New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani

There's a difference between being poor and being someone who is working to make a better city for the poor to live in.

True / Agreed.

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If you demand that anyone who is working for a better city has to BE poor to be authentic, then you're just being silly.

Yeah, I NEVER did that ^. (I DID draw comparisons between DonOld Trump’s background & his pie in the sky promises and Mamdani’s background & his pie in the sky promises, and suggested that there are parallels which led / lead me to believe Mamdani is a similar fraud / charlatan as DonOld Trump - while also ceding that Mamdani is orders of magnitude less fraudulent / corrupt / offensive).

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(And polls estimate about a third of the Jewish voters voted for him)

So 4% of the New York City population who are Jews supported Mamdani…

That ^ actually strengthens my argument against an earlier point others were trying to make about Mamdani’s general popularity (particularly among Jewish New Yorkers).

Mamdani does NOT have a mandate, in New York City. And he (his policies) does NOT have broad / universal appeal among New Yorkers or Americans.

Bottom line:

I don’t hold out much hope for Mamdani and his policies facilitating a change for the better in New York - but at least he is in no position to do as much damage as his fellow privileged fraudster / charlatan, DonOld Trump , has done (and continues to do).

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(And polls estimate about a third of the Jewish voters voted for him)
Here's a good analysis of Mamdani's supporters

The money quotes...
Unsurprisingly, Mamdani, the first Muslim mayor in the city’s history, has routinely been accused of antisemitism from segments of the Democratic and Republican Party establishments, given his advocacy for the Palestinian cause. Regardless, the election results have been used to promote the narrative that Mamdani has little more than marginal support within the Jewish community. But an exit poll of Jewish voters that tells us nothing about their denomination or the wealth of their neighborhood might be missing crucial variables.

A closer block-by-block analysis, in fact, reveals an entirely different story. Whether a voter was Jewish or not turns out to have little to do with their preference for Mamdani or his opponent. Jewish voters, like New York City as a whole, were split between New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani and his erstwhile opponent Andrew Cuomo based on culture, denomination, age, and income. Block-level results show that Jewish voters routinely voted in line with their neighbors.
 
So 4% of the New York City population who are Jews supported Mamdani…

That ^ actually strengthens my argument against an earlier point others were trying to make about Mamdani’s general popularity (particularly among Jewish New Yorkers).

Mamdani does NOT have a mandate, in New York City. And he (his policies) does NOT have broad / universal appeal among New Yorkers or Americans.

Mamdani won a clear plurality of a crowded 11 person field in the first round of the mayoral election: 43.82 % of all ballots cast.

After the third and final round of ranked voting, Mayor Mandami won a clear victory with a certified tally of 56.39% of the votes.

If that's not a "mandate", it's still a solid victory with a broad and universal appeal overall. If over 56% of the final vote is not a "mandate" in your eyes, by all means share with us what you believe constitutes a mandate.
 
Mamdani won a clear plurality of a crowded 11 person field in the first round of the mayoral election: 43.82 % of all ballots cast.

After the third and final round of ranked voting, Mayor Mandami won a clear victory with a certified tally of 56.39% of the votes.

If that's not a "mandate", it's still a solid victory with a broad and universal appeal overall. If over 56% of the final vote is not a "mandate" in your eyes, by all means share with us what you believe constitutes a mandate.

I don’t know where you get your numbers, but the New York Times indicates that Mamdani just cleared 50%…

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Also:

There are over FIVE MILLION registered voters (and even more eligible voters) in New York City, and Mamdani got a little over ONE million votes…

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(And let us NOT forget that Mamdani was running against severely flawed / damaged opponents)…

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A candidate has to do better than Mamdani did under those conditions to claim a mandate…

Just sayin’…

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I don’t know where you get your numbers, but the New York Times indicates that Mamdani just cleared 50%…

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Also:

There are over FIVE MILLION registered voters (and even more eligible voters) in New York City, and Mamdani got a little over ONE million votes…

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(And let us NOT forget that Mamdani was running against severely flawed / damaged opponents)…

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A candidate has to do better than Mamdani did under those conditions to claim a mandate…

Just sayin’…

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We. Told. Them. So.

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  1. The New York Times does not elect mayors. The people of New York do. See that blue text above? That's called a "link", I linked to a site called "Wikipedia" for the official results. Wikipedia, in turn, got their information from the official New York City Board of Elections certified results. The PDF containing the result is here: LINK
  2. I am aware that NYC has FIVE MILLION registered voters. I am also aware that voting in not compulsory in America. The majority of voters opted not to vote, which is quite common in non-presidential election years. Nevertheless, 2.2 million New Yorkers out of the majority of the ONE MILLION voters that did vote, chose Zohran Mamdani for Mayor.
  3. It's worth noting that voter turnout in New York City in 2025 more than DOUBLED over the past election. 2.2 million out of 5.1 million registered voters turned out in 2025 (43% turnout). In the 2021 mayoral election, a scant 1.1 million voters out of a registered populace of 4.9 million voters turned out (23% turnout)
  4. Your analysis that Mamdani won against "flawed" and/or "damaged" is subjective. It reflects the will of the people in New York. Democracy is not perfect.
  5. I asked you to provide a metric to define what, in your mind, constitutes a "mandate". Your reply was an amorphous "must do better". You seem unable to quantify what constitutes a "mandate'. (side note: Is the standard for "mandate" higher in your mind for Islamic candidates?)
Overall, your replies were generally weak and evasive. I won't call it "sealioning", but I think it's pretty clear you're venturing into "gaslighting" territory. I urge you to raise the standard of rhetoric, and stay out of the "This I believe!" alternate-fact swamp that Islamophobic bigots such as BrightShinyGirl and JustGenocideJeff inhabit.

.....or if you want to engage in swapping personal insults, I'm game for that as well.
 
  1. The New York Times does not elect mayors. The people of New York do. See that blue text above? That's called a "link", I linked to a site called "Wikipedia" for the official results. Wikipedia, in turn, got their information from the official New York City Board of Elections certified results. The PDF containing the result is here: LINK
  2. I am aware that NYC has FIVE MILLION registered voters. I am also aware that voting in not compulsory in America. The majority of voters opted not to vote, which is quite common in non-presidential election years. Nevertheless, 2.2 million New Yorkers out of the majority of the ONE MILLION voters that did vote, chose Zohran Mamdani for Mayor.
  3. It's worth noting that voter turnout in New York City in 2025 more than DOUBLED over the past election. 2.2 million out of 5.1 million registered voters turned out in 2025 (43% turnout). In the 2021 mayoral election, a scant 1.1 million voters out of a registered populace of 4.9 million voters turned out (23% turnout)
  4. Your analysis that Mamdani won against "flawed" and/or "damaged" is subjective. It reflects the will of the people in New York. Democracy is not perfect.
  5. I asked you to provide a metric to define what, in your mind, constitutes a "mandate". Your reply was an amorphous "must do better". You seem unable to quantify what constitutes a "mandate'. (side note: Is the standard for "mandate" higher in your mind for Islamic candidates?)
. I urge you to raise the standard of rhetoric, and stay out of the "This I believe!" alternate-fact swamp that Islamophobic bigots such as BrightShinyGirl and JustGenocideJeff inhabit.

.....or if you want to engage in swapping personal insults, I'm game for that as well.

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Better double-check your numbers, Rob…

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Zohran Mamdani won the 2025 New York City mayoral election with approximately 50.4% of the vote, defeating Andrew Cuomo, who received around 42%, and Curtis Sliwa, who garnered about 7%. This election saw over 2 million ballots cast, marking the highest turnout for a New York City mayoral election since 1969.
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The “56%” win margin you cite appears to be from the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY election - AFTER the rank choice system used for the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY eliminated all the candidates except for Mamdani & Cuomo:

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Zohran Mamdani won the Democratic primary for New York City mayor with 56% of the ranked choice votes, defeating Andrew Cuomo, who received 44%. This result was confirmed after the New York City Board of Elections completed the ranked choice voting tabulations.
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And WTAF (from your bullet point #2):

“Nevertheless, 2.2 million New Yorkers out of the majority of the ONE MILLION voters that did vote, chose Zohran Mamdani for Mayor.”

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Your third attempt at a rebuttal is weak af: The turnout was as much about things OTHER THAN Mamdani as it was about Mamdani.

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Your fourth attempt at…something …was beyond weak af. My original point stands: Mamdani’s opponents in the GENERAL election WERE in fact SEVERELY flawed / damaged.

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Your fifth attempt at…something… is waaaay beyond weak af (practically in “Nuh-uuuuuh” territory): I clearly articulated the reasons why I concluded that Mamdani did NOT deserve to claim he had a mandate.

#NoMandateMamdani

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Bottom line:

Mamdani had to do better than he did under the conditions / circumstances in order to claim a mandate; full stop. And now Mamdani is proceeding like he DOES have a mandate - which is very Trumpian…

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Side note:

Your entire post reeks of misinformation, intellectual dishonesty, deflection, and lack of objectivity.

“Overall, your replies were generally weak and evasive. I won't call it "sealioning", but I think it's pretty clear you're venturing into "gaslighting" territory”.

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Well, Lazaran, you are correct and I was mistaken. Mamdani still won the election outright, which speaks to his popularity, "mandate" notwithstanding.

He took the office despite a myriad of factors stacked against him, including wealthy landowners, the Democratic AND Republican leadership allied against him, Zionist extremists and the Pro-Israeli New York press corps.

He persevered, and he won.

It became obvious that none of the above factions are willing to concede defeat, for example the Wall Street Journal on January 1st sniffed that "Mayor Mamdani doesn't realize clock is ticking".

I recognize that you and the usual totally-not-Jewish-nuh-uh-not-US Zionists on this board seem to be determined to undermine the man at every conceivable opportunity, which was exemplified by the human cockroach pointing out the "BIG" increase in bus fares.

The bottom line is New York City held a referendum on Israel's genocide....and elected a Muslim candidate in the city containing the largest concentration outside of Israel in the world. Your side lost. As a result, Mayor Mamdani now represents an existential threat to Zionist conquest.

As long as you and your fellow travelers support government policies starving innocent civilian children, you forfeit the moral high ground.

The Israel spring genocide campaign is about to kick off, Israel has violated the terms of the "ceasefire" agreement again already (kicked out foreign aid workers and confiscated relief supplies). I suggest you find another rationalization for killing civilians, as "but but teh hostages", which Netanyahu cheerfully admitted was never the reason for the ethnic cleansing, no longer applies.

See ya in the trenches!
 
(I DID draw comparisons between DonOld Trump’s background & his pie in the sky promises and Mamdani’s background & his pie in the sky promises, and suggested that there are parallels which led / lead me to believe Mamdani is a similar fraud / charlatan as DonOld Trump - while also ceding that Mamdani is orders of magnitude less fraudulent / corrupt / offensive).

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So 4% of the New York City population who are Jews supported Mamdani…

That ^ actually strengthens my argument against an earlier point others were trying to make about Mamdani’s general popularity (particularly among Jewish New Yorkers).

Mamdani does NOT have a mandate, in New York City. And he (his policies) does NOT have broad / universal appeal among New Yorkers or Americans.

Bottom line:

I don’t hold out much hope for Mamdani and his policies facilitating a change for the better in New York - but at least he is in no position to do as much damage as his fellow privileged fraudster / charlatan, DonOld Trump , has done (and continues to do).

😳 😑 🤬

We. Told. Them. So.

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Your position on Mamdani seems to involve complaining that he is middle class rather than poor and that only about a third of the Jews in New York City voted for him.

Mamdani did win an absolute majority of the votes in a three-way race (several minor candidates received less than 1% of the total), defeating former governor Andrew Cuomo by more than nine percentage points.

In light of all that, calling the man a "charlatan" or a "fraud" who "does NOT have a mandate" seems just silly.

Perhaps his policies won't work. Perhaps President Trump will try to strangle New York City by withholding funds appropriated by Congress for infrastructure and health care and by filing frivolous lawsuits. Or even demanding that his "Justice" Department seek an indictment of the Mayor himself!

And, of course, his policies will still have to be approved by the City Council.

But he was elected, fair and square, and although his policies may lack "universal" appeal (what would "universal" be? A 95% vote count? 99%?), the voters do indeed back him and his policies, as they've shown by their votes.
 
Your position on Mamdani seems to involve complaining that he is middle class rather than poor and that only about a third of the Jews in New York City voted for him.

MY “position” on Mamdani is so much more than that ^ - and I have articulated that position in previous posts.

Mamdani did win an absolute majority of the votes in a three-way race (several minor candidates received less than 1% of the total), defeating former governor Andrew Cuomo by more than nine percentage points.

As I told Rob: Mamdani got one million votes out of FIVE MILLION registered voters in the GENERAL election - against SEVERELY flawed / damaged opponents (and just over 50% of the overall vote). Color me NOT impressed (NOT accepting that Mamdani received a mandate).

In light of all that, calling the man a "charlatan" or a "fraud" who "does NOT have a mandate" seems just silly.

“In light of” ALL of my ACTUAL data points about Mamdani AND his "mandate", I find you silly for forming a conclusion based on inaccurate information (assumptions).

Perhaps his policies won't work. Perhaps President Trump will try to strangle New York City by withholding funds appropriated by Congress for infrastructure and health care and by filing frivolous lawsuits. Or even demanding that his "Justice" Department seek an indictment of the Mayor himself!

And, of course, his policies will still have to be approved by the City Council.

But he was elected, fair and square, and although his policies may lack "universal" appeal (what would "universal" be? A 95% vote count? 99%?), the voters do indeed back him and his policies, as they've shown by their votes.

I’m going to say this one last time:

Mamdani is a lot like Trump in certain ways when it comes to his upbringing / advantages, his cult of personality, his experience in / qualifications for governing, his pie in the sky promises, and his "mandate" (Trump won with 50% of the vote in 2024 - did / does Trump really have a mandate, and did / do Trump’s policies have BROAD / universal appeal???)

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Yes, Trump is / has ALREADY PROVEN TO BE orders of magnitude worse than Mamdani (or any other American politician -living OR dead), but Trump is NOT “a high bar” in my book.: Trump is the lowest bar (and Mamdani has cleared that lowest bar easily), and Mamdani must now prove he’s worthy of his position.

Mamdani is off to a bad start, imho.

YMMV.

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But it was not until after Rudy Giuliani was elected in 1993 that the cops were effectively deployed.

Putting into practice the theory of “Broken Windows,” the mayor and top cop Bill Bratton proved that addressing signs of vandalism and disorder would help prevent more serious crimes.
While that's a good idea in theory, the implementation was more than a little bit racist. The Broken Windows Policy was enforced a lot more harshly in poor minority neighborhoods. And that was just the tip of the iceberg.

Like I always say, one of the very few silver linings of Trump's pathetic romp on the national stage is that it stripped Guiliani of his "America's Mayor" sheen and everyone saw the truth behind the mask for a change.
 
While that's a good idea in theory, the implementation was more than a little bit racist. The Broken Windows Policy was enforced a lot more harshly in poor minority neighborhoods. And that was just the tip of the iceberg.

Like I always say, one of the very few silver linings of Trump's pathetic romp on the national stage is that it stripped Guiliani of his "America's Mayor" sheen and everyone saw the truth behind the mask for a change.
Ishmael's faithful situationally Indian companion AJ may have followed Skyfather to the Happy Hunting Ground, but his legacy of spluttering 'but...but....BROKEN WINDOWS!" remains.
 
I don’t think anyone should be judging the new mayor just 7 days into his term in office. 😄

No one should make a FINAL judgment…

Assessing (judging) Mamdani (his background, election mandate,
etc) AND his initial actions as Mayor is perfectly reasonable.

“First impressions” and all…

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