so i finally saw secretary

[Vinde]

I saw it last night after reading the posts here and i thought it was an a great movie. The ending was so good.

 

[InnerDarkness]

I watched this movie for the first time about 2 weeks ago, and I was ENTHRALLED! I can not explain how much I enjoyed it...I even blogged about it that day....I was so into the details of how they went about discovering themselves!

Ah...i wish to say more, but dont want to ruin anything for anyone out there who hasnt seen it...

but a huge DITTO on the tree scene Etoile...totally loved that black dress too

And don't wait for cable...it is worth the rental...i most likely will just buy the damned thing

 

[Richard49]

I got to find someone to watch it with
some how
some way

 

[InnerDarkness]

I got to find someone to watch it with
some how
some way

I watched it alone....and I loved it...

of course, I do not have anyone here in the flesh that can share this experience with me, but I know that my Sir from online was watching that week as well...and we compared notes somewhat...

but the actual WATCHING of it, I did alone and thoroughly enjoyed...I even took notes!!! *grin*

 

[Richard49]

I watched it alone....and I loved it...

of course, I do not have anyone here in the flesh that can share this experience with me, but I know that my Sir from online was watching that week as well...and we compared notes somewhat...

but the actual WATCHING of it, I did alone and thoroughly enjoyed...I even took notes!!! *grin*

as a couple of us posted earlier
we do not do movies or restrants alone

 

[InnerDarkness]

as a couple of us posted earlier
we do not do movies or restrants alone

yes, I read that.

I don't mind movies alone...just not in the theatre...but dining out....not really confident enough for that one yet.

Company is of course always preferred.

 

[Daddyslilpet]

I also bought the dvd, and viewed it alone at home. I can't wait for Master to return so we can watch it together some night.

dixi

 

[InnerDarkness]

I also bought the dvd, and viewed it alone at home. I can't wait for Master to return so we can watch it together some night.

dixi

When my Sir comes to visit me next week, you can count on watching this movie again to be one of the things we do!!

 

[Arden]

I rented the video and watched it alone, although I may watch it again with Soron when he visits in early July.

I liked many things about the film, but disliked some things as well. Seeing how there are few BDSM movies to choose from, I didn't care for the fact that she was initially portrayed as a weak young woman with an alcoholic father, and a cutter. I think that does an injustice to those of us that are strong women, and choose to be involved in the lifestyle out of choice - not circumstance.

If the 'nilla world sees the film, they're going to see all submissives in this manner. Yes, some of us have had experiences in life that led us here, but just as many have explored BDSM without a negative factor leading them to it. Does it matter how others view us? I'll just say that I dislike stereotyping in general.

I also saw him as being a very confused, reluctant Dominant. That did nothing for me, personally. He frustrated me more than she did by being a brat to achieve what she wanted. She did get what she wanted in the end, but the journey seemed slightly unrealistic.

I did love both the bathtub and tree scenes, though. Who wouldn't? *Grins*

 

[Justina123]

I also saw him as being a very confused, reluctant Dominant. That did nothing for me, personally. He frustrated me more than she did by being a brat to achieve what she wanted.

Arden, I actually really liked the fact that they showed Mr. Gray as having to do some soul searching and self questioning about his kinky self. My Sir has told me that he did the same when he first got involved in bdsm...after all, wanting to spank, whip, etc. your partner is not something generally thought normal and acceptable. There is often quite a bit said about submissive soul searching about their kinkiness, but very little about Dominants.

On the other hand, I agree that it's too bad the movie portrayed the sub as having been a cutter, etc. But in my opinion, the overall fun and positiveness of the movie towards D/s, the fact that you come away liking the main characters quite a bit, and the implied "They lived happily ever after" ending more than made up for it.

- justina

 

[InnerDarkness]

I rather liked how the movie used their sexuality and their sexual practices as a catalyst for the individuals to explore their own lives on a broader basis.

You see Edward go from being fairly sniveling and quite unsure about things at the beginning, to being more comfortable with himself and his role at the end...and obviously you can see the changes in Lee throughout the movie.

I dont agree with how the movie portrayed the "curing" of the cutting either...but for these 2 people, exploring their sexuality and discovering who they are on those levels had a positive impact on the rest of their lives and personality traits as well.

 

[Richard49]

There are at lest three threads here on cutters and BDSM
they are well worth the read

 

[bunny bondage]

i liked the fact that the dom was portrayed as unsure and confused. doms are people too, and if they don't have the advantage of a little community like ours, i can easily see how they might think something was seriously wrong with them.

 

[Richard49]

i liked the fact that the dom was portrayed as unsure and confused. doms are people too, and if they don't have the advantage of a little community like ours, i can easily see how they might think something was seriously wrong with them.

yes we are
yes we would

damn I got to find someone to watch this movie with

 

[MasterNico]

i don't think that it's going to come on cable...so just go rent it!

Actually, you can get it on pay per view here in Orlando. We all watched it there first, then we went and bought the DVD. And some red sharpies

 

[Arden]

I also saw him as being a very confused, reluctant Dominant. That did nothing for me, personally. He frustrated me more than she did by being a brat to achieve what she wanted.

Arden, I actually really liked the fact that they showed Mr. Gray as having to do some soul searching and self questioning about his kinky self. My Sir has told me that he did the same when he first got involved in bdsm...after all, wanting to spank, whip, etc. your partner is not something generally thought normal and acceptable. There is often quite a bit said about submissive soul searching about their kinkiness, but very little about Dominants.

On the other hand, I agree that it's too bad the movie portrayed the sub as having been a cutter, etc. But in my opinion, the overall fun and positiveness of the movie towards D/s, the fact that you come away liking the main characters quite a bit, and the implied "They lived happily ever after" ending more than made up for it.

- justina

What caused me to think his behavior was odd was that he was already known to be of the dominant persuasion. Someone walked by her and mumbled 'submissive' not long after she'd taken the job... as if all of his secretaries possibly were. I can't remember if it was the ex, or possibly the paralegal. So, I wondered why he was being reluctant to dominate her, personally. I think it would have benefited the viewers if they found a way to explain why he was like that, since they spent a good deal of time getting into her background.

I actually enjoyed the movie. I just wish they'd gone into more detail about him... what made him tick. That's all.




*Heading out to the garden to look for a worm*

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

For those who might be interested in some more in-depth discussions of this movie and its pyschology, here are the threads....

Begun by Netzach:

Late in coming, and bottom's credo

Begun by Pure:

Did you cut or harm yourself?

These can be found in the Library under the category Pop Culture & BDSM and are x-ref'd to Psychology as well, where there are a few more threads on cutting and BDSM.

It was a great film that sparked a lot of intense and wonderful discussion on this Board. Happy reading.

~anelize

 

[Desdemona]

Well, I watched it with my 74 year old Mom yesterday. I really liked the movie, all things considered. Watching it with Mom was odd though. She kept saying "Those people are so weird!"

LOL I just smiled and kept my mouth shut. She has apparently forgotten the conversation where I came out to her about my interest in D/s and bdsm. No need to reopen that dialogue.

 

[MasterNico]

Well, I watched it with my 74 year old Mom yesterday. I really liked the movie, all things considered. Watching it with Mom was odd though. She kept saying "Those people are so weird!"

LOL I just smiled and kept my mouth shut. She has apparently forgotten the conversation where I came out to her about my interest in D/s and bdsm. No need to reopen that dialogue.

I've been out to my mother for a while, and she's really funny about it. She new I was busy for weeks planning our local BDSM convention, and just last night she asked how my "thingy" went, and kind of giggled. I'm lucky, she doesn't get it, but she gets me. I'm still her little boy.

 

[James G 5]

I've been out to my mother for a while, and she's really funny about it. She new I was busy for weeks planning our local BDSM convention, and just last night she asked how my "thingy" went, and kind of giggled. I'm lucky, she doesn't get it, but she gets me. I'm still her little boy.

I share a home with my family
They love me & don't ask questions when I accidentally leave my door open with a paddle or crop out, or when I hang up the Sadomasochism shirt in my AV on the clothes line

Only problem is my mom keeps stealing all my Enigma CD's
"Uh, mom, I need those back for my date tonight...."
"Why dear?"
"Well, this girl really likes me to beat her to them...."

 

[Desdemona]

Its pretty cool that our moms love us just as we are.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Its pretty cool that our moms love us just as we are.

My mom has passed away, but she did love me just as I was, she had to she raised me to be the way I am and she knew it. She would give me that "look at what I have done" look every now and then.

I miss her.

 

[slave naia]

Was a great movie!

Just wanted to put in my 2 cents!

 

[ammre]

I just saw this movie at the party i went to the other night... fan-friggin-tastic... as for the cutting thing.. well it may be how that sub was portraed but also to most people who know nothing and watch the film they'll probably also notice that the BDSM relationship is what got her to stop... it got her her own niiche and confidence in her world.. she didn't loose confidence when she entered into the relationship...
as for eating and movies alone... i like doing them alone... there's been times when i've perferred it... I hated how all my friends at school all had to wait arround for everyone else before going to eat as if something horrible was going to happen to them if they went alone.... really now.. you tend to shit alone... if you don't need someone there when it comes out why does someone have to be there when it goes in? heh... i like being autonimious and self confident enough to sit down and slop away
although.. i find whenever i'm with friends we always wind up getting food... which is amusing.

i want his orchids... i think their a metaphore.

 

[bunny bondage]

i want his orchids... i think their a metaphore.

the directior talks at length about how he wanted the office to be done all in earth-tones and have a natural feel. he wanted to give a friendly impression of bdsm, rather than the steel dungeon chains on the wall thing most people think of.