The Georgia Indictments Thread

[butters]

perhaps this is why DA Willis didn't go ahead with indicting graham:

The report showed that 13 of the 21 grand jurors voted in favour of Mr Graham being indicted alongside other alleged conspirators for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and Washington, DC.

However, seven grand jurors voted not to charge Mr Graham and one abstained.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=90f67cc8157a4c0596756238925890bf&ei=196

 

[adrina]

https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...orgia-to-federal-court-in-big-win-for-willis/

Judge rejects Meadows effort to move election case from Georgia to federal court in big win for Willis​

A federal judge has rejected former Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows’s attempt to move his charges in the Georgia election interference case to federal court. The ruling was a broad rejection of arguments from Meadows that his case should be heard in federal court because he was acting in his capacity as chief of staff at the time.


It marks a major victory for Fulton County, Ga., District Attorney Fani Willis (D), who has pushed back on the attempt by Meadows and multiple other defendants to move their charges out of state court.


In a 49-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Steve Jones ruled that many of the allegations were instead political activities outside of the scope of Meadows’s job. “Even under the ‘quite low’ bar for federal officer removal, the Court concludes that Meadows has not met his burden to show that his criminal prosecution can be removed under the federal officer removal statute,” Jones ruled.

 

[Lazaran]

https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...orgia-to-federal-court-in-big-win-for-willis/

Judge rejects Meadows effort to move election case from Georgia to federal court in big win for Willis​

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I was waiting for someone to post this so I didn’t double post.

This news is going to come as quite a shock to our resident RWCJ "lawyers" who assured us that the Meadows case being moved to Federal court was inevitable, and that it would be the downfall of Fani Willis’ entire prosecution.

Oops.

 

[KeithD]

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I was waiting for someone to post this so I didn’t double post.

This news is going to come as quite a shock to our resident RWCJ "lawyers" who assured us that the Meadows case being moved to Federal court was inevitable, and that it would be the downfall of Fani Willis’ entire prosecution.

Oops.

Well, in contrast to most of the ridiculous shit the Trumpette lawyers have come up with to slow Trump's swirl down the drain into the garbage disposal, this ploy by Meadows was at least arguable.

 

[coati]

Fani Willis and E.Jean Carroll understand how to deal with privileged men.

 

[LLCox]

it's one of the reasons derpy's been so yappy... he seems to see himself as a real life legal person yet his posts here would beggar that. of course, the unqualified have often got themselves some certificate or other from equally unqualified or unscrupulous purveyors

He's a trump U grad.

 

[Bray123]

I've always said, Arpys a paralegal at best.

I had him down as the oldest intern in town.

 

[stxjimmy]

I've always said, Arpys a paralegal at best.

I doubt very much he is a lawyer, but paradoxically I don’t think he’s a worse lawyer than Eastwood, Giuliani or Powell.

 

[Dribble]

Well, in contrast to most of the ridiculous shit the Trumpette lawyers have come up with to slow Trump's swirl down the drain into the garbage disposal, this ploy by Meadows was at least arguable.

Arguable...but not winnable. To be winnable he would have to show he was using his position in official capacity that fulfilled the capacity of the role of the position. Chief of Staff of the President...the President represents the Country as a whole...therefore so does his Chief of Staff. When the line of serving Donald Trump supercedes serving the President of the United States...those protections become null and void. Our "lawyers" should have understood this simple concept

 

[LLCox]

Russians... again

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-viol...rtPos=0&cx_experienceId=EXC93HV4HK4I#cxrecs_s

 

[Lazaran]

Russians... again

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-viol...rtPos=0&cx_experienceId=EXC93HV4HK4I#cxrecs_s

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President Biden has a not so subtle response to Russia’s online attacks on democracy.

See:

The recently delivered cluster munitions, and the soon to be delivered F-16s and ATACMS to Ukraine.

Also:

Ukraine’s recent advances in drone capabilities are obviously the product of collaboration with the US and NATO.

If Russia wants to keep fucking around, then Russia will keep finding out.

*nods*

 

[jaF0]

Speaking of we'll see .....


U.S. Politics

Fake Electors 'Perfectly' Positioned to Flip on Donald Trump: Kirschner​

"Many of these fake electors have already gone on record as saying, 'We were acting at Donald Trump's direction,'" Kirschner said on Sunday.

 

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Speaking with MSNBC host Katie Phang about the three dozen unindicted co-conspirators listed in Friday's Georgia grand jury report, Kirschner noted that they may have not been part of the 19-defendant RICO indictment -- which included the former president -- already in progress, but they could see themselves hauled into court at a later date.

And I have every expectation that we will see a second wave of indictments in Washington, D.C. of those, thus far, unindicted co-conspirators."

"So it could be that [Fulton County District Attorney] Fani Willis is not yet done indicting people in Georgia," he added.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=0fd2a5bddb32420d874a9513fce73658&ei=87

 

[butters]

After a district judge last week resoundingly rejected Mark Meadows’ arguments to remove his Georgia racketeering (RICO) case to federal court, the former White House chief of staff for then-President Donald Trump filed an “emergency” motion Monday seeking to put the ruling on hold pending the outcome of an appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit.

“Absent a stay, the State will continue seeking to try Meadows 42 days from now on October 23, 2023,” the lawyers wrote. “If the State gets its way, Meadows could be forced to go to trial—and could be convicted and incarcerated—before the standard timeline for a federal appeal would play out.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...16a22f64f29545f89347d5bff239dac1&ei=9#image=1

 

[jaF0]

Aww, boo-hoo.

 

[butters]

judge grants meadows an expedited hearing, giving DA Willis 24 hours to respond

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...08c24d842c7440159530598ca7be43ef&ei=5#image=1

 

[LincolnDuncan]

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Big old attention whore, that is or what is.

 

[zipman]

Arguable...but not winnable. To be winnable he would have to show he was using his position in official capacity that fulfilled the capacity of the role of the position. Chief of Staff of the President...the President represents the Country as a whole...therefore so does his Chief of Staff. When the line of serving Donald Trump supercedes serving the President of the United States...those protections become null and void. Our "lawyers" should have understood this simple concept

It wasn't close to being winnable. That's one of the key reasons for the Hatch act.

 

[jaF0]

None of what any of them did was anywhere near close to being within their official capacities. It was all campaign related. They were acting on behalf of a candidate, not a government official.

 

[butters]

DA Willis argues against delay in meadows' trial

But Willis argued that Jones had been careful in his 49-page ruling and that Meadows hadn't articulated his federal job duties "at all."

"The defendant has not made a 'strong showing' that he is likely to succeed on the merits," Willis wrote. "Far from making a strong showing that he is likely to succeed on the merits in his appeal, the defendant has not actually made any showing."

Willis also said Meadows couldn't show he would suffer irreparable harm from the state case proceeding because a verdict could take months to reach and he's asked for an expedited review by the appeals court. She argued it wouldn't be in the public interest to delay his state trial.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=88a867ab3bff453aa2d3d033f09f948d&ei=143

 

[butters]

Judge Steve Jones denies meadows' bid to stay trial

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...790ba51263c442ead69b46b31f03593&ei=10#image=1

Judge Steve Jones said in his order Tuesday that Meadows "failed to show a stay should be granted."

Meadows still has a separate, pending motion for emergency stay with the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. No ruling has come down from that court, which has ordered briefings from both parties.

 

[butters]

"There is nothing in the summary of arguments he plans to raise in his challenge to the denial of removal to convince this Court that its decision was incorrect," Jones wrote. "Thus, Meadows has shown no likelihood of prevailing on the merits of his appeal."

"Meadows has not shown he is entitled to an emergency stay," the judge concluded.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=8706f8f1d5554c78db48ebbf2b505399&ei=22

 

[butters]

"The State is capable of trying large and complex cases,' D.A Willis wrote, indicating her preparedness to go for Oct.23rd, argues not trying all the defendants together would stretch the court too thinly, allow for 'judicial traffic jams' and a constant repetition of the same evidence.

Prosecutors estimated a trial for all 19 co-defendants would last four months and feature 150 witnesses − not counting jury selection, which could be lengthy. The trial could hinder Trump's campaign.

Willis said other defendants could demand speedy trials after the start of the one for Chesebro and Powell, causing a judicial traffic jam of witnesses and victims in multiple cases reciting the same testimony and evidence repeatedly.

Willis said the Fulton County Superior Court can handle large cases, as demonstrated by an Atlanta Public Schools case that began with 35 defendants and tried 13. But breaking up the cases "would create an enormous strain on the judicial resources" of the court.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=7858eaeadd9d4ef08a6ff155282d3582&ei=12

 

[butters]

Judge decides to sever the remaining 17 cases from chesebro's and powell's, though any defendant not waiving their speedy trial rights by Oct.23 would automatically join those two at trial.

In a blow to prosecutors, Judge Scott McAfee said severing the remaining 17 defendants was "a procedural and logistical inevitability," and did not rule out the possibility that "additional divisions" may be required later.

also:

Chesebro, as part of his defense, had filed a motion asking the DA to disclose the identities of the 30 unindicted co-conspirators referenced in the indictment, and prosecutors told McAfee at a hearing Thursday that they would do so.

The names will be shared with defense under a protective order, so they will not be made public.

so chesebro will know the names; will he be able to keep his mouth shut if trump comes a'knockin'? at least it narrows down the sources of potential witness tampering.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=09012aa9ed814a72aaef0c215ef06ef3&ei=31

updated:

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has agreed to shared the names of 30 unindicted co-conspirators with former President Donald Trump and his co-defendants in the Georgia election racketeering case, The Messenger reported on Thursday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=cac91249fd73483aca7cf7fbb630be19&ei=179

 

[Rotadom]

'Malignant' Trump Torched By His Former Attorney Who Is Predicted To Flip

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lawyer-donald-trump-not-vote-2024_n_65041afce4b09404e9bfe743

The former president's one-time lawyer explained why she “simply can’t support him for elected office again."