooh, I didn't include that!" [Post], rather than "Hmmm, I have an idea. How can I develop it to cover what I'm interested in? It should include {concept}, {concept} and {concept}.

"Okay, draft it out, re-read it, make a couple of changes for the sake of clarity <here> and <here>, re-read it again... Good!" [Post]

That isn't to say that other things may come up later on ("ETA" {"edited to add"} is good for that if it occurs fairly soon after the OP, or another post, if some time or a relatively "large" number of responses have already been posted), but that it's good, especially when starting a thread, to try to visualize the results of the OP and how people may react to it. (Not that people's potential reactions should EVER stop you from posting something of importance to you, but just that, for example, in this particular thread, you might have asked yourself, "What other dates/occurrences might be important in this context? What specific information (bi-sex experience, hetero-sex experience, gay sex experience) might be pertinent to these readers when discussing these things?"

Above all, despite "criticisms" (which, really, this isn't! more in the line of hoping to help ease your way into the community) and kvetching from the hoi polloi, if it's a topic of interet or importance and seems to fit here... post away! Don't let us scare you off. Most of us don't bite ... too hard.

The spelling corrections are fine. I will type masturbation and my computer automatically changes it to masterbation. So, I thought I was spelling it wrong.

People were asking questions and I was answering them. I do see your point in that I should think topics through before I post them. Thank you for helping me.

What does this kvetching from the hoi polloi mean? Not to worry, it would take alot more to scare me off. And the biting, well I just might like that.

 

[kinky_caligirl]

But lesbian foursomes are cool. No problem with masturbation either.

Right.

I made my promise before the foursome, everyone sins. That's not to say I wont ever be with a women again. No, I do not believe there is anything wrong with masturbation.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I mean it in that I am bi and I see penitration as taking my virginity. And maybe you're right that I am no longer a virgin. However, I have always seen myself as a virgin still.
Yes, that is right.

I know some men who think that way too. Gay guys, who have sucked and blown, rubbed up against a hundred other cocks-- but untill they take it up the ass, they consider themselves "virgins"

I know women who assfuck all the time, but consider themselves 'virgins' as long as their boyfriend's dick hasn't found its way into their pussy.

And I knew one girl who let me fuck her with a dildo but claimed she was a virgin because my strapon wasn't attached to a man-- she was totally a lesbian and laughed every time she said it, though...

Virginity is all in your head.

 

[Belle966]

I was really young when I started masturbating... I didn't know what I was doing or that it was sexual, I just knew that it felt good. I think I was about 7 or 8? First orgasm at around the same age.

I think the concept of virginity is so subjective and hard to define that I usually don't identify in any way with the label. Like others have said, I think it's limiting to define "real sex" simply as heterosexual intercourse, so I would only consider someone a virgin if they had never engaged in any sexual act. It's still difficult to know where the line is though - sometimes I think of losing your virginity as a process, rather than something that can be taken in a single act.

Anyway, I was 15 when I first engaged in sexual activity, and 18 when I first engaged in BDSM. I've never had sexual intercourse. Whether or not I'm a virgin is a matter of opinion, but I don't identify as one.

 

[MisterSir]

I made my promise before the foursome, everyone sins. That's not to say I wont ever be with a women again. No, I do not believe there is anything wrong with masturbation.

Whether or not you believe it isn't relevant, your point was that you're saving yourself for marriage because it says so in the Bible.

This is, for reference, the same Bible that the Roman Catholic Church (masturbation's a sin), Orthodox Church (masturbation's a sin), Church of England (masturbation's a sin) and the Jesus Christ Church of Latter Day Saints (masturbation's a sin) all revere as their holy text.

What else we got? Buddhism teaches that followers should be neither attached to nor crave sensual pleasure (pretty sure masturbation's that); Shi'a Islam considers it a sin and Judaism I'm not getting into because I like all the people here I know are Jewish and don't particularly want to give them reason to rip me apart.

So. Wanna run that by me again?

 

[SirLeo]

Yes, I am saving myself until I get married, for God, myself, and my father. I made a promise to save myself. As it says to do in the bible.

I really do hope that your tongue is in your cheek caligirl, on the other had maybe you really are a really twisted kinky freak! Which I mean and intend in the most flattering way. Oh and look out for Sir Winston and his grammatical corrections, he probably just wants to do the bad schoolgirl gets spanked scene..

 

[satindesire]

Whether or not you believe it isn't relevant, your point was that you're saving yourself for marriage because it says so in the Bible.

This is, for reference, the same Bible that the Roman Catholic Church (masturbation's a sin), Orthodox Church (masturbation's a sin), Church of England (masturbation's a sin) and the Jesus Christ Church of Latter Day Saints (masturbation's a sin) all revere as their holy text.

What else we got? Buddhism teaches that followers should be neither attached to nor crave sensual pleasure (pretty sure masturbation's that); Shi'a Islam considers it a sin and Judaism I'm not getting into because I like all the people here I know are Jewish and don't particularly want to give them reason to rip me apart.

So. Wanna run that by me again?

MS, most of the time I don't mind when you go off, but for your sake, let it go. Please. Just let it go.

 

[MisterSir]

MS, most of the time I don't mind when you go off, but for your sake, let it go. Please. Just let it go.

It would turn into another religious debate, wouldn't it?

Well, alright. Just because it's you

 

[PolyLvr]

I didn't count my virginity lost til actual penetration, which I would imagine is the same definition most doctors would make?

I agree, for the most part. Strictly speaking, first vaginal penetration for male and female.
But there are other permutations. Anal virgin, BJ virgin, DATY virgin, etc.

 

[satindesire]

It would turn into another religious debate, wouldn't it?

Well, alright. Just because it's you

Thank you so much honey.