The quality sucks. No one cares.

[Lifestyle66]

I think I'm more thin skinned that others on here. Hateful comments, even hateful comments that have a point, bother me. I'm not the kind that gets a kick when they attack me because hate is a valid response to what I wrote. I can't go that far.

I've learned that MOST people behave and react due to legitimate reasons from their pasts. It may not even be due to something they remember, but sometimes from traumatic events buried in their minds and possibly buried to maintain their own sanity.

I remember my father once talking to me about his experiences in WWII. It was decades later when he first mentioned (as a 19-year-old) being near a doctor when a wounded soldier was brought in for triage. The guy was screaming in pain, holding his guts in from a bayonet wound, and the doctor threw a wet towel against my dad, saying "Hold onto him and don't let go until a doctor tells you." He used my dad as a human pressure bandage, as they laid the two of them on a stretcher. It was thirty minutes later that another doctor rolled the dead soldier off my dad, with my dad saying to me "I saw his guts spilling out."

My dad held that bottled in for decades. We can only imagine how that affected everything he thought or did after that. EDIT: That story of my dad's was from the beaches of Iwo Jima on the second day of the invasion.

I've learned to be far more accepting and tolerant of others, even in their anger and hate.

 

[MelissaBaby]

Thank you for thinking of me and trying to right a wrong. But it wasn't you're wrong to right. Even the haters have their reasons for hating me, regardless of what we might think of those reasons.

I would much rather you try reading my stories and providing you own thoughtful and honest rating and opinion of them.

Hoisted on your own petard, bub.

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

I've learned that MOST people behave and react due to legitimate reasons from their pasts. It may not even be due to something they remember, but sometimes from traumatic events buried in their minds and possibly buried to maintain their own sanity.

I remember my father once talking to me about his experiences in WWII. It was decades later when he first mentioned (as a 19-year-old) being near a doctor when a wounded soldier was brought in for triage. The guy was screaming in pain, holding his guts in from a bayonet wound, and the doctor threw a wet towel against my dad, saying "Hold onto him and don't let go until a doctor tells you." He used my dad as a human pressure bandage, as they laid the two of them on a stretcher. It was thirty minutes later that another doctor rolled the dead soldier off my dad, with my dad saying to me "I saw his guts spilling out."

My dad held that bottled in for decades. We can only imagine how that affected everything he thought or did after that. EDIT: That story of my dad's was from the beaches of Iwo Jima on the second day of the invasion.

I've learned to be far more accepting and tolerant of others, even in their anger and hate.

I get what your saying I really do. I'm not having a good day. First thing today, I went to email and saw I had feedback. I read the feedback made a reply, then got confused as to the day, and put a PS in the reply that I shouldn't be answering this today, as it Yom Kippur, and hit send. Then it dawned on me it begins today at sundown. Oy vey, I'm such a ditz. Now I don't know if I send a correction or just leave it looking like I don't know my fest from fast.

 

[MelissaBaby]

We have covers, where are the covers? I've never seen a cover. Should I be making covers?

((Yes. You can make "covers" for your series, but I still haven't figured out where anyone sees them.))

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

((Yes. You can make "covers" for your series, but I still haven't figured out where anyone sees them.))

I use them at Amazon, Smashwords, and BookApy. I don't see where we can post one. Maybe inside the story, but that'll drive up the data file.

 

[MelissaBaby]

I get what your saying I really do. I'm not having a good day. First thing today, I went to email and saw I had feedback. I read the feedback made a reply, then got confused as to the day, and put a PS in the reply that I shouldn't be answering this today, as it Yom Kippur, and hit send. Then it dawned on me it begins today at sundown. Oy vey, I'm such a ditz. Now I don't know if I send a correction or just leave it looking like I don't know my fest from fast.

So, tonight you atone.

 

[Bamagan]

((Yes. You can make "covers" for your series, but I still haven't figured out where anyone sees them.))

They're displayed on the series page. Not especially prominently, and not a page that most readers will go to very often since they can navigate the series without visiting it.

 

[RejectReality]

((Yes. You can make "covers" for your series, but I still haven't figured out where anyone sees them.))

They're currently available whenever anyone clicks to the full series listing, along with all the other additional information you can enter on the series page.

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

So, tonight you atone.

YUP! Well, sometime tomorrow maybe. And no, we don't kill animals anymore as sacrifices.

 

[Bamagan]

So, tonight you atone.

Here's your Mary and Alvin page.
Cover is visible to me.

 

[MelissaBaby]

I use them at Amazon, Smashwords, and BookApy. I don't see where we can post one. Maybe inside the story, but that'll drive up the data file.

On your author's page, go to Series (Beta), then click the settings icon on the series you want to edit.

 

[SimonDoom]

So you're essentially suggesting that freedom of speech only matters until one is offended. Hmm... and who determines what qualifies as a personal attack? Can I express my honest opinion about finding someone's writing unappealing or shallow without it being labeled as a personal insult? Can I say that some of your opinions are downright stupid? Can I openly discuss how some content promotes misogyny, racism, or chauvinism, even if it's masked as something else, without being accused of trolling?

Isn't the harsh truth inherently personal?

Some believe this place belongs to them due to seniority, but it doesn't.

This place primarily operates as a business. While there may be documented guidelines, they can adapt to the demands of the business. If someone's contributions generate significant traffic, the rules might become more flexible for them, and they may receive special treatment and protection.

If you feel the need to report any of this, please go ahead.

No, the harsh truth is NOT inherently personal. You miss the point completely.

You should be free to criticize story content, or criticize the way stories are written. If you feel that certain kinds of stories promote harmful beliefs or actions, you should be free to say that.

But there's a huge difference between THAT and saying:

This site is full of perverts.
This site is a sick place.
Anybody who writes what I dislike is a bad person.

Or calling people derogatory names or personally attacking an individual author.

Or dropping nasty remarks at individuals or groups of forum contributors for the obvious purpose of simply getting an unpleasant reaction.

Any of that kind of talk is unnecessary to express a legitimate substantive point. I see no reason for the Site to put up with people who want to ignite flame throwers as opposed to engaging in legitimate dialogue with fellow authors.

I don't think it's that difficult to tell the difference. There's nothing in your post, for example, that's worthy of being reported or deleted.

If you think an author has offered a stupid opinion and you say so and explain why, there's nothing wrong with that. But if you call another author "stupid," that's a different story. You can fully make your point without calling another author names. You can attack the point being made without attacking the person.

 

[MelissaBaby]

Thanks for the Series page info, guys. I didn't even know that was there!

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

On your author's page, go to Series (Beta), then click the settings icon on the series you want to edit.

Oh, I have a cover on my series. I don't think it'll be active till the second story comes out on 10/2.

 

[SimonDoom]

So you're essentially suggesting that freedom of speech only matters until one is offended. Hmm... and who determines what qualifies as a personal attack? Can I express my honest opinion about finding someone's writing unappealing or shallow without it being labeled as a personal insult? Can I say that some of your opinions are downright stupid? Can I openly discuss how some content promotes misogyny, racism, or chauvinism, even if it's masked as something else, without being accused of trolling?

Isn't the harsh truth inherently personal?

Some believe this place belongs to them due to seniority, but it doesn't.

This place primarily operates as a business. While there may be documented guidelines, they can adapt to the demands of the business. If someone's contributions generate significant traffic, the rules might become more flexible for them, and they may receive special treatment and protection.

If you feel the need to report any of this, please go ahead.

I'll give you an additional example. Somebody recently wrote in a post that this forum is full of people with room-temperature IQs. What legitimate purpose does that serve? Does it express a point about writing or stories? No.

It's obviously, factually false. Room temperature is 72 degrees Fahrenheit. Nobody in this forum has an IQ of that number. It's obvious that the average IQ in this forum is well above average, and that there are many highly intelligent and educated people who contribute to this forum. They may be wrong sometimes, but they're not stupid. No point whatsoever is served in telling people, either individually or as a class, that they are stupid or immoral. A key purpose of this Site is to provide a haven and forum for people with a wide diversity of erotic interests. Tolerating insults, attacks, and trolling undermines that purpose.

 

[gunhilltrain]

As evidenced in other threads with "authors" admitting to having multiple usernames here on LitE, the fact the OP doesn't have any stories published does not equate to the person not posting stories.

Some have admitted to using other non-publishing usernames to allow them to post in the forums and attack other authors with negative comments, without the risk of their own stories receiving retribution.

What more can I add to this thread? All right, I can't worry about what other people are writing here, because I can't write for them. I can only write my own stories (and sometimes essays). I am on a couple of other sites using different usernames, not because I am "hiding," but because I want to try out different audiences and the different rules those sites have.

After five years of this, I am satisfied and I usually have new stuff in the works. Sometimes those seems good, sometimes the quality is disappointing. I think I'm getting better, but that's my opinion. That's all I can ask for. What others post here and how they vote and comment is beyond my control.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Bla

Blah? I'll let her bio speak for itself.

https://forum.literotica.com/members/angelrider.5813402/#about

And she gives her location as "Hell." I have no further comments at this time.

 

[SimonDoom]

In no scenario can I tell you that your writing is subpar without you taking offense.

No. I would never take personal offense if you told me this. Many have told me this, and I never get offended. Find an example to the contrary. You cannot.

The reality is that harsh truths are sometimes conveyed with harsh words, exaggerated maybe, but harsh nevertheless.

You are perfectly free to say "harsh" things to another author like, "I think your stories promote misogynism." That's harsh, but fair, if you really believe it, if you are prepared to defend it, and if you aren't just trying to troll somebody or get under their skin. But you can get that point across without telling someone, "I think you as a person are [misogynistic/evil/stupid]." There's literally NEVER a good reason in this particular forum to talk that way to fellow authors, and such comments can, and in my opinion should be, banned, without in any way impairing your ability fully and fairly to express your point of view. Comments like that serve no useful purpose and very quickly lower the quality of dialogue in this forum to a point that most authors get disgusted and disenchanted.

You recently claimed that you are against any form of censorship in literature. Pedophilia, necrophilia, rape – as far as you're concerned, everything is acceptable, but heaven forbid if someone calls you an old fart. This is utterly absurd!

I disagree. There is a clear principled distinction between saying on the one hand that the widest range of story content should be allowed, but that personal attacks should be regulated. It's apples and oranges. I wouldn't begrudge someone the right to express the viewpoint in a story that sex is bad and that all forms of sex should be banned. I would want to have the right to speak out against that view point and tell the author that this is a bad and foolish point of view. But I don't claim the right in this forum to call the author a "fool." That's something different. As for "old fart" -- my kids have said similar things, so I'm past being insulted by things like that.

 

[SimonDoom]

The tyrannical queen banned me once more and deleted all my posts. In anticipation of this, I've created additional accounts. Here's my original post for reference, which I will continue to post because no one will ever silence me!

This seems like a dialogue of the deaf. No matter how you attempt to twist and turn it, you're essentially implying that whenever someone isn't nice to you, they are attacking you. The reality is that harsh truths are sometimes conveyed with harsh words, perhaps exaggerated, but harsh nevertheless. In no scenario can I tell you that your writing is subpar without you taking offense. There's no scenario where I can honestly tell someone that I think they exhibit misogynistic, racist, or psychopathic tendencies without them interpreting it as a searing insult because, let's face it, no sane person would readily admit to such characteristics.

There's an unchanged truth in human dynamics: If I like you whatever you say is legit and if I don't like you it's an attack.

Of course, it's crucial that things be said in the right context without hurling insults just for the sake of it, but some will still exploit the concept of a "personal attack" to silence others.

You recently claimed that you are against any form of censorship in literature. Pedophilia, necrophilia, rape – as far as you're concerned, everything is acceptable, but heaven forbid if someone calls you an old fart. This is utterly absurd!

To be clear, I didn't report your comments or ask for you to be deleted. I thought your comments were wrong, particularly with regard to the assumptions you were making about me and what I believe, but not delete-worthy.

I'll say it again, and I would invite you to respond in a non-caustic and non-personal way: You have complete freedom to make your point without calling people names (e.g., "tyrannical queen") and attacking people personally. That's where the Site draws the line. It's actually a very easy line to navigate.

 

[KeithD]

I view crystal clear as a simple truth. But unfortunately, we aren't allowed to speak the truth. Trust me,

Sorry, but I call out fingering moderation here as a "tyrannical queen" to be bullshit. Not a "simple truth" in the least. So, you lost me at that point.

 

[SimonDoom]

There, right there, what you perceive as a personal attack, I view crystal clear as a simple truth. But unfortunately, we aren't allowed to speak the truth. Trust me, I have far more critical things to say (like manipulating ratings for contests, for example). Calling her a "Tyrannical Queen" is a compliment by comparison.

Check this link and tell you don't see the bitter irony.

https://literotica.com/resources/free-speech-advocacy#:~:text=Freedom of Speech,targets to silence.

I see no irony at all.

Literotica is not a state. Laurel is not a sovereign. Legally speaking, free speech is not an issue here, because the First Amendment regulates what the state does, not what Literotica does. This is a voluntary organization and if you want to be here you have to abide by certain rules, including rules that require you to "Play nice" with others. if you don't know any way to engage with people other than to insult them and call them names, then in my view the Site is right to ban you. We don't need that around here. When you communicate in that way, you don't add anything.

There are plenty of people in this forum, including myself, many times, who have criticized the Site for the way it has done things. I have questioned content rules, criticized the consistency of its application of rules, criticized various site features, made numerous requests for improvements of this or that, but I've never found it necessary to call the Site owner, or anyone else, names.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Everyone has a slightly (at the very least slightly) different view of reality. It's based on the view from where you are sitting (and everything which has happened to you in the past).

It's like the often-raised issue of ratings and whether giving a story a 4 is good or bad. Those who believe they deserve a 5 have stated here in the forums that if you are going to give their story a 4, then you shouldn't rate it!

LOL. One of my latest stories started out with the usual 1-bombers and by the time I first checked hours after it went public it was at 1.84!

That which one person might see as garbage might be another person's feast.

 

[StillStunned]

Would you please change your profile tag line? I keep getting stuck on your posts and not scrolling on with the page because I expect more to be imminently added.

Hang on...

 

[DrabD]

BANNED - ToS VIOLATION:
Literotica is a diverse open-minded kink-positive community dedicated to the exploration of a wide range adult fantasies in fiction. We support artists’ First Amendment right to create freely. We also acknowledge publishers’ First Amendment right to create a community accommodating to their specific members. Again - the First Amendment which protects authors' freedom to create also protects a publisher's right to moderate and curate their privately run space. Thank you for understanding.

 

[NoTalentHack]

Dime to a donut, if you trace this back to its original source, it's LW. Easily half of the "all the stories suck now" posts over the years have been either cuck/hotwife/RAAC or BTB readers pissed off that they still haven't chased all of the opposing authors out of the category yet.

Got it in one. AngelRider is a regular (and to be fair, usually intelligent and evenhanded) commenter in LW. Her bugaboos tend to be poor writing, excessive revenge, unwarranted forgiveness, and violence, at least in my experience.