The quality sucks. No one cares.

[BobbyBrandt]

Maybe I missed something. Who has Euphony attacked?

I don't recall Euphony claiming to have attacked anyone.

As I recall, the reason stated for using different names was to avoid getting stories 1-bombed by someone taking offense to posts in the forums.

That simply means that judging the person's validity as a writer by checking to see how many stories they have posted under their forum name isn't reliable.

 

[StillStunned]

I think we're overlooking an obvious and simple solution: everyone should only read ny stories. That way they're guaranteed to be of excellent quality.*

*For a given definition of quality, which is "I personally like them".

 

[Altissimus]

I think we're overlooking an obvious and simple solution: everyone should only read ny stories. That way they're guaranteed to be of excellent quality.*

*For a given definition of quality, which is "I personally like them".

Would you please change your profile tag line? I keep getting stuck on your posts and not scrolling on with the page because I expect more to be imminently added.

 

[MelissaBaby]

I don't recall Euphony claiming to have attacked anyone.

As I recall, the reason stated for using different names was to avoid getting stories 1-bombed by someone taking offense to posts in the forums.

That simply means that judging the person's validity as a writer by checking to see how many stories they have posted under their forum name isn't reliable.

You might want to rephrase your post then, it gave the opposite impression.

 

[RejectReality]

And judging anyone's experience by their number of forum posts/join date is equally short-sighted.

 

[alohadave]

What a lot of effort to go to to be a dick.

The amount of effort some people will expend to be an asshole knows no bounds.

I think it's a hobby for some of them.

 

[Altissimus]

I took a minute and looked at the posters prior posts seeing there's not many. They posted quite a bit in a thread about BTB and the what is femdom agitprop thread. A lot of their posts seem to align with a lot of what I say here, calling out certain types of stories for breaking 'rules' and having issues with hate being seen here as a kink.

Going by the fact they have similar issues with the site that I do, and the "rape apologists' comment which was a lot more specific than just saying the site sucks, I'm going to guess they ran into one-or a few- stories that shouldn't be here and were probably poorly written on top of it. They've obviously had enough of Lit's two faced BS when it comes to content and it spilled over.

They then removed it because they know all they'll get is denial from the apologists and suck ups.

But if they come back they can take solace that I'll carry that torch for as long as I'm here and ignore the lies, hypocrisy and enabling of the topic.

Well, "Most of the shit here is absolute shit" which - leaving aside its tautological self-evidence - seems to me to be the only true statement the OP made.

To go from there to "they knew all they'll get is denial from the apologists and suck ups" seems a bit of an overreaction.

I must've missed the 'rape apologist' debate - whatever that drama-free fun-and-games must've been - but come on, LC, all the 'lies, hyporcisy' and 'Lit's two-faced BS'? You sound like that rotund fellow who would like to be the next president instead of spending the same number of years in jail.

 

[Euphony]

Maybe I missed something. Who has Euphony attacked?

If you figure it out, do tell. I'm clueless.

I'm on pins and needles and it's killing me.

 

[Euphony]

As did Escierto in this thread, and others in the past in previous threads have admitted to having multiple personas on LitE. Those other accounts allow them to separate the negative reactions to one post or story from other posts or other types of stories.

It's like having dissociative personality disorder.

Feels like quite a jump to a conclusion.

I own two cars.

Clearly it's for double the vehicular homicides.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Didn't Euphony admit to this very action in a recent thread?

I am going to assume that you used her example as someone who maybe has a separate account (?) to post stories, which is probably a good idea, one I almost wish I used myself. Other than that, your post makes no sense since I've never seen her flame or attack anyone on the forum nor have I seen anyone link a flaming comment from her. More than that, one can always post any comment as anonymous so using a different account for that also doesn't make any sense.

 

[MrPixel]

She removed her own original post; hence, she herself didn't think her opinion was valid.

Typical troll behavior. Set the place on fire, disappear, then try to cover their tracks. Didn't work this time because of the quoting.

Guys, we've been getting trolled badly in the past couple of weeks. If you see something like the above (now gone), use the ignore feature immediately and be done with them. They're not looking for reasoned responses, they're vandals looking to start fights and damage what we have together.

...MrPixel, once a moderator on a big forum.

 

[SimonDoom]

Typical troll behavior. Set the place on fire, disappear, then try to cover their tracks. Didn't work this time because of the quoting.

Guys, we've been getting trolled badly in the past couple of weeks. If you see something like the above (now gone), use the ignore feature immediately and be done with them. They're not looking for reasoned responses, they're vandals looking to start fights and damage what we have together.

...MrPixel, once a moderator on a big forum.

I don't use the ignore feature because I like to see everything that's being posted, but declining to respond is definitely an option. If the post is nasty enough, so is reporting it.

The Site is clear that it doesn't allow certain behavior here:

"No personal attacks or trolling. Heated discussions are fine, even welcome. However, personally attacking / kink-shaming a fellow author or reader is not allowed within the Author's Hangout."

If I see a post that I think crosses this line, I report it. There's no good reason to tolerate that sort of content here. It's not a matter of free speech. One can fully express one's opinion on stories and story-related subjects without getting nasty and personal toward fellow authors.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Feels like quite a jump to a conclusion.

I own two cars.

Clearly it's for double the vehicular homicides.

Some of the earlier posts here rejected the concept that there are haters 1-bombing a particular author and chalked up their perceived downrating of their stories as paranoia. I tried to point out my own experience with times and stats suggesting the point. Then we had one post weighing in validating that is exactly what the poster is doing!

Now we have posts focusing on a sentence fragment and blowing it out of proportion, seeming to believe that the accusation is all secondary accounts are for hating, taking offense where possibly none was intended. But isn't jumping to conclusions also somewhat negative?

There are various reasons for authors using alt-IDs, and some of those reasons are legitimate concerns for producing a more positive reader experience.

Are you an author with published stories here on LitE? If so, then what is your reason for using a non-published account for posts?


"What we've got here is a failure to communicate." (and this from supposed writers?)

 

[Sparky74]

Of course Lit is full of crap. It's got a million stories on it and a very, very low bar for entry. It's free to access (funny how often that gets overlooked), free to post, and doesn't even require an account to read.

It's also got a bunch of amazingly-well written stories that, for some reason (gasp! Shock!), not everyone likes.

It also has some absolute gems. Some stories that are a delight to read, some that are thought-provoking, arousing, powerful, original... thinking back on some of the stuff I know is on here I could continue with superlatives for quite some time.

And it's amazing that those stories are free to access.a

I rather doubt OP has found a better experience on any other story site than is offered here on Lit. Because there isn't one. I know, I've looked. I've got accounts on several others.

Absolutely well said personally I love Lit and enjoy Thread interactions as well.

And even for some of us it can be a place of healing and comfort.

 

[KeithD]

I don't really care about the quality level of stories overall here or posters' opinions about that. I concentrate on the quality of my own stories and in maintaining a supportive readership--which I get here and which justifies me posting my stories here.

 

[Sparky74]

I don't really care about the quality level of stories overall here or posters' opinions about that. I concentrate on the quality of my own stories and in maintaining a supportive readership--which I get here and which justifies me posting my stories here.

Well said and that's exactly the point and as long as your happy and your readers are happy

 

[Lifestyle66]

Well said and that's exactly the point and as long as your happy and your readers are happy

Oh, my GOD! How could you say that??? And without punctuation!!!

 

[Sparky74]

I don't particularly care really but thanks for highlighting my disability issues, cheers.

 

[Euphony]

Some of the earlier posts here rejected the concept that there are haters 1-bombing a particular author and chalked up their perceived downrating of their stories as paranoia. I tried to point out my own experience with times and stats suggesting the point. Then we had one post weighing in validating that is exactly what the poster is doing!

What has me in stitches is, not so much a clear misunderstanding, but how OPPOSITE this whole thing really was.

I'm more a probabilities person and the OP getting rando bombed seemed low probability. LS66, though, I've seen them take trolling BS from the AH for no reason so I saw that as total probability difference. Apples and oranges.

As the H seemed to matter, I *tried* to suss out what may have gotten hit and blind 5 up voted on those stories. (it's almost never I do that but I've posted I think the vote system struggles to represent quality and/or is abused/flawed in allowing a weapon for AH trolls to use on authors.)

So, my "split personality" self 5 bombed the 3 stories linked on LS66's profile thinking "maybe theses? low hanging troll fruit maybe?" It was a best guess given limited information.

Now we have posts focusing on a sentence fragment and blowing it out of proportion, seeming to believe that the accusation is all secondary accounts are for hating, taking offense where possibly none was intended. But isn't jumping to conclusions also somewhat negative?

That's the exact conclusion I drew, though admittedly you invoking my name probably introduced bias so I'll let others weigh in on how it read.

There are various reasons for authors using alt-IDs, and some of those reasons are legitimate concerns for producing a more positive reader experience.

Are you an author with published stories here on LitE? If so, then what is your reason for using a non-published account for posts?

• Harassment
• Unwanted sexual advances
• Outside relationships where your hobby could prove detrimental
• Reader pacification/funneling (some love you for X and only X. You even dip a toe into Y, they lose their shit, like you were married and lied to them)
• Too many more to list due to where I'm at right now (others will surely fill in many of the gaps)

We tend to think of others experience based on our own experiences but that's folly. Count your blessings, MANY of us aren't nearly so lucky. Nor even lucky as me.

"What we've got here is a failure to communicate." (and this from supposed writers?)

Why the extra dig? Now I can't *prove* it's a parting shot/get the last word in but there's enough there the conclusion could be jumped to. Jokes even in the area of writing ability have too low a risk/reward with a bevy of fellow writers. You can be right. They can even be legitimately classified as oversensitive. Still not worth it. It still breaks out into all sorts of unnecessary hell.

I try to keep to a middle path here. (and be viewed as doing so) I falter a bunch but, overall think I do a decent job at it. Apparently I still have more work to do.

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

I think the quality's pretty good, personally, but maybe I'm just good at judging books by their covers

We have covers, where are the covers? I've never seen a cover. Should I be making covers?

But seriously, If I don't get interested in a story by half a lit page, I move on. I don't jump to the end give a bad vote and leave a nasty comment.

 

[KeithD]

Oh, my GOD! How could you say that??? And without punctuation!!!

Is this a good place to point out that today is National Punctuation Day?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=natio...c=10-24&cvid=3e4854fdbef64b4d9d93fb3cb6d39b8f

 

[Sparky74]

Is this a good place to point out that today is National Punctuation Day?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=natio...c=10-24&cvid=3e4854fdbef64b4d9d93fb3cb6d39b8f

Again as I say I don't really care if and when I right a story I will use tools to help me.

 

[Lifestyle66]

So, my "split personality" self 5 bombed the 3 stories linked on LS66's profile thinking "maybe theses? low hanging troll fruit maybe?" It was a best guess given limited information.

Thank you for thinking of me and trying to right a wrong. But it wasn't you're wrong to right. Even the haters have their reasons for hating me, regardless of what we might think of those reasons.

I would much rather you try reading my stories and providing you own thoughtful and honest rating and opinion of them.

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

I think I'm more thin skinned that others on here. Hateful comments, even hateful comments that have a point, bother me. I'm not the kind that gets a kick when they attack me because hate is a valid response to what I wrote. I can't go that far.

 

[Euphony]

Thank you for thinking of me and trying to right a wrong. But it wasn't you're wrong to right. Even the haters have their reasons for hating me, regardless of what we might think of those reasons.

I would much rather you try reading my stories and providing you own thoughtful and honest rating and opinion of them.

Fair. It was 1AM. Too exhausted to read. I'd seen you take unwarranted BS on the AH so it rang true and I offset likely BS.