Obama: Voter ID Laws Do Not Stop 'our Folks' From Voting

Don't know about any where else but where I live voter id was voted in to stop all of the dead people and illegals from voting. Something needs to be done when there are many 120 year old people voting. When their are more votes in an area than there are people living, including children.
One man I know was surprised to see his mother voted right in front of him. He hadn't seen her since she died.
Did he turn her in? If not, why not?
 

In your link, it specifically says that the provinces of Quebec and Alberta were excluded from the survey. That's 43% of the Canadian population right there. Mighty fine survey you've linked to.

In any event, we both agree that somewhere between one tenth of one percent (me) and one percent (you) of the Canadian population seeks medical care here in the good ole USA.

Where we disagree is whether or not this miniscule number is to be considered worthy of shitting ones pants over.

I don't think it is.
 
Don't know about any where else but where I live voter id was voted in to stop all of the dead people and illegals from voting. Something needs to be done when there are many 120 year old people voting. When their are more votes in an area than there are people living, including children.
One man I know was surprised to see his mother voted right in front of him. He hadn't seen her since she died.

Please share with us some links documentin' all the dead people and illegals voting in your town.

If you cannot, please know that you are a god damned liar.
 
Did he turn her in? If not, why not?

He told them but the other person was not there. They did not throw the vote out. It isn't an unusual in Ms.
Just another day at the voting booth.
It isn't unusual for a bus load of elderly people from a rest home to be hauled in to vote. Mist do not know where they are or what for. Of course someone will go in with them to show them how to vote.
Sometimes they will find ballot boxes thrown away without being counted.

Right now there is a lawsuit in court complaining about democrats being paid to vote in a republican primary. They have the names of the people. The person who paid them. How much they were paid. One of the lawyers in the law suit knows it happened as he and his wife were two that did it.
 
Please share with us some links documentin' all the dead people and illegals voting in your town.

If you cannot, please know that you are a god damned liar.

Fuck you. You stupid bastard. If you are that dumb that you think voting is honest you are too ignorant to read it.
If you want links get off your ass and look them up.
It isn't my problem that you are a fool.
 
You can keep believing that i you like but it's not true. Honestly if your mom has been dead that long and you haven't removed her from the polls yourself you should be held responsible for whatever happens.
 
Don't know about any where else but where I live voter id was voted in to stop all of the dead people and illegals from voting. Something needs to be done when there are many 120 year old people voting. When their are more votes in an area than there are people living, including children.
One man I know was surprised to see his mother voted right in front of him. He hadn't seen her since she died.


Hi, JBJ.
 

The cowardly Marine, who routinely retreats to the Ignore Bunker, offers up data hidden behind a paywall. Ironic, no?

Let's see here...270 "dead" voters over two dozen elections in Nassau county over two decades. That averages out to a whoppin 11 votes per election.

My good friends at Wikipedia report the population of Nassau county at 1.3 million people, and the number of folks actually voting (pay attention here, numbnuts, I said actually voting, not registered to vote) has exceeded 500,000 every single presidential election since 1960.

As the article says, that number is statistically insignificant. 11 out of 500,000? I doubt even YOU could get pants-shitting upset over this.

The last time you tried to pass off some of these nontroversies as "fact", we discovered that the "dead" folks voting actually voted absentee in advance of the election but then subsequently died prior to election day. By law, we pointed out, those votes still count. As I recall, you utilized your Marine training to tuck tail and run when that little fact was explained to you. (Hey, it beat admitting you were *gasp* wrong again!)

Keep tryin' and lyin'!
 
The obtuse continue to miss the point. When you have no way to ID who is voting and no database of valid photo ID's to check the voting rolls against, you have no means of checking for fraud. The fact that the fraud that is most certainly going on is on rare occasions ferreted out is a miracle.

MEXICO manages to have relatively honest elections with photo ID.

Those that claim it is happening so infrequently as to have no impact on elections have to believe that Democrats since the Daley Machine days found religion and decided they would "play fair," because: freedom. Chicago Democrats put John Kennedy into the White House through out-right theft of the election. "Vote early and often," was (and is) not just a wry joke.

That the advent of technological resources poses no advantages in generating fraudulent votes while none of that technology is used to secure the vote.

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Appropo of nothing in particular, I wonder how one would go about finding a surly Marine Recruiter that worked in or around Atlanta in the early eighties. I'd love to know how he worded that rejection that caused so much butt-hurt 30+ years later.

Mine just smiled and politely pointed, "The Navy is down the hall----->"
 
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No, they play fair because the risk reward ratio doesn't play out. It's like having a guy sit in the stands at the NBA finals with a laser pointer to blind the away team. Sure you could but it's just not worth it.
 
The obtuse continue to miss the point. When you have no way to ID who is voting and no database of valid photo ID's to check the voting rolls against, you have no means of checking for fraud. The fact that the fraud that is most certainly going on is on rare occasions ferreted out is a miracle.

MEXICO manages to have relatively honest elections with photo ID.

Those that claim it is happening so infrequently as to have no impact on elections have to believe that Democrats since the Daley Machine days found religion and decided they would "play fair," because: freedom. Chicago Democrats put John Kennedy into the White House through out-right theft of the election. "Vote early and often," was (and is) not just a wry joke.

That the advent of technological resources poses no advantages in generating fraudulent votes while none of that technology is used to secure the vote.

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Appropo of nothing in particular, I wonder how one would go about finding a surly Marine Recruiter that worked in or around Atlanta in the early eighties. I'd love to know how he worded that rejection that caused so much butt-hurt 30+ years later.

Mine just smiled and politely pointed, "The Navy is down the hall----->"

Well, q, that was in 1960, 54 years ago. That kinda sounds like "infrequent" to me. The closest we've come to something as egregious as that was in 2000, when we allowed nine politically partisan judges to choose our president, after tens of millions of citizens had already voted. In different ways, both parties have won the presidency by losing.
 
Well, q, that was in 1960, 54 years ago. That kinda sounds like "infrequent" to me. The closest we've come to something as egregious as that was in 2000, when we allowed nine politically partisan judges to choose our president, after tens of millions of citizens had already voted. In different ways, both parties have won the presidency by losing.

That was just the most noteworthy example. Ohio was stolen in the last election. That alone wouldn't have made the difference but if there is enough fraud to swing an entire state (and there is) then voting is meaningless. We have no idea which of Ohio's votes were invalid but precincts having higher turnout than residents is definitely fraud.

There is only one side saying "Do not pay any attention to the man behind the curtain."

They alternate between saying "ID is prohibitively onerous", to "ID will not prevent fraud", but are consistent in exclaiming that there is no fraud when the plain fact is we do not know the extent of it and cannot know without an election you can actually audit for live, eligible voters.

Once you get ID in place, you require that all absentee and early ballots be picked up in person. You keep track of drivers license numbers and each license gets one vote. In the future (possibly now in some areas) having multiple IDs will be impossible because of facial recognition software.

The fact that only ONE party claims that verified voting harms them by this plan is illuminating.
 
No, they play fair because the risk reward ratio doesn't play out. It's like having a guy sit in the stands at the NBA finals with a laser pointer to blind the away team. Sure you could but it's just not worth it.

The risk to the guy that came in with 200 ballots that may or may not be actual eligible voters is nil. There is currently no way to check.
 
Gods forbid people should have to prove that they are ELIGIBLE to vote! Oh, and btw, last I checked, you are not supposed to be naturalized until proficient in English, so why should keeping non-citizens away from the polls be considered a bad thing?

Of course, these are also the people who believe that felons should be allowed to vote. :rolleyes:
 
Don't know about any where else but where I live voter id was voted in to stop all of the dead people and illegals from voting. Something needs to be done when there are many 120 year old people voting. When their are more votes in an area than there are people living, including children.
One man I know was surprised to see his mother voted right in front of him. He hadn't seen her since she died.

Criminals don't follow laws. Voter ID won't stop a single one of the things you mentioned from happening.
 
You can keep believing that i you like but it's not true. Honestly if your mom has been dead that long and you haven't removed her from the polls yourself you should be held responsible for whatever happens.

In Ms. they do not remove people from the polls. There isn't any way a person can do it.
 
No, they play fair because the risk reward ratio doesn't play out. It's like having a guy sit in the stands at the NBA finals with a laser pointer to blind the away team. Sure you could but it's just not worth it.

Why wouldn't it be worth it.
The chance of getting caught is almost zero.
Probably about the same as getting a speeding ticket in the Daytona 500.
 
Gods forbid people should have to prove that they are ELIGIBLE to vote! Oh, and btw, last I checked, you are not supposed to be naturalized until proficient in English, so why should keeping non-citizens away from the polls be considered a bad thing?

Of course, these are also the people who believe that felons should be allowed to vote. :rolleyes:

Did you know in some places when they release a person from prison they include a voter registration card in the packet they receive?
 
This is different from the gun issue, which is impossible to truly regulate or control (even leaving aside the unconstitutionality of any kind of gun control laws), in that people at the polls have some means of limiting access by criminals and illegal voters in general to the polls.
 
I'm sure he meant to say "those people."

Don't put words in my mouth. This is about citizenship and the lawful vs. unlawful exercise of the franchise, not about race. Non-citizens have no business voting in American elections, period. None. I don't care if they're from Ireland. They have no right to cast a ballot for a US election until they are naturalized, period.
 
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