maybe this is an american thing...

[Tuomas]

I'm Jewish.

*wakes up*
Really, now? You've just acquired my undevided atention

As for the topic at hand:

Further to the nurse idea, you could have an American (or Israeli... I mean, really, why does she have to be American?) You can have an Israeli nurse who volunteers to do charity work in a Latin American country. There, she helps doctors in perfoming full physical examinations on people who are otherwise healthy, but need to be qualified for... I dunno, say the fire department. So, she get's her first introduction to uncut cocks. She gets curious about what they would feel like, etc. So, when a rather hunky young man strolls in, and the doctor is called out for an emergency, she decides to find out...

 

[Alexandra1979]

I can't bring myself to suck off an uncut cock. Too many issues of smegma and such. Which has unfortunately contributed to the breakup of my engagement. Very unfortunate. If he got circumcised, however, I'd do it for him. It's not religious, as I'm an atheist. It's just a personal hygiene issue. There were other factors in the breakup, some my fault and some his. But that was a cause of friction between us.

 

[EveAnna]

Circumcision isn't something thats done here in the UK unless there is a special reason - religion or health etc.

I'm in the other group - I've never seen a circumcised cock in real life lol.

How to work it into a story:- Maybe have a recently widowed or divorced woman, might even have children, but she's only been with one or two men and never with an uncircumcised one. She meets a new man, and finds it hard to handle the thought of sex with an uncircumcised cock.

To some women, the foreskin would be strange, I would image its really different doing oral on a cut cock. You have to be careful of the skin on an uncut cock, slide it out of the way etc - But it gives you more to play with. - But I can understand your reluctance.

 

[bushy_chrissy]

I'm Jewish. But, uncut can have more problems with cleanliness and STDs. Really, I don't see the big difference.

It is hard for me to picture that the (almost) entirety of England is full of men with cleanliness issues related to their penis. No harder to clean than us women who have folds of skin to clean, just a matter of washing and how we were taught to clean ourselves.

I think the 'cleanliness' idea is something that people pull up when they are in search of justifications for circumcision. It was a gut reaction to make the circumcized penis more appealing, but with anything more than a gut reaction and a few seconds thought, it really doesn't hold water.

Everyone feels how they feel on this, I'm just looking forward to more suggestions on how to incorporate this into an erotic story. Have a great day!

 

[bushy_chrissy]

*wakes up*
As for the topic at hand:

Further to the nurse idea, you could have an American (or Israeli... I mean, really, why does she have to be American?) You can have an Israeli nurse who volunteers to do charity work in a Latin American country. There, she helps doctors in perfoming full physical examinations on people who are otherwise healthy, but need to be qualified for... I dunno, say the fire department. So, she get's her first introduction to uncut cocks. She gets curious about what they would feel like, etc. So, when a rather hunky young man strolls in, and the doctor is called out for an emergency, she decides to find out...

Very true that it needn't be an american thing. I like your twist, especially as I'm sure many Israeli/Jewish women haven't seen a natural penis before.

Fascinating idea for a story with the nurse twist... hmmm... ;-)

 

[bushy_chrissy]

I can't bring myself to suck off an uncut cock. Too many issues of smegma and such. Which has unfortunately contributed to the breakup of my engagement. Very unfortunate. If he got circumcised, however, I'd do it for him. It's not religious, as I'm an atheist. It's just a personal hygiene issue. There were other factors in the breakup, some my fault and some his. But that was a cause of friction between us.

I'm sorry you had such an experience Alexandra, I truly am. It is sad for me to hear that you feel this was a huge factor in your breakup...

I do not mean to be judgemental, but something to think about... If he had said "I'll only marry you if you have part of your genitals cut off..." would you have done it for him?
If he expressed concern over sexual relations with you because of your smegma (which we gals do get too)... I'd hope the solution would involve suggesting more frequent showers, rather than surgery. Just some food for thought.

I wish you well and hope the world sends you the man of your dreams. Hopefully you'll someday see an intact man who actually takes care of his body, washes, etc, and you'll see that it is not the norm for a man to go days w/out washing.

Best wishes!

 

[patcat]

Still wondering when someone will post something else about how to work this into an erotic story...

Woman pulls out a man's cock with the intent on giving him a blowjob. She sees the foreskin and decides to go for a condom. She hands the condom to the man and while watching him put it on she checks the time "OMG! I'm going to be late picking of a friends child from dance class. She would never forgive me if I am late. Can I get a rain check? Bye."

 

[BedtimeStories77]

I think the 'cleanliness' idea is something that people pull up when they are in search of justifications for circumcision.

Or when they're not really sure what they're talking about. It seems to be the "only argument they can find" and/or understand.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I'm sorry you had such an experience Alexandra, I truly am. It is sad for me to hear that you feel this was a huge factor in your breakup...

I do not mean to be judgemental, but something to think about... If he had said "I'll only marry you if you have part of your genitals cut off..." would you have done it for him?
If he expressed concern over sexual relations with you because of your smegma (which we gals do get too)... I'd hope the solution would involve suggesting more frequent showers, rather than surgery. Just some food for thought.

I wish you well and hope the world sends you the man of your dreams. Hopefully you'll someday see an intact man who actually takes care of his body, washes, etc, and you'll see that it is not the norm for a man to go days w/out washing.

Best wishes!

I know the gentleman in question. He's not a dirty sort. He was paranoid about making sure that his glans penis (that's the head for lay folks) was clean of any smegma. I think that Alexis, as sweet as she is, was too prone to believe the old wives' tales about uncircumcised cocks.

 

[Tuomas]

The whole "cleanliness" issue is one of those myths that survive through use. Before, when bathing and showering were not common, a non-circumcized penis probably did acrue more detrious. Now, with such things like underwear, showers, and clean work environments, it's no longer the case.

Besides, it's a matter of personal prefrence. Unfortunately, most people can't keep their prefrences to themselves, and insist on forcing them on others.

Very true that it needn't be an american thing. I like your twist, especially as I'm sure many Israeli/Jewish women haven't seen a natural penis before.

Fascinating idea for a story with the nurse twist... hmmm... ;-)

Well if you do write something like that, let me know
*likes nurses*

I was also going to mention to you that in Etheopia, there is a custom where female genitilia are loped off at birth as a means of controlling their sexuality. It is widely considered barbaric, and an afront to women's rights. The primary purpose of this is to remove the clitoris (and I imagine it is rather painful) so she will not enjoy sex. It is, of course a rather primitive means of sexual control ... and so is circumcision, since it predates history. Some of this removal of female external genetilia has been scaled down to merely removing part of her labium, but it still accuonts for wide protest among the human rights community. Interestingly, men do not seem to get "equal treatment" in this area

 

[Alexandra1979]

I'm sorry you had such an experience Alexandra, I truly am. It is sad for me to hear that you feel this was a huge factor in your breakup...

I do not mean to be judgemental, but something to think about... If he had said "I'll only marry you if you have part of your genitals cut off..." would you have done it for him?
If he expressed concern over sexual relations with you because of your smegma (which we gals do get too)... I'd hope the solution would involve suggesting more frequent showers, rather than surgery. Just some food for thought.

I wish you well and hope the world sends you the man of your dreams. Hopefully you'll someday see an intact man who actually takes care of his body, washes, etc, and you'll see that it is not the norm for a man to go days w/out washing.

Best wishes!

I don't know if he clean or not. I just assumed that he couldn't be, with an uncut cock. Guess that was a goof-up on my part.

 

[Alexandra1979]

I know the gentleman in question. He's not a dirty sort. He was paranoid about making sure that his glans penis (that's the head for lay folks) was clean of any smegma. I think that Alexis, as sweet as she is, was too prone to believe the old wives' tales about uncircumcised cocks.

Sad that you got before I did. I guess I wasn't that good of a gf, after all.

 

[patcat]

...

Besides, it's a matter of personal prefrence. Unfortunately, most people can't keep their prefrences to themselves, and insist on forcing them on others.


...

I agree that it is a matter of personal preference, but I don't think there is any forcing going on. There are usually two sides and in an open forum you are bound to side both.

*kisses*

 

[emap]

I must say, the cleanliness issue of uncut cocks is real, if you or your boyfriend is uncut and exercises often say in warm weather he can develop diaper rash so to speak under the foreskin if he does not shower regularly and pays attention to said foreskin.

Actual matter in there doesn't happen anymore I think unless say he swims in bogs and such or doesn't wear underwear with baggy pants in dirty areas, namely construction or mining areas.

More or less though, it doesn't matter so long as he showers often and actually say makes sure to do more than get wet. That is a problem all men can have and is incredibly irritating to find those men.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

I don't know if he clean or not. I just assumed that he couldn't be, with an uncut cock. Guess that was a goof-up on my part.

You honestly broke up with him on an assumption?

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

You honestly broke up with him on an assumption?

Good question. She might be a nice girl, but that makes no sense at all. Like I said, I know Chris. He's fussy kind of neat and clean, in an anal-retentive way. He wouldn't have a dirty dick, for reasons of personal hygiene and general principles. Unless he leads some kind of sloppy double life around her that I don't know about, she should have learned to trust him by now on that issue.

 

[cloudy]

I can't bring myself to suck off an uncut cock. Too many issues of smegma and such. Which has unfortunately contributed to the breakup of my engagement. Very unfortunate. If he got circumcised, however, I'd do it for him. It's not religious, as I'm an atheist. It's just a personal hygiene issue. There were other factors in the breakup, some my fault and some his. But that was a cause of friction between us.

Personal hygiene means washing, not undergoing surgery because you're not grown up enough to deal with a real, uncut cock.



get over it.

 

[Texguy84]

You honestly broke up with him on an assumption?

IIRC, she said it was a contributing factor, but I don't recall her saying anything about it being a major factor or the sole factor. In fact, she said there were other issues at play.

Not to make a judgment on her circumcision stance one way or the other, but people seem to be zeroing in on that at the exclusion of any other factors.

 

[cloudy]

IIRC, she said it was a contributing factor, but I don't recall her saying anything about it being a major factor or the sole factor. In fact, she said there were other issues at play.

Not to make a judgment on her circumcision stance one way or the other, but people seem to be zeroing in on that at the exclusion of any other factors.

She said she wouldn't give him oral because he wasn't circumcised, and that it was "dirty."

IMO, she not only needs an education, she needs to grow up, and realize the world doesn't spin around her. For christ's sake, asking a guy to undergo surgery because [brittney spears voice] "It's just so....so....icky!"[/brittney spears voice]. First of all, that's surgery, not just a shaving thing, or whatever, and second, it's HIS cock.

 

[Texguy84]

She said she wouldn't give him oral because he wasn't circumcised, and that it was "dirty."

IMO, she not only needs an education, she needs to grow up, and realize the world doesn't spin around her. For christ's sake, asking a guy to undergo surgery because [brittney spears voice] "It's just so....so....icky!"[/brittney spears voice]. First of all, that's surgery, not just a shaving thing, or whatever, and second, it's HIS cock.

Aren't we being a wee bit belligerent today?

For what it's worth, she also admitted her misconception six posts before you posted.

And as for the world revolving around her, we all know the world actually revolves around me (within a certain margin of error, of course )

 

[cloudy]

Aren't we being a wee bit belligerent today?

For what it's worth, she also admitted her misconception six posts before you posted.

And as for the world revolving around her, we all know the world actually revolves around me (within a certain margin of error, of course )

Oops, nope, it revolves around my six-year-old.

I'm sorry, it's just that my SO is uncircumcised, and her saying it's "dirty" just pisses me off. How many other unexperienced people are gonna read that, and believe it?

Then, she has the utter gall to convince herself that he should undergo painful, unnecessary surgery because she's too much of a priss to deal with reality?

Yeah, it ticks me off.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Oops, nope, it revolves around my six-year-old.

I'm sorry, it's just that my SO is uncircumcised, and her saying it's "dirty" just pisses me off. How many other unexperienced people are gonna read that, and believe it?

Then, she has the utter gall to convince herself that he should undergo painful, unnecessary surgery because she's too much of a priss to deal with reality?

Yeah, it ticks me off.

What keeps coming back to me is that the foreskin does exist for a reason. Otherwise, it wouldn't be there. One needs a better excuse to fuck with Mother Nature than personal phobias. In my experience, the ordo natura is usually more reliable than some of the ideas that occur to our little species of overgrown chimps.

 

[Texguy84]

Oops, nope, it revolves around my six-year-old.

Heh, the first thing that came to mind for a response here was "How do you know I'm not your six year old? ", but I decided that would be excessively creepy.

Yet I felt obliged to share.

 

[patcat]

She said she wouldn't give him oral because he wasn't circumcised, and that it was "dirty."

...

Was she saying that his cock was dirty, or that she assumed it was dirty because it was uncut?

I think that cut cocks are more attractive. We "are" talking about men and not boys, right? A man doesn't have to drop his pants before you can tell if he is unkept or not.

 

[patcat]

Oops, nope, it revolves around my six-year-old.

I'm sorry, it's just that my SO is uncircumcised, and her saying it's "dirty" just pisses me off. How many other unexperienced people are gonna read that, and believe it?

Then, she has the utter gall to convince herself that he should undergo painful, unnecessary surgery because she's too much of a priss to deal with reality?

Yeah, it ticks me off.

Well, I think that the experience level is at the very least that of an 18 year old. If she doesn't like uncut cocks then that's her thing. I wouldn't dismiss a man because he is uncut, but I would surely like it so much better if he was. I wouldn't be looking into his eyes licking it as if it was a lolly-pop.