Is Trump a fascist NOW?!

[Wilson23]

The whole world can see he's acting a lot more like a fascist than he did in his first term.

 

[Chadrone]

The whole world can see he's acting a lot more like a fascist than he did in his first term.

"fascist" is anything that upsets leftist openborders commie Karencrats.

No. The only people acting more facist than in his second term than his first are you and yours.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

The whole world can see he's acting a lot more like a fascist than he did in his first term.

Yes, the world is seeing it and are distancing themselves accordingly.

The only people denying his fascism are imbeciles and pedophiles.

 

[Wilson23]

"fascist" is anything that upsets leftist openborders commie Karencrats.

Fascism has a definite meaning and it ain't that.

See also.

Better still, see here -- long read, but it's worth it.

 

[Wilson23]

Also of interest.

Any critical examination of the Trump regime in relation to fascism must attempt to define fascism and compare it with what we are now enduring. What follows is a partial roster of policies, attitudes and habits usually common to the various strains of fascism. They can be present to varying degrees depending on the system, and the absence of one or more does not mean the system isn’t fascist:

National renewal: The country must be reinvigorated from its decadence by a kind of shock therapy; this trait is a function of an exaggerated nostalgia and a hatred of the present.

Militarism, love of violence and machismo: Trump and Hegseth’s performance before the generals at Quantico offers a trenchant example.

Cult of the infallible leader: While the leader is of course indispensable, his supremacy and dominance would be impossible to maintain without the sycophancy and unquestioning obedience of millions of members of the national community.

Anti-intellectualism, anti-rationalism and feverish emotion: These traits best express themselves in a hatred of universities, science and learning more generally, and a superstitious embrace of faith, intuition and gut feelings.

Misogyny: This is the flip side of obligatory machismo, whereby women are not equal to men; their only value lies in conceiving and nurturing the chosen race.

Hatred of minorities: Fascism lacks a rationale and focus for its followers’ emotional intensity without an insidious internal enemy.

Cultural pessimism and an obsession with culture in general: This relates to fascism’s false nostalgia and its discomfort with the pluralism and nonconformity of liberal society.

Economic nationalism: This leads to a preference for tariffs and autarky in manufacturing, both as a symbol of strength and to isolate the country from foreign commercial and cultural influence.

Privileging of business interests and hostility to workers’ rights: This, however, is conditional on business leaders obediently supporting the regime (which they are mostly happy to do); paradoxically, it is conjoined with a loudly proclaimed but false populism and identification with the “working class.”

Hostility to parliamentary democracy: There is no need for a legislative body when the leader decrees the laws; nevertheless, fascist leaders typically maintain a Duma or a Reichstag as a marionette theater, a role for which Republican congressmen and senators are well suited.

Monumentalism, spectacle and kitsch: Fascist leaders need gargantuan physical symbols of their greatness (as in Hitler’s plan to transform Berlin into Germania); militarized parades and other gaudy spectacles also qualify, and both the architecture and the spectacles, as I have previously described, inevitably trend toward kitsch.

Lying as an existential need: Poland attacked the Third Reich. All true Ukrainians wish to join Mother Russia. Jan. 6, 2021, was a patriotic lovefest. Foreigners will pay the tariffs.

Nihilism: There are no enduring principles or values apart from the changeable whims of the leader; this annihilative impulse is contemptuous of human life and will ultimately lead to social and physical destruction, including widespread violence and death.

This is my own summary list, but it overlaps considerably with the characteristics of fascism described by Umberto Eco in an essay written 30 years ago.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Fascism has a definite meaning and it ain't that.

See also.

Better still, see here -- long read, but it's worth it.

Forgive him. He's an imbecile.

 

[Wilson23]

Forgive him. He's an imbecile.

Well, fascism is an interesting subject, in strictly intellectual terms.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Well, fascism is an interesting subject, in strictly intellectual terms.

You're in the wrong place for that.

 

[Chadrone]

Fascism has a definite meaning and it ain't that.

That definition lies right off the bat.

Fascism is a leftist ideology and has always used socialism as it's economic model.

 

[Chernosoth]

 

[Chernosoth]

Ask again on November 4.

 

[Chadrone]

Ask again on November 4.

Yea, after Democrats don't get what they want all the way in all places at all times, as that is how they use the term "democracy"..... they'll wail about fascism for another 2 years.

Totlaly failing to understand that if Trump were actually a fascist, they wouldn't be saying what they are publicly....they'd be TERRIFIED to even whisper their opinions to any other living humans.

 

[Chadrone]

The only people denying his fascism are imbeciles and pedophiles.

And everyone who's ever looked the definition of the word up from someone other than a communist (D)ipshit source.

You....are one of the most fascistic shits on the PB, you fucking retard.

 

[Wilson23]

That definition lies right off the bat.

Fascism is a leftist ideology and has always used socialism as it's economic model.

That is very definitely a lie -- of the PRATT kind.

 

[Wilson23]

Yea, after Democrats don't get what they want all the way in all places at all times, as that is how they use the term "democracy"..... they'll wail about fascism for another 2 years.

Hitler did come to power by constitutional means -- winning at that game is no proof you're not fascist.

 

[Chadrone]

That is very definitely a lie -- of the PRATT kind.

No it's not. Marxist footstamping insisting they are the one true left wing isn't refuting shit.

Hitler did come to power by constitutional means -- winning at that game is no proof you're not fascist.

Irrelivant.

Neither term is honsttely used very often by democrats/leftoids. "fascist" is just "shit democrat doesn't like" and has no actual relvence to the political ideology.

When they say "our democracy" that's a dishonest dressing up of "our authority".....they don't give a fuck about what the people/states voted for (actual democracy) they want what they want and they'll do just about anything to get it.

 

[Rightguide]

The whole world can see he's acting a lot more like a fascist than he did in his first term.

You are a delusional liar. "Fascist," is the go-to buzzword stupid people use when they’ve run out of actual arguments. Trump is doing what he did last time: pushing policies in broad daylight, under constant media scrutiny, through the same constitutional legal framework everyone else uses. If restoring borders, enforcing laws, and undoing bureaucratic overreach is ‘fascism’ now, then the word has officially lost all meaning. That, or you're too damn undereducated to know what the word means. Fascist” isn’t a generic insult; it refers to regimes that committed genocide, abolished elections, and imposed totalitarian control. Throwing the word at a political opponent trivializes actual fascism. Then again, you're a trivial person.

 

[Wilson23]

No it's not. Marxist footstamping insisting they are the one true left wing isn't refuting shit.

George Orwell put it best:

But what then is Fascism?

Fascism, at any rate the German version, is a form of capitalism that borrows from Socialism just such features as will make it efficient for war purposes. Internally, Germany has a good deal in common with a Socialist state. Ownership has never been abolished, there are still capitalists and workers, and – this is the important point, and the real reason why rich men all over the world tend to sympathize with Fascism – generally speaking the same people are capitalists and the same people workers as before the Nazi revolution. But at the same time the State, which is simply the Nazi Party, is in control of everything. It controls investment, raw materials, rates of interest, working hours, wages. The factory owner still owns his factory, but he is for practical purposes reduced to the status of a manager. Everyone is in effect a State employee, though the salaries vary very greatly. The mere efficiency of such a system, the elimination of waste and obstruction, is obvious. In seven years it has built up the most powerful war machine the world has ever seen.

But the idea underlying Fascism is irreconcilably different from that which underlies Socialism. Socialism aims, ultimately, at a world-state of free and equal human beings. It takes the equality of human rights for granted. Nazism assumes just the opposite. The driving force behind the Nazi movement is the belief in human inequality, the superiority of Germans to all other races, the right of Germany to rule the world. Outside the German Reich it does not recognize any obligations. Eminent Nazi professors have ‘proved’ over and over again that only nordic man is fully human, have even mooted the idea that non-nordic peoples (such as ourselves) can interbreed with gorillas! Therefore, while a species of war-Socialism exists within the German state, its attitude towards conquered nations is frankly that of an exploiter. The function of the Czechs, Poles, French, etc. is simply to produce such goods as Germany may need, and get in return just as little as will keep them from open rebellion. If we are conquered, our job will probably be to manufacture weapons for Hitler's forthcoming wars with Russia and America. The Nazis aim, in effect, at setting up a kind of caste system, with four main castes corresponding rather closely to those of the Hindu religion. At the top comes the Nazi party, second come the mass of the German people, third come the conquered European populations. Fourth and last are to come the coloured peoples, the ‘semi-apes’ as Hitler calls them, who are to be reduced quite openly to slavery.
However horrible this system may seem to us, it works. It works because it is a planned system geared to a definite purpose, world-conquest, and not allowing any private interest, either of capitalist or worker, to stand in its way. British capitalism does not work, because it is a competitive system in which private profit is and must be the main objective. It is a system in which all the forces are pulling in opposite directions and the interests of the individual are as often as not totally opposed to those of the State.

 

[Bray123]

Fascism has a definite meaning and it ain't that.

See also.

Better still, see here -- long read, but it's worth it.

That definition lies right off the bat.

Fascism is a leftist ideology and has always used socialism as it's economic model.

See, this is what you're up against. These are people who think that vaccines kill people but giving insane folks guns doesn't.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

And everyone who's ever looked the definition of the word up from someone other than a communist (D)ipshit source.

You....are one of the most fascistic shits on the PB, you fucking retard.

ROR, you make me raff out roud with your ignorance. You trumptard pedophiles are all imbeciles.
Keep crying, chan. ror

 

[Philthy_Phil]

See, this is what you're up against. These are people who think that vaccines kill people but giving insane folks guns doesn't.

Forgive chan, he's a literal idiot.

 

[Chadrone]

See, this is what you're up against. These are people who think that vaccines kill people but giving insane folks guns doesn't.

Oh look it can't actually put an argument together....just blows hot shit scented air.

 

[Chadrone]

ROR, you make me raff out roud with your ignorance. You trumptard pedophiles are all imbeciles.
Keep crying, chan. ror

So you looked it up and saw I was right but couldn't take your L like an adult and had to respond with a bunch of projection about your ofline activities.

Sad.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

So you looked it up and saw I was right but couldn't take your L like an adult and had to respond with a bunch of projection about your ofline activities.

Sad.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong and being a dumbass, chan? ror

Poor stupid pedo chan.

 

[Wilson23]

You are a delusional liar. "Fascist," is the go-to buzzword stupid people use when they’ve run out of actual arguments. Trump is doing what he did last time: pushing policies in broad daylight, under constant media scrutiny, through the same constitutional legal framework everyone else uses. If restoring borders, enforcing laws, and undoing bureaucratic overreach is ‘fascism’ now, then the word has officially lost all meaning. That, or you're too damn undereducated to know what the word means. Fascist” isn’t a generic insult; it refers to regimes that committed genocide, abolished elections, and imposed totalitarian control. Throwing the word at a political opponent trivializes actual fascism. Then again, you're a trivial person.

Trump is sending National Guard troops into American cities. If that's not fascist, it is definitely authoritarian, and fascism waits at the bottom of that slope.

More importantly, Trump is acting even more now than in his first term like he will tolerate no resistance. He will have his way on everything. He will recognize no opposition as legitimate. That is fascist.