Sarah Palin

[jeninflorida]

again you don't even know me and you make the attack personal....sorry but I do not watch Fox....

can you just not see reality that you have to make it personal?

in a way i'm very jealous that I'm just not as blind as others. thank god that we don't follow the sheep and live a very good life.

Nahh, she doesn't need evidence.

She just - knows. Divine inspiration.

She closes her eyes, says ohm, turns on Fox News, and the truth is revealed. (Along with multiple talking points.)

I think I hear the angels singing now.

 

[jeninflorida]

nope Tim Robbins will take the lead with Barbra Streisand taking a small back ground role

Holy Movie Casting, Batman!

Cunt Woman! It's perfect. Tim Burton is sure to be all over that.

Copyright that, Safe, and be sure to demand a royalty and screen credit.

 

[jeninflorida]

I would be curous to know what income brackets poeple are in...and how secure people feel about his or her job

It really sounds like you're just jealous and bitter that you haven't been tasked by God with this noble purpose.

 

[Guest]

It really sounds like you're just jealous and bitter that you haven't been tasked by God with this noble purpose.

Ya think?

 

[jeninflorida]

Ya think?

Remember just like the good old days in Chicago vote early and vote often till you get the results you need. Oh wait, we have Dailey Jr in Chicago just having fun

This is the best day ever!

 

[Huckleman2000]

sorry but part of the issue was based on the Dems....the dems made changes and wanted to boost the number of Americans who owned home.....it was the freaking dems that started made changes with Freddie and Fannie so that 80% or more us could own our own home. granted that was a nice idea, but welfare and unemployment should not be a measure of income

You didn't even address my post. I said nothing about the latest financial industry bailout - that appears to be the straw that broke the elephant's back, but it's just emblematic of the entire bankrupt Republican philosophy.

Search for blame if you must, but Greenspan and 2 other former true-believers told Congress and the American people last week that what you just posted above had little to do with the meltdown, even if you'd stated it accurately.

Again, your pathetic attempts to find Democratic equivalence with Republican failure come across as desperate, not reasonable.

 

[jeninflorida]

lol you missed the point and its so sad that your unable to see the truth.

You didn't even address my post. I said nothing about the latest financial industry bailout - that appears to be the straw that broke the elephant's back, but it's just emblematic of the entire bankrupt Republican philosophy.

Search for blame if you must, but Greenspan and 2 other former true-believers told Congress and the American people last week that what you just posted above had little to do with the meltdown, even if you'd stated it accurately.

Again, your pathetic attempts to find Democratic equivalence with Republican failure come across as desperate, not reasonable.

 

[Huckleman2000]

lol you missed the point and its so sad that your unable to see the truth.

I think you meant "you're".

 

[jeninflorida]

what ever helps you...you're... sleep at night

I think you meant "you're".

 

[starrkers]

lol you missed the point and its so sad that your unable to see the truth.

Jen, can you show me? Please? I'm not being facetious, Australian media is pretty solidly pro-Obama, I'd like to see the other side.

 

[amicus]

Not sure how many are vintage enough to remember the Reagan years and how he was criticized, in much the same fashion as Palin, as being unprepared for governance at any level.

She is not the Presidential candidate, but as I said in another thread, she may provide the charisma and communicative skills to the vast unwashed masses, as Reagan did, to swing that silent majority to the Republican ballot.

Further, in case I did not understand your question Staarkers, Palin extemporaneously explains the American dream in terms people can understand and relate to.

That 'American Dream', is basically the Protestant work ethic, if you are honest and work hard you can achieve anything you wish in a free nation, there is no class structure and anyone can be a millionaire.

It is not 'forty acres and a mule', anymore, rather one or two guys in a basement, the foundation for Microsoft, Mac, Yahoo and Google, all started by penniless grad students in their parents garages...

That is not a possibility in a Euro type social democracy or the Australian form of government and you well know it.

Amicus...

 

[starrkers]

Thanks Ami, but I'm hoping someone is going to give me something concrete on the good side of McCain's campaign. Not just that he and Palin are good at offering warm and fuzzy feelings.

Jeninflorida said that Huckleman had missed the point and couldn't see the truth in saying

You didn't even address my post. I said nothing about the latest financial industry bailout - that appears to be the straw that broke the elephant's back, but it's just emblematic of the entire bankrupt Republican philosophy.

Search for blame if you must, but Greenspan and 2 other former true-believers told Congress and the American people last week that what you just posted above had little to do with the meltdown, even if you'd stated it accurately.

Again, your pathetic attempts to find Democratic equivalence with Republican failure come across as desperate, not reasonable.

I'd like her to address that statement in detail, as what Huckleman said is basically what I'm hearing out here.

 

[amicus]

Haven't been up this late for a while...since I used to chat with a gal in Melbourne and she seldom came on until four or five am my time, what thirteen hours difference between us? It is going on one thirty am here.

Harrumph, warm and fuzzy didja say? Yeah, I guess you could see it that way.

In the past forty to fifty years, the United States has undergone some very fundamental changes in the social strata.

There are, to my way of viewing it, three different categories, the civil rights movement, the feminist movement, and the single parent explosion.

The civil rights movement, along with forced integration and quota systems and preferential treatment for blacks in housing, jobs, education, has become the territory of the Democrat Party as they realized that black votes counted just as much as white votes. Along with labor unions, the lower class black population was increasingly represented by the Democrats and to shorten this, extended into Democrats in Congress setting policy that coerced the lending institutions, Fannie Mae and later Freddie Mac, to lower the standards for borrowers on home mortgages.

It was an across the board push to provide more education, more jobs and more housing for African Americans after centuries of being excluded from mainstream America.

From the Democrats point of view, this was a legitimate use of government power and influence. Many Americans do not agree that the 'Affirmative Action' legislation was legal or proper or needed.

There have been many waves of immigrants who came to these shores and were left to make it on their own. The stories of Irish and German and Dutch immigrants, arriving penniless, will tear your heart out, but they made it and assimilated into society.

Being black sets a person apart no matter where in the world one lives and a great many people regret that black people have been second class citizens in practically every country in the world.

I have no answers to that fact, none at all. But forcing a white population to accept blacks in their schools and homes and on the job, has left a very sour note among many. Again, I offer no defense for that and no explanation.

So, African Americans, single women with children, and other minorities, who, without Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, Federal Home loans, would never be able to qualify for a home or even an automobile loan unless the lending standards were reduced.

One would have to have more intimate knowledge about the financial world than I to present a skeleton outline of how the major lending institutions became involved and how it spread world wide with packaged mortgages and all that, some very knowledgeable people on this forum have laid it out in some detail if you care to check them out.

There is a familiar saying, "No good deed goes unpunished." which might apply to the millions of people who were granted loans, the terms of which they did not understand and could not fulfill and who are now in jeopardy of losing their homes, cars and jobs.

My sense of truth in the matter....is that you cannot give freedom or independence to anyone...you can only permit, allow, or protect their right to achieve it on their own.

Everyone knows about the rich kids who were born with a silver spoon and did not appreciate and soon squandered what the previous generation had provided. Those who were given the help of the government to establish themselves in society, instead of earning it, as former minority groups did, are quite like the rich kid...they don't appreciate or value the opportunity when it is given and not earned.

Again, to irritate everyone who reads this, I again insist that only a free market place, without government coersion or control, can provide both the moral imperative and the wealth of productive people to create a society that is by choice mutually beneficial to all who participate.

The free market, the American lifestyle and basic beliefs and assumptions are complex and I have already gone on too long and I can already hear the complaints about the poor and helpless who have no place to turn.

You may not know that Americans are very charitable people...not only through their church affiliations which support orphanages and schools for children who have no parents, but a wide range of physical and mental institutions for those who cannot provide for themselves.

They have done so for centuries, without taxation and without the heavy hand of government forcing them to do so. It is part of the moral atmosphere that emerges when free people mutually and freely cooperate with each other.

That too, has been changing over the past half century as the old nuclear family has disintegrated and the social atmosphere has changed greatly....

I gotta stop sometime....gads....sorry...

Amicus...

 

[starrkers]

It's just gone 8pm here.

I still don't see any concrete policy in anything you said. It's still emotion - mom's apple pie and the grand old flag - and your opinions and hopes.

With all due respect, it's not your words I want right now. I want to know what McCain says he will do. Not what he claims will happen if Obama wins (which is all I have heard about McCain), but what will happen if he wins.

 

[amicus]

Hmmm...okay...coinkydink intervenes as the film, "The Man who sued God" is on, seeing it for the first time....written by an Irishman, with an Australian lead actor and filmed downunder since they mentioned Perth....wonder if you might have seen it...really like the actor, hmmmm...seems like the link to the imdb movie site went away....you may know his name....g'nite...

ami

 

[Pure]

hasselbeck intro to palin

nice little stump speech in its own right.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/26/sassy-hasselbeck-criticis_n_137983.html

 

[epiphany65]

Hmmm...okay...coinkydink intervenes as the film, "The Man who sued God" is on, seeing it for the first time....written by an Irishman, with an Australian lead actor and filmed downunder since they mentioned Perth....wonder if you might have seen it...really like the actor, hmmmm...seems like the link to the imdb movie site went away....you may know his name....g'nite...

ami

I'd never heard of the movie but was intrigued by the title and did a search. It stars Billy Connolly. He's Scottish and funny as hell. Check out some of his stand-up videos if you get the chance. He also played a high school teacher in a short-lived US sitcom that I forget the title of. Here's more about the movie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Sued_God

 

[Safe_Bet]

It's just gone 8pm here.

I still don't see any concrete policy in anything you said. It's still emotion - mom's apple pie and the grand old flag - and your opinions and hopes.

With all due respect, it's not your words I want right now. I want to know what McCain says he will do. Not what he claims will happen if Obama wins (which is all I have heard about McCain), but what will happen if he wins.

Hmmm...okay...coinkydink intervenes as the film, "The Man who sued God" is on, seeing it for the first time....written by an Irishman, with an Australian lead actor and filmed downunder since they mentioned Perth....wonder if you might have seen it...really like the actor, hmmmm...seems like the link to the imdb movie site went away....you may know his name....g'nite...

ami

Wow, Ami! That was a GREAT answer to Starrkers questions. In other words "I ain't got NOTHIN'..."

 

[cloudy]

Sarah Palin supporter screams "he's a nigger!" Wait in vain for any kind of rebuke from St. Sarah.

She fucking disgusts me.

 

[rgraham666]

Did the guy look like this?

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Sarah Palin supporter screams "he's a nigger!" Wait in vain for any kind of rebuke from St. Sarah.

She fucking disgusts me.

OMG... Right around 0:40... jeez. I'm glad this thing is ending November 4.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Did the guy look like this?

Muahahahaha! That's one of my all time favorite movies!

The guy on the roof is how I've always pictured JBJ! A coincidence that they BOTH have the name Johnson? I think NOT!

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

Bump for a reason

 

[cloudy]

Bump for a reason

What...you're finally as embarrassed by her as the rest of us are? I mean, fuck...she gives "dumb American" a whole new depth.

I mean...shit, if she's the best the repugs have to offer as far as leadership goes, that's embarrassing as hell for y'all. What does that say about the rest of you?

I feel bad for you.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Perhaps the last things we'll hear about her on a national level...

NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin's shopping spree at high-end department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While publicly supporting Palin, McCain's top advisers privately fumed at what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent "tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books.

and

Palin launched her attack on Obama's association with William Ayers, the former Weather Underground bomber, before the campaign had finalized a plan to raise the issue. McCain's advisers were working on a strategy that they hoped to unveil the following week, but McCain had not signed off on it, and top adviser Mark Salter was resisting.

and

At the GOP convention in St. Paul, Palin was completely unfazed by the boys' club fraternity she had just joined. One night, Steve Schmidt and Mark Salter went to her hotel room to brief her. After a minute, Palin sailed into the room wearing nothing but a towel, with another on her wet hair. She told them to chat with her laconic husband, Todd. "I'll be just a minute," she said.