So, Lesbians, what's the deal?

[Marquis]

Yanno, I wasn't going to call you on it, but since you were so excited about using a gay term and that making you hip...honey...there's no 'on' in it. You just get cruised very often, you don't get cruised on. You're mixing it up with getting hit on.

It's okay, I still love ya.

WHAT!??

I feel such a fool.

 

[Marquis]

My ex was a lesbian I met here at lit. She never left her lover of 12 years and now they are closer than ever. We're still friends. Kind of hard now that she's on the other side of the world. I guess part of the initial attraction was the novelty of it.

I don't think I'd ever do it again. There are reasons why they prefer women over men. I don't know how many times I was told that I was acting like a man, like that's a cuss word.

Ha ha, this is so curious.

What's even more strange than you wanting to be with a lesbian is why a lesbian would want to be with you!

What was the story there?

 

[Marquis]

And to the OP Marquis, do you consider bisexuals as being gay / lesbian? Because, if you actually open up you're thinking to include this group I think you would realize that there is a large number of men and women who engage in homosexual contact in varying degrees out there. And I can assure you that you would not be able to use "gaydar" to detect most of them. The "gays" that you are detecting are simply the more flamboyant ones on the vast spectrum of human sexuality.

When I started this thread I was referring to committed lesbians, although I know (firsthand) that even the most hardcore dykes occasionally might indulge in dick. I wanted to learn about lesbian culture and also to a degree the psychology.

I agree with you about the gray area of bisexuality and I do imagine that that gray area may widen further and further in time.

Marquis,

My opinion why you see more gay men then women as you stated earlier you live in Fort Lauderdale which has a high gay male population. There is a section of the beach where gay men hang out. It isn't roped off but everyone knows that section is the gay beach. There are also many gay bars / clubs in your area too.

I too believe it is easier to spot a gay man then a gay women. If the 2 women are not kissing then most times I would never guess they are gay. Where most (not all so whoever reads this please do not attack me) gay men have a way about them where you can tell they are gay.

I have spotted gay women couples before, usually by their body language, but nowhere near as often as gay men. Are you suggesting that there are more gay men than gay women in Lauderdale? I know (all too well) that I live in a Mecca for gay culture, but that is precisely what I'm wondering.

 

[snowy ciara]

Ha ha, this is so curious.

What's even more strange than you wanting to be with a lesbian is why a lesbian would want to be with you!

What was the story there?

I'm not trying to answer for WD, but in my experience, it's because my attractions are frequently not related to gender. If you want to get all technical and silly about it, I'm bisexual. But if you want to get real, I'm sexual. I am attracted to people of all genders, and my attraction doesn't stop to look at sexual compatibility. If I were in WD's shoes, (a het male attracted to a lesbian female who was interested in return) I would have gone for it too. I don't act on my attractions if they're not returned (heck, I'm so shy irl that I don't act on most of my attractions when I know they are returned!) but if she seemed interested, I would go for it. Since WD isn't participating in Lit from jail and doesn't seem to be into non-consent, I'm assuming the lady was interested in him too.

 

[snowy ciara]

I have spotted gay women couples before, usually by their body language, but nowhere near as often as gay men. Are you suggesting that there are more gay men than gay women in Lauderdale? I know (all too well) that I live in a Mecca for gay culture, but that is precisely what I'm wondering.

I have no idea why, but up here in the land of snow and ice, when my gay male friends are talking about a vacation to the warm and sunny, Ft. Lauderdale is top on their list of possible destination. The gay females and trans females I know tend to go for the Virgin Islands (both US and British) if they can afford it and the Sappho cruises if they're on a budget. Me, I'm thinking Arizona for spring break if I can swing it, but that's more because it's warmer there than here and I have friends down there who'll lend me crash space.

 

[south_florida_bicur]

I have spotted gay women couples before, usually by their body language, but nowhere near as often as gay men. [BOLD]Are you suggesting that there are more gay men than gay women in Lauderdale?[/BOLD] I know (all too well) that I live in a Mecca for gay culture, but that is precisely what I'm wondering.

I've never been to a regular beach (not clothing optional) before where they had a gay section but Fort Lauderdale beach does have a gay section. My old hairdresser lives in Fort Lauderdale. Also, a waiter at one of my favorite restaurants told me that he lives in Wilton Manors (part of the Fort Lauderdale suburbs). Its just not only the 2 of them. During conversations they told me that their friends also live in their neighborhoods. Of course they are going to live close to a gay beach and gay hangouts (bars, clubs, restaurants, etc).

Putting the 2 together then YES I do believe you live in the Mecca for gay culture not like there is anything wrong with it

 

[Etoile]

I'm going to drag out the ol' "peoplesexual" again. Like snowy, I love based on love, not based on gender. So, yes, I could fall in love with a man someday. I won't rule out the possibility. However, based on how little I understand men and how well I understand women, the chances are infinitely small. To the point where I identify as a lesbian, sexually, politically, and culturally. I don't hate men, I just can't conceive of being close enough to fall in love with one.

 

[John Doe]

Butch/femme? Top/Bottom? Perhaps in some relationships - these have meaning, but in many they do not - perhaps in the majority they do not. It fits nicely into the hetero image that one partner must be the "dominant", but that isn't necessarily true when both partners are of the same sex. My partner and I are equals - we do as we will, when we will and to each other as we will.

It isn't necessarily true with opposite sex couples either.

What exactly do you mean by "hetero image"?

 

[CelestialNight]

Well I suppose what I would like to know about then is the culture.

I will summarize for you the entirety of my knowledge about the lesbionic sorority.

1. short hair

2. denim, flannel, leather

3. Ellen

4. often strong proponents of feminism

5. common to associate as a top or bottom, similar to gay relationships

6. scissoring?

7. moving in too fast

8. Rosie

1. short hair
-Yes, I do have short hair, but it's not because I'm a lesbian it's just because I don't like to take care of it.

2. denim, flannel, leather
-No way! Don't like flannel or leather. I wear denim jeans, but girly ones, mind you.

3. Ellen
-Her girlfriend is hot.

4. often strong proponents of feminism
-I guess I'm kind of like that...

5. common to associate as a top or bottom, similar to gay relationships
-I definitely don't do that. I don't associate with dom/sub, top/bottom, or butch/fem. I'm pretty feminine myself and I like girls who look like girls.

6. scissoring?
-What's that? Someone explain please...

7. moving in too fast
-I've never moved in with anyone in my life. Given I'm still pretty young, but that's not a step I would take too lightly.

8. Rosie
- One word. EEEWWW!!!!

 

[Wolfman1982]

I'm going to drag out the ol' "peoplesexual" again. Like snowy, I love based on love, not based on gender. So, yes, I could fall in love with a man someday. I won't rule out the possibility. However, based on how little I understand men and how well I understand women, the chances are infinitely small. To the point where I identify as a lesbian, sexually, politically, and culturally. I don't hate men, I just can't conceive of being close enough to fall in love with one.

*creeps up upon Etoile and says booh !* and hugs her, and then just gives her the warmth. And then silently walks away .

 

[kbate]

I'm going to drag out the ol' "peoplesexual" again. Like snowy, I love based on love, not based on gender. So, yes, I could fall in love with a man someday. I won't rule out the possibility. However, based on how little I understand men and how well I understand women, the chances are infinitely small. To the point where I identify as a lesbian, sexually, politically, and culturally. I don't hate men, I just can't conceive of being close enough to fall in love with one.

Blech.

I love my son though.

 

[Tymeless]

Blech.

I love my son though.

I'm sure he is a doll baby

 

[WriterDom]

Ha ha, this is so curious.

What's even more strange than you wanting to be with a lesbian is why a lesbian would want to be with you!

What was the story there?

She came in this forum starting a thread about wanting to suck cock. Then in the bdsm forum about wanting a master. So I sent her a message and within a week we were talking on the phone. It wasn't that I was on the prowl for lesbians or anything.

 

[Marquis]

She came in this forum starting a thread about wanting to suck cock. Then in the bdsm forum about wanting a master. So I sent her a message and within a week we were talking on the phone. It wasn't that I was on the prowl for lesbians or anything.

Ahhh, gotcha.

And yes, I can see the appeal.

 

[Never]

Well I suppose what I would like to know about then is the culture.

I will summarize for you the entirety of my knowledge about the lesbionic sorority.

1. short hair

2. denim, flannel, leather

3. Ellen

4. often strong proponents of feminism

5. common to associate as a top or bottom, similar to gay relationships

6. scissoring?

7. moving in too fast

8. Rosie

1. My hair is long.
2. I have a leather jacket. No denim (not even jeans) and only flannel sheets.
3. I thought she was okay at stand-up, but her show never made me laugh.
4. Yes.
5. Few that I've met.
6. What?
7. Never done that.
8. I liked her more before she came out.

 

[Never]

6. scissoring?
-What's that? Someone explain please...

http://www.lesbiansplayroom.com/pgal07/041/horny_lesbos_licking/images/Zafiraxxa07_horny_lesbos_licking_12.jpg

 

[kbate]

It isn't necessarily true with opposite sex couples either.

What exactly do you mean by "hetero image"?

The standard good old right wing republican image of the proper American Family - one male who works, one female who stays home with the kids, Dinner on the table when he comes home. The male who lays down the law for the family.

Many of these terms come partly from our (homosexuals) innate desire to fit into a semblance of the patterns with which we were indoctrinated - the "dominant male" family. Even as we rail against the norms and standards in our speech and hearts - we seek acceptance by the straights - and take labels that fit the perceptions of standard roles created by the society we live in.

Perhaps, this does not explain it fully or rightly, but it explains what I think of such labels.

 

[Never]

Never underestimate the human desire to be normal. Even among those who should know how bullshit normal can be.

 

[Etoile]

Nice to see what appear to be natural boobs, even if they don't appear to be natural lesbians. (Why is gay for pay allowed for women and stigmatized for men?)

I you Never

 

[Never]

I you Never

Arigato gozaimasu.

 

[Marquis]

Arigato gozaimasu.

Nigongo ga dekimasu ka?

 

[John Doe]

The standard good old right wing republican image of the proper American Family - one male who works, one female who stays home with the kids, Dinner on the table when he comes home. The male who lays down the law for the family.

Many of these terms come partly from our (homosexuals) innate desire to fit into a semblance of the patterns with which we were indoctrinated - the "dominant male" family. Even as we rail against the norms and standards in our speech and hearts - we seek acceptance by the straights - and take labels that fit the perceptions of standard roles created by the society we live in.

Perhaps, this does not explain it fully or rightly, but it explains what I think of such labels.

You were indoctrinated with this idea? Did you grow up in the 50s or something?

A lot of straight people don't even believe that tripe anymore.

 

[kbate]

You were indoctrinated with this idea? Did you grow up in the 50s or something?

A lot of straight people don't even believe that tripe anymore.

We may call it tripe, but my parents were born and reared in the 50s in exactly that type of family. I was reared in the tradition of their parents. That a lot of people do not believe this - does not discount the power of the thousands that do - and in our desire to "fit" and become accepted - we take on roles simulating the societal norms of our times.

Is that bad? No. But it does lead to bad outfits and ugly haircuts.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Nigongo ga dekimasu ka?

don´t you mean

Nihongo ga dekimasu ka ?

http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/doyouspeak.htm

 

[LaFemmeNicole]

Hook-up service??

So what exactly are you advertising here? A hookup service for couples to find a woman to have sex with?

Well if you want to call it a hook-up service I don't mind but not a hook-up service for couples. And before you put your foot in your mouth again I'll tell you that I'm not a call girl or prostitute, I am not soliciting money or any thing else. I do what I do because I enjoy it and I harm no one. How dare you take my sincerity for some type of commerical enterprise. Keep your physiological bullshit thoughts to your self, I'm not into that.